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Pattern December Discussion

Storm5 link said:
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If someone can post the qpf from euro for my area in arkansas,i would appreciate it for this wknds event. Thanks.
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Storm, sorry i meant to say sat-mon event for my area. I think its 6-12hr increments precip/ frozen
 
Tarheel1 link said:
6z GFS say Christmas torch is legit and Jammin January ain't starting off to great either!
In all fairness, GFS has ATL in the 50's on Xmas. That's not quite a torch. But yeah 32 and snow would be he great!


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Don't look for January to start out jamming as pattern reshuffles Pv  start head more north ... Torch some just after Xmas appears possible early January  . Next best time possible  fie winter stirm threats appear mid late January .. Hopefully we're dealt a better hand    Pattern now is just way to damn progressive
 
Womp...
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Tarheel1 link said:
6z GFS say Christmas torch is legit and Jammin January ain't starting off to great either!
06z gfs was at or just below normal for most of the region on Christmas

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Webberweather53 link said:
HM, my favorite met on the planet . if I could spend one day with someone in the weather world it would be him hands down

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Storm5 link said:
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Womp...
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HM, my favorite met on the planet . if I could spend one day with someone in the weather world it would be him hands down

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Yeah, he's definitely at the top of my list as well
 
Mrgolf link said:
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[quote author=Mrgolf link=topic=2.msg1974#msg1974 date=1481721117]
If someone can post the qpf from euro for my area in arkansas,i would appreciate it for this wknds event. Thanks.
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Storm, sorry i meant to say sat-mon event for my area. I think its 6-12hr increments precip/ frozen
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Not Storm, but here is snow map per 0Z Euro for Sat-Mon your area:
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Christmas is 11 days away and anyone expecting the GFS to even have a clue about that time frame better think again. Hell the GFS can't even get in the ballpark on the Saturday temps. Lol.
 
Storm5 link said:
[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=2.msg1970#msg1970 date=1481718095]
6z GFS say Christmas torch is legit and Jammin January ain't starting off to great either!
06z gfs was at or just below normal for most of the region on Christmas

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I think the warm temps this weekend are overblown. Clouds and wedge probably keep it around 60


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ATLWxFan link said:
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[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=2.msg1970#msg1970 date=1481718095]
6z GFS say Christmas torch is legit and Jammin January ain't starting off to great either!
06z gfs was at or just below normal for most of the region on Christmas

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right around average

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Here comes our little bowling ball - let's see where he goes
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Supershow link said:
Here comes our little bowling ball - let's see where he goes
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to chicago... there is no northern stream.

at least we get more rain many areas still need it

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It doesn't look like a torch is as likely to me on Christmas but we're still too far out to tell.

What looks likely is "ho hum weather", just around normal temperatures, and no precip.

The thing is that'd be an improvement from last Christmas. It was in the low-mid 70s and nearly flooded where I was at on Christmas...and I wasn't in Florida. I wasn't even in Augusta. I was in Northwest Georgia, where normal weather is high 40s to low 50s in December.
 
So when does the front loading begin? Is January still the front of winter!? This is so frustrating
 
Supershow link said:
Christmas storm still there
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But that's the 27th and a frontal passage
 
Tarheel1 link said:
[quote author=Supershow link=topic=2.msg2025#msg2025 date=1481735861]
Christmas storm still there
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But that's the 27th and a frontal passage
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Yes..way out there and better than what has been shown this run in front of it
 
Tarheel1 link said:
So when does the front loading begin? Is January still the front of winter!? This is so frustrating
we are only 13 days into winter. the first half of January is considered to be in the first half of winter

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Tarheel1 link said:
So when does the front loading begin? Is January still the front of winter!? This is so frustrating


we are below normal and may just finish December below normal. Sounds like its been front loaded to me
 
Tarheel1 link said:
So when does the front loading begin? Is January still the front of winter!? This is so frustrating

For the most part, yes. Using data going back to 1896, the mean & median date for winter storms across North Carolina is January 26-27th, granted this climatological peak usually shifts earlier in January during La Ninas & into February during El Ninos
 
Storm5 link said:
brent there are some nice gefs members for you out in Texas next week

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That's interesting because most of the op runs have been a disaster since they started hyping lol
 
SD link said:
[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=2.msg2026#msg2026 date=1481735868]
So when does the front loading begin? Is January still the front of winter!? This is so frustrating


we are below normal and may just finish December below normal. Sounds like its been front loaded to me
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to add to this , most of NC Will be 15-20 degrees below normal Friday

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Brent, I am considering moving to the Dallas area very soon and was wondering if you could give me information on what winters are like there. I'm guessing I wouldn't have to worry about the SE ridge as much. Also, it seems like TX  is usually in a more favorable location for wintry weather than GA and it seems like in general the weather there is more changeable and interesting. Also, what about humidity in summer. Is it more tolerable than in the southeast ?
 
SD link said:
[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=2.msg2026#msg2026 date=1481735868]
So when does the front loading begin? Is January still the front of winter!? This is so frustrating


we are below normal and may just finish December below normal. Sounds like its been front loaded to me
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This may turn out to be one of the suckyest front loadings ever.  -1 departure for the front loaded win!
 
Rain Cold link said:
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[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=2.msg2026#msg2026 date=1481735868]
So when does the front loading begin? Is January still the front of winter!? This is so frustrating


we are below normal and may just finish December below normal. Sounds like its been front loaded to me
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This may turn out to be one of the suckyest front loadings ever.  -1 departure for the front loaded win!
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Depends I guess. If we pile up a bunch of snow in January then the narrative would become "remember those cold blasts in December before all the snow in January". I would much rather have what we are having versus a +60 December like last year
 
Is there any chance that Dec ends up being our coldest winter month?  My biggest worry is that the pattern flips and Jan and Feb end up mild.
 
SD link said:
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[quote author=SD link=topic=2.msg2031#msg2031 date=1481737709]
[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=2.msg2026#msg2026 date=1481735868]
So when does the front loading begin? Is January still the front of winter!? This is so frustrating


we are below normal and may just finish December below normal. Sounds like its been front loaded to me
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This may turn out to be one of the suckyest front loadings ever.  -1 departure for the front loaded win!
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Depends I guess. If we pile up a bunch of snow in January then the narrative would become "remember those cold blasts in December before all the snow in January". I would much rather have what we are having versus a +60 December like last year
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I'm with you there!  We get some good snow the first half of Jan, then the December cold shots will have set the table, so to speak.  But if we torch in Jan and get shut out, then a -1 or -2 departure in December will have been slightly anticlimactic.  Either way, it IS better than last year, like you said.

BTW, you definitely win best avatar!  Who is that?
 
Rain Cold link said:
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[quote author=Rain Cold link=topic=2.msg2044#msg2044 date=1481740408]
[quote author=SD link=topic=2.msg2031#msg2031 date=1481737709]
[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=2.msg2026#msg2026 date=1481735868]
So when does the front loading begin? Is January still the front of winter!? This is so frustrating


we are below normal and may just finish December below normal. Sounds like its been front loaded to me
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This may turn out to be one of the suckyest front loadings ever.  -1 departure for the front loaded win!
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Depends I guess. If we pile up a bunch of snow in January then the narrative would become "remember those cold blasts in December before all the snow in January". I would much rather have what we are having versus a +60 December like last year
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I'm with you there!  We get some good snow the first half of Jan, then the December cold shots will have set the table, so to speak.  But if we torch in Jan and get shut out, then a -1 or -2 departure in December will have been slightly anticlimactic.  Either way, it IS better than last year, like you said.
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I did get a little excited about the GFS trying to show some coastal lows toward the end of its run.....just sayin..


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SD link said:
[quote author=Rain Cold link=topic=2.msg2048#msg2048 date=1481740935]
[quote author=SD link=topic=2.msg2045#msg2045 date=1481740616]
[quote author=Rain Cold link=topic=2.msg2044#msg2044 date=1481740408]
[quote author=SD link=topic=2.msg2031#msg2031 date=1481737709]
[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=2.msg2026#msg2026 date=1481735868]
So when does the front loading begin? Is January still the front of winter!? This is so frustrating


we are below normal and may just finish December below normal. Sounds like its been front loaded to me
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This may turn out to be one of the suckyest front loadings ever.  -1 departure for the front loaded win!
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Depends I guess. If we pile up a bunch of snow in January then the narrative would become "remember those cold blasts in December before all the snow in January". I would much rather have what we are having versus a +60 December like last year
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I'm with you there!  We get some good snow the first half of Jan, then the December cold shots will have set the table, so to speak.  But if we torch in Jan and get shut out, then a -1 or -2 departure in December will have been slightly anticlimactic.  Either way, it IS better than last year, like you said.
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I did get a little excited about the GFS trying to show some coastal lows toward the end of its run.....just sayin..


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Nice!

Don't get sucked in!
 
SoutheastRidge link said:
Brent, I am considering moving to the Dallas area very soon and was wondering if you could give me information on what winters are like there. I'm guessing I wouldn't have to worry about the SE ridge as much. Also, it seems like TX  is usually in a more favorable location for wintry weather than GA and it seems like in general the weather there is more changeable and interesting. Also, what about humidity in summer. Is it more tolerable than in the southeast ?

Honestly I hate half the year here. Summer drags on entirely too long Lol. It is more of a dry heat but its still hot. At night it can stay in the 80s. It can hit 100 in april and october and usually does it at least 20 or 30 times a summer. Spring and fall can be eventful but also can just be more summer. Winters are hit and miss like I've said before historically it really isn't any better than Atlanta is. We get more ice than snow here usually if it does come down to it. It also is not uncommon to be 75 for a week in the winter. We are more prone to extreme temperature drops but that doesn't equal snow. If I was moving somewhere for snow I'd move elsewhere that's for sure.
 
God the long range looks boring. Can't even get a fantasy snow storm
 
Well at first glance I did happen to notice that the GFS has started to pop some fantasy coastal lows in the 200-240 range. Given there is no HP up north but still encouraging I guess..
 
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