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Wintry February 19-21, 2020 Winter Storm

We see your reports, and honestly, some of it is petty and overdone. (There's been a lot the last couple of days). Play nice, please. With that said..

Sometime between/after now and 00z tonight, we will be removing posts that clutter up this discussion thread. Staff off-topic posts included. We will not be trying to move them throughout different threads. We will press the delete button because first, it's easier, secondly, the amount of posts will be out of control.

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Call maps, oddly, go here because Jimmy wanted to make a thread for it: https://southernwx.com/community/threads/february-20-21-jimmy-deluxe-call-maps.688/#post-246760
 
going to be heartbreaking here in clt i believe. warm nose will be just too tough to overcome and we will waste a ton of qpf on rain. changeover around 4pm or so but then the bulk of the precip will be gone. will be shocked to see more than a dusting at best. warm nose strikes again, brutal.
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The short range models look to be coming into agreement and showing very similar solutions. I think it is just hard to disregard the consistency with them.
 
Wow, the SREFs are going hammer time, especially in the run that came out. I don’t put much stock in them, but it never hurts to have more guidance onboard for warning criteria snowfall.
SREF is usually a good presumption to how the NAM will possibly look. So the NAM may look even better or colder here in a few minutes.
 
Wow, the SREFs are going hammer time, especially in the run that came out. I don’t put much stock in them, but it never hurts to have more guidance onboard for warning criteria snowfall.
Its nice to see the SREFs are probably not as far north as the NAM. Maybe just maybe one time the warm nose is slightly overdone?
 
going to be heartbreaking here in clt i believe. warm nose will be just too tough to overcome and we will waste a ton of qpf on rain. changeover around 4pm or so but then the bulk of the precip will be gone. will be shocked to see more than a dusting at best. warm nose strikes again, brutal.
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I’m sorry this is a little silly .. Charlotte will get their fair share easily 2-3 inches I would say with that wrap around moisture and if the warm nose isn’t as strong as modeled or rates are higher than expected( usually happens) then I could see those numbers easily going up for that area


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I’m sorry this is a little silly .. Charlotte will get their fair share easily 2-3 inches I would say with that wrap around moisture and if the warm nose isn’t as strong as modeled or rates are higher than expected( usually happens) then I could see those numbers easily going up for that area


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i have seen the nam show warm noses time and time again for winter storms and 99.99% of the time it is never overdone. will not be near enough qpf to put down 1-2" much less 2-3 after the warm nose erodes.
 
We see your reports, and honestly, some of it is petty and overdone. (There's been a lot the last couple of days). Play nice, please. With that said..

Sometime between/after now and 00z tonight, we will be removing posts that clutter up this discussion thread. Staff off-topic posts included. We will not be trying to move them throughout different threads. We will press the delete button because first, it's easier, secondly, the amount of posts will be out of control.

Observations of the event go here, instead of making a separate thread. We chose this method because people barely use the correct threads anyway, and we'd not enjoy merging all the observations into this thread later.

Complaints about the storm, how your weight scale just broke, or how many birds spoke to you today, go here:
https://southernwx.com/community/threads/winter-whamby-2020-a-new-decade.669/page-215#post-246759

Call maps, oddly, go here because Jimmy wanted to make a thread for it: https://southernwx.com/community/threads/february-20-21-jimmy-deluxe-call-maps.688/#post-246760
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I normally just observe and soak in the knowledge here but I have a question - I read that temps in the Midwest are around 3 degrees colder than what nam/gfs shows. Is this true/important? Thanks for your input.
 
I’m sorry this is a little silly .. Charlotte will get their fair share easily 2-3 inches I would say with that wrap around moisture and if the warm nose isn’t as strong as modeled or rates are higher than expected( usually happens) then I could see those numbers easily going up for that area


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just look how at the difference in the warm nose for rdu in one run.

nam hr 47 00z
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nam hr 41 06z.
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Wow, the SREFs are going hammer time, especially in the run that came out. I don’t put much stock in them, but it never hurts to have more guidance onboard for warning criteria snowfall.

I think tv mets in general put alot of faith in them. If they keep going up, watch the call maps go further up today. GSP will probably up their forecast as well. In fact I wouldn't be surprised that just because of that a WWA will go up for Charlotte around lunch time.
 
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