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Pattern Fab-February 2020 The dark age

Nomanslandva said:
Ok, so look at the 1002 isobar line and how elongated it is. To me it is ripples of low pressure withing a broader area. So, it didn't move SW, it developed a new center there. But that's if you believe the GFS:) We would be better off with a more tightly wrapped up low.
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Thank you so much
 
Eerily similar GFS runs as what we had a few weeks ago. Honestly not sure what to expect.


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The Euro looked way better this run.
It actually looked even more interesting with energy that strengthens over AZ. Hopefully ensembles should be interesting.
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Wow euro at the end of the run had a beautiful positive PNA and an outstanding -NAO which are both being supported by its ensemble members ... good lord I love to see the trends .. soon euro will be spitting out fantasy’s
 
Nick_boynton_ said:
Wow euro at the end of the run had a beautiful positive PNA and an outstanding -NAO which are both being supported by its ensemble members ... good lord I love to see the trends .. soon euro will be spitting out fantasy’s
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I'm really struggling to find anything beautiful or outstanding about this image. This looks pretty meh and mediocre all the way around. I'm not 100% sure this would even qualify as a +PNA....maybe. But I certainly can't find an outstanding -NAO.

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Webberweather53 said:
To have access to both the UKMET & European w/ sounding data is hard to resist and you simply won't find that anywhere else.
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The only other source of the raw #s/sounding we had was Accuweather Pro back in the day... outside of nice NWS/Pro Forecaster members that would post some for us.

I asked Ryan Maue about adding the raw data, and he thought there wasn't much interest in it..

So Pivotal... yeah.. it's good stuff to have that upper level data. Hopefully they'll have a lot for like 9.99 a month or something like that.
 
Rain Cold said:
I'm really struggling to find anything beautiful or outstanding about this image. This looks pretty meh and mediocre all the way around. I'm not 100% sure this would even qualify as a +PNA....maybe. But I certainly can't find an outstanding -NAO.

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The Euro's PNA forecast is dead neutral at day 10 although it's had a non-negligible -PNA bias especially in the extended.

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Rain Cold said:
I'm really struggling to find anything beautiful or outstanding about this image. This looks pretty meh and mediocre all the way around. I'm not 100% sure this would even qualify as a +PNA....maybe. But I certainly can't find an outstanding -NAO.

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I agree 100%. I don't see any support for anything going forward but more of the same. Average temps and active STJ. Getting anything at all will be a miracle in this pattern. Just no real cold air.
 
Snowless & Grumpy said:
I agree 100%. I don't see any support for anything going forward but more of the same. Average temps and active STJ. Getting anything at all will be a miracle in this pattern. Just no real cold air.
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Yeah no amount of wishcasting can beat that pac jet. Multiple opportunities for the mountains at least and maybe NC and certainly TN. For the rest of us, it’s getting close to calling it a season barring anything extraordinary.


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ATLwxfan said:
Yeah no amount of wishcasting can beat that pac jet. Multiple opportunities for the mountains at least and maybe NC and certainly TN. For the rest of us, it’s getting close to calling it a season barring anything extraordinary.


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It is far too early to make that call. It is difficult to have a clue as to how the pattern will be past about 2 weeks.
 
850s ok all the way to I85 but BL too warm. 1010 low is not going to do it. AT least ICON and GFS looked a little more organised this run. 1580141373987.png
 

is this not a -NAO ???
 

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Rain Cold said:
I'm really struggling to find anything beautiful or outstanding about this image. This looks pretty meh and mediocre all the way around. I'm not 100% sure this would even qualify as a +PNA....maybe. But I certainly can't find an outstanding -NAO.

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Look at the 500 mb height anomaly you’ll find it
 
Gfs in line with the euro on a big -NAO setting up .. that system dropping in from the west is going to look very interesting on models in the coming days
 

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A few inches of modeled snow with temps crashing into the mid twenties inside day ten

What could possibly go wrong
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Wow congrats coastal areas this run! Was close to something huge for all of the south east but dang I love to see that look at around 240 .. lots of cold air in play per the Gfs .. so take with 800 grains of salt
 
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