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Pattern Fabulous February

If these strong highs keep dropping into the Plains, there WILL be a SE winter storm at some point, given how active the pattern has been and continues to be. It happens 3 times over the next 8 days, according to the FV-3. The result ends up being a well-timed event:

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Rain Cold said:
If these strong highs keep dropping into the Plains, there WILL be a SE winter storm at some point, given how active the pattern has been and continues to be. It happens 3 times over the next 8 days, according to the FV-3. The result ends up being a well-timed event:

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Looks like another rain-fest in SC. Maybe later on we'll land one.
On a more serious note, it does seem things have trended for the better the past few runs, which is very encouraging to see.
 
Rain Cold said:
If these strong highs keep dropping into the Plains, there WILL be a SE winter storm at some point, given how active the pattern has been and continues to be. It happens 3 times over the next 8 days, according to the FV-3. The result ends up being a well-timed event:

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yeah, one of these gotta do something, decently positioned trough with this once aswell, when the oscillations improve the threat of SE wintry weather would improve a whole lot, but at the very least a in-situ cad with Onset ice changing to rain seems very possible
 
Let's just hope these trends continue, some hope is better than no hope and if over the next few days the rug gets pulled out from under us again..... well we're running out of time at that point. However, given all indicators I am cautiously optimistic about a strong finish to Feb/Winter.

Models have been hinting at those strong highs dropping down for some time now, so I'd at least give that some credence
 
Rain Cold said:
If these strong highs keep dropping into the Plains, there WILL be a SE winter storm at some point, given how active the pattern has been and continues to be. It happens 3 times over the next 8 days, according to the FV-3. The result ends up being a well-timed event:

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Yeah, that looks like a doozie for NC. Now if only the Euro ends up showing the same thing and it was inside 7 days at least.
 
So, check out the evolution of the FV-3 over the last 4 days' worth of runs. Things were looking pretty bleak. Granted, nothing is set in stone, and this all may go to pot tonight. But it shows how much (read "how little") faith we should have in these models in fantasy land. Even 10 days is pushing it. But I think you'll like the evolution, here, which isn't surprising, given that we're moving away from the significant stall in the warm phases with the MJO. These maps are all valid for 12z 2/15 (240 hours from the latest run):

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And that one sort of looks like the late Euro panels we've been seeing recently. It feels like we're generally moving in the right direction here, folks.
 
Kylo said:
Big MA/NE snow day 7-8 on Euro. Snowpack

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That is a really legit point. I remember @Webberweather53 really hammering on that last winter. If we get the kind of pattern where we are, in fact, seeing highs drop into the plains along with an active southern stream, then marginal events may end up being much more likely to be wintry, given the efficiency of cold air transport.
 
tennessee storm said:
that model has been so terrible... its unreal... by far worst....imo
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The FV3 has actually been pretty good inside 6 days. Someone posted 5h verification scores awhile back and it was right there with the Euro and far better than the CMC/GFS. For my neck of the woods at least it has been excellent.
 
GaWx said:
Meanwhile, the 12Z King is a "hot" mess in more ways than one. Ugly maps and much warmer than the 0Z.
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Yep. Euro was a big crap salad. Hiccup? Not entirely surprised though as I think last 10 days of February is where it’s at. If anywhere at all..?
 
snowlover91 said:
The FV3 has actually been pretty good inside 6 days. Someone posted 5h verification scores awhile back and it was right there with the Euro and far better than the CMC/GFS. For my neck of the woods at least it has been excellent.
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snowlover91 said:
Only 7 days out and makes sense given the cold/dry airmass that will be in place as this moves in.

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And it seems really gun ho about the 12th to 14th. If we can just get it to hold onto this look for a couple more days.
 
We shall see if old JB is right. He has been saying over a week that its not over and the models are wrong. Before the bashing starts lets see how he ends up
 
GaWx said:
Wow at the 12Z EPS cross polar flow/strong -EPO in the 11-15! Much better looking than the 0Z in that regard.
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It seems the OP run was just a funky run then, good to hear we still have a shot per the EPS. The FV3 has been pretty persistent with a colder look starting around the 11-12th CAD event... maybe a late February rally to save winter. It only takes one good storm.
 
snowlover91 said:
It seems the OP run was just a funky run then, good to hear we still have a shot per the EPS. The FV3 has been pretty persistent with a colder look starting around the 11-12th CAD event... maybe a late February rally to save winter. It only takes one good storm.
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Yeah, I think the Op was clunky and funky. What happens is it looks like you have that little goober near the GOA (A) that knocks down the ridging to the east. And it leaves too much junk in the trunk (B) out west, instead of unloading it fully out into the Pacific, like previous runs, which would allow it to help pump the west coast ridge. It needs to pinch that mess off, and we'll be back to a good look.

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The FV-3 is sort of mesmerizing in it's depiction of high pressure after high pressure moving into the plains with an active STJ. It's not really showing any big dogs, but there are more than a couple of threats. Like I said earlier, if we keep seeing highs there and an active STJ, we're going to be money.
 
If this Fv3 storm ends up happening I don’t want to hear any ifs ands or butttsss about it. It will be the superior model alongside the euro in my eyes. Been seeing this thing for weeks and people wrote it off quicker than can be. This is the new American model we should be treating it more so like it than the old Gfs... old Gfs we’ve had some good memories but ... I’m officially tossing you
 
Brick Tamland said:
Wow, only 6 days away, too. Might be time to cash in. I really do think there is something to having winter storms in NC a week after we warm up into the 70s, and looks like this is a legit threat
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Nick_boynton_ said:
If this Fv3 storm ends up happening I don’t want to hear any ifs ands or butttsss about it. It will be the superior model alongside the euro in my eyes. Been seeing this thing for weeks and people wrote it off quicker than can be. This is the new American model we should be treating it more so like it than the old Gfs... old Gfs we’ve had some good memories but ... I’m officially tossing you
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Lol I don’t even think I’ve had any good memories with the gfs ? it sucks and let’s see if the 70 degree thing comes true again
 
Nick_boynton_ said:
If this Fv3 storm ends up happening I don’t want to hear any ifs ands or butttsss about it. It will be the superior model alongside the euro in my eyes. Been seeing this thing for weeks and people wrote it off quicker than can be. This is the new American model we should be treating it more so like it than the old Gfs... old Gfs we’ve had some good memories but ... I’m officially tossing you
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Yes, it has been consistently showing a storm threat for this time period for a while. It did really well with the December storm this far out, too.
 
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