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Rain Cold said:
I said this on another political forum, but it's 50/50 IMO that both Sanders and Biden make it to the convention. I know that sounds bad, but it's going to be hard for them to not be exposed, given all of the travel and campaigning. And Sanders has heart issues
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Yeah I’ve been thinking about our political leaders. No matter which side of the political spectrum a person is, last thing we want to see is a chunk of them become fatally ill with this stuff. Iran supposedly has lost some key leaders already and people like Trump, Sanders, Biden, etc would all be high risk. In addition the Supreme Court has people like Ginsburg that would be high risk too.
 
Webberweather53 said:
I remember taking significant flak for saying something like this a few weeks ago & urging people not to immediately assume warmer weather will significantly hinder the CoV-19 andddd lo & behold...

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“End” and “disappear” are very different than saying warmer temperatures can slow down and decrease the overall rate of spread. I agreed back when this was a topic of discussion that saying it would make the coronavirus disappear or stop it completely was incorrect.
 
Jon said:
“End” and “disappear” are very different than saying warmer temperatures can slow down and decrease the overall rate of spread. I agreed back when this was a topic of discussion that saying it would make the coronavirus disappear or stop it completely was incorrect.
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Hearing that an outbreak may be underway in Egypt. What's their climate like this time of year? I seriously don't know...I assume it's warm.
 
Rain Cold said:
Hearing that an outbreak may be underway in Egypt. What's their climate like this time of year? I seriously don't know...I assume it's warm.
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The Southern Hemisphere still has flu seasons. For instance, Brazil’s start of their flu season is one month away..so you would expect their cases to continue to grow through the summer months.

What has yet to be seen is if Coronavirus cases continue to grow at a rapid pace through all of summer into winter here in the CONUS. If so, it will change conventional thinking about virus behavior in the medical community for decades to come.


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Jon said:
“End” and “disappear” are very different than saying warmer temperatures can slow down and decrease the overall rate of spread. I agreed back when this was a topic of discussion that saying it would make the coronavirus disappear or stop it completely was incorrect.
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The takeaway in that tweet is that there’s still no substantial evidence that warmer temperatures are going to “significantly” slow the rate of spread of CoV-19 especially to the point where it basically dies off. I think it’ll be too little too late in any case for the US because the outbreak is well underway here. If the virus relents, which I think it very well could, we will probably see that some time in the summer & that’ll largely be due to a decreasing number of potential non-infected hosts and preventive measures that are already beginning to occur, with more significant ones probably forthcoming (shutting down businesses, travel, etc, etc.) and not due to warmer temps. There’s definitely concern that another outbreak will come knocking this fall and it remains to be seen how virulent said outbreak may be.
 
All the numbers are useless right now because it's still happening and the virus hasn't run its course in most cases that are known. I don't think most people understand the magnitude of even 1 percent dying if a majority of the world gets this. Forget about understanding what 50 percent in the hospital and 20 in ICU means.
 
Rain Cold said:
Hearing that an outbreak may be underway in Egypt. What's their climate like this time of year? I seriously don't know...I assume it's warm.
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Cairo is forecast to be in well into the 80s tomorrow and potentially thru Wednesday of this coming week before cooling off slightly late in the week. Their temp climo in March is similar to ours in April. Very curious to see how the virus spreads there the next several weeks
 
Webberweather53 said:
The takeaway in that tweet is that there’s still no substantial evidence that warmer temperatures are going to “significantly” slow the rate of spread of CoV-19 especially to the point where it basically dies off. I think it’ll be too little too late in any case for the US because the outbreak is well underway here. If the virus relents, which I think it very well could, we will probably see that some time in the summer & that’ll largely be due to a decreasing number of potential non-infected hosts and preventive measures that are already beginning to occur, with more significant ones probably forthcoming (shutting down businesses, travel, etc, etc.) and not due to warmer temps. There’s definitely concern that another outbreak will come knocking this fall and it remains to be seen how virulent said outbreak may be.
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Well it could be both. Warmer temps mean people go outside more, spend less time indoors touching everything and coughing all over each other, too. Even if the virus can still circulate in warmer temps doesn’t mean it’s doing so at a significant pace, it may still be a bit hindered. But hoping it will disappear is most likely false hope.

Yeah I agree I don’t think it will die off, it will definitely pick back up by fall and by then we’d really need a vaccine. We’re likely to have two preventative vaccines for flu seasons to come, which is wild. I just am not so sure it will be ready and mass produced. We just went through a shortage in the pharmacy for the senior flu shot, it was backordered for months even though there was high demand...hundreds of thousands of seniors had to get the regular flu shot, which put them at risk this year.

I’m deeply concerned about next season, what’s happening now and the rate at which it’s spreading is concerning...but come fall if there’s not a suitable vaccine, very large numbers of elderly will be at risk. I hope the more virulent strain can be contained to China and that the mild strain is the one we are seeing globally. If not, we should prepare for the worst come next fall. There will be vaccine constraints, just hope it doesn’t lead to panic.

To put it in perspective, we just placed our flu shot orders. GSK and other companies are already producing them for the 2020-21 season, and the strains were already decided on.


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Heelyes said:
A majority off all the people in charge of everything are in the high risk group. It's ironic the people that are not doing what needs to be done are most likely to suffer the consequences
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I think some labs around this country have promising experimental stuff, and if needed the big dogs could probably get it. It's not ready for the masses yet.
 
Heelyes said:
All the numbers are useless right now because it's still happening and the virus hasn't run its course in most cases that are known. I don't think most people understand the magnitude of even 1 percent dying if a majority of the world gets this. Forget about understanding what 50 percent in the hospital and 20 in ICU means.
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Not necessarily. Based on what I've read, it takes weeks to test negative for the virus, not weeks to recover. Also SK has less than a 1% In ICU atm.
 
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