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Wintry Dec 8-10th Winter Storm

Another interesting thing is, that in almost every winter storm here in the carolinas, especially cads, lighter precip arrives sometimes as early as 6 hours than forecasted, wonder if that's going to happen
 
I see how this is going to play out. HP is late getting into a favorable position east of the mountains. Late cold push (although strong). Favored areas NW of I85 go from rain to snow to IP (end as rain). Cold push unable to make it further south. Those areas stay rain for the duration. If you’re on the fringe now, it’s going to rain. A lot. I’m sorry. We can hope for something on the backend but that’s as good as it’s going to get
 
If you are in SC, our side of Greenville, Spartanburg, pickens, and oconee, you are going to see a cold rain while those counties mentioned sees several inches of Snow/Sleet. This looks to be a classic I85 and north special.

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Really hope your right
 
ICON looks better although it looks like it goes from heavy wet snow to sleet and zr west of 85 in nc, has a pretty stout wedge
 
I see how this is going to play out. HP is late getting into a favorable position east of the mountains. Late cold push (although strong). Favored areas NW of I85 go from rain to snow to IP (end as rain). Cold push unable to make it further south. Those areas stay rain for the duration. If you’re on the fringe now, it’s going to rain. A lot. I’m sorry. We can hope for something on the backend but that’s as good as it’s going to get

eh, the NAM loves to overamp systems at this range as Rain Cold mentioned. If it has this same look tomorrow into Friday I'll throw in the towel and expect some IP mixed in with a cold rain (no pun intended!) here.
 
12z icon has tended little colder, there is a backend and very close to frozen stuff for MS/AL just couple more degrees colder than could be a suprise. So far 12z suits are colder, now on to the outliner gfs
 
I'll take improvement anywhere I can get it.... this is improved over the 6z
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12z icon has tended little colder, there is a backend and very close to frozen stuff for MS/AL just couple more degrees colder than could be a suprise. So far 12z suits are colder, now on to the outliner gfs

Only way this works is if this closes off . Otherwise it’s cold light rain
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Only way this works is if this closes off . Otherwise it’s cold light rain
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When you say only way this works, what areas are you referring to.

This is what's confusing for people. No one knows what areas people are referring too.

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For RDU to have a significant snow/sleet accumulation Sunday high temperatures will need to be colder than currently forecast. Most of the models show the snow/sleet changing over to all rain above freezing by mid-afternoon. ICON is much colder than GFS (with a high near 33). If temperatures remain about 33-36 degrees instead of 38-40, we may see snow longer or perhaps a period of sleet.
 
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