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Antibiotics don't do anything for viruses. The fact people still think they do is why antibiotics continue to be overused by people so we have antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria.

I made reference to this a couple of days ago.
 
Agree and you've been making this point for days now.... the mortality rate is most likely skewed high because there is a very good probability that it is far more widespread then we currently have data. I think many people panic when they think about how widespread it may already be, but on the flip side of that, it would mean the mortality rate is much less. Obviously that would be a good thing

Now we have two big data points, Italy and the cruise ship. Both show asymptomatic cases are atleast 60% and that is probably still too low. If that is the case with our healthcare, general health, the CDCs reluctance to test and then the amount of mild cold to flu like cases, this is likley spreading across the US like wildfire unnoticed. For instance all 6 of us had the flu last year(the twins wasn't here yet) only my younger daughter was offcially diagnosed because she got it last and was the youngest(although she made a mockery of the flu and made us look like wimps)

Knowing that and how most people just stay home. It could be everywhere. I think as we learn more about it, we can learn how to keep this thing from impacting our elders.
 
2017 for me. I am contracting since training their SF and police. Mostly CQB. I also still do some work up in NAS Oceana with DEVGRU black squadron. There is opportunity there when I get home but would require a move back which my wife wouldnt be thrilled about. She sacrificed enough so this is prob. my farewell party. Much respect for PJ's! Those guys are bad ass.....

I try to stay out of VB as much as possible. Living an hour away makes it possible. The only time I go up there is to Oceana commissary and Lynnhaven Mall.
 
If they release all into at once it would be a freaking nightmare around some areas. This could be the 4th turning good book
 
Also a problem are people stopping antibiotics prematurely. I am not 100% sure, but I believe it's been a long time since we've developed any new antibiotics.

Yeah, anytime you get antibiotics to take you have to go through the full course of them even if you are feeling better.

One of the first stories I looked up mentioned that as of 2017, in the past 30 years, any antibiotics that have come out have only been based on previous versions. There were 51 in the pipeline but only a few weren't based of existing classes of them. Main thing is that it's easy to find compounds that will kill bacteria, but not so easy to find ones that also aren't toxic to humans. Because of this, that's why they have one that they rarely give out because it's supposed to be the antibiotic of last resort when the others won't work.
 
Also a problem are people stopping antibiotics prematurely. I am not 100% sure, but I believe it's been a long time since we've developed any new antibiotics.

I'm gonna get a little personal here. September of 2018 just before hurricane Florence hit I had a MRSA infection. It was severe and almost landed me in the hospital. I was treated with a bag of (sp) rocefin IV antibiotic in the ER and then given 7 days of keflex along with 10 days of clindamycin.....the clindamycin was BRUTAL but it cleared the infection.

Fast forward a month and I started having stomach issues. The first day i realized something was wrong it was like clock work every 45 minutes or so I was heading to the bathroom. This continued to worsen rapidly until I was back in the ER after going to the bathroom around 40 to 50 times a day for 3 or 4 days in a row. Tested positive for Cdiff and had reoccurrence through March of 2019. Took me 5 months of 21 day treatments using vancomycin. Quite possibly the worst 5 months of my life.

I then developed somewhat of a phobia of antibiotics. I have not used them since the MRSA infection. I'm just ot willing to go on antibiotics unless I'm dying.
 

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Now we have two big data points, Italy and the cruise ship. Both show asymptomatic cases are atleast 60% and that is probably still too low. If that is the case with our healthcare, general health, the CDCs reluctance to test and then the amount of mild cold to flu like cases, this is likley spreading across the US like wildfire unnoticed. For instance all 6 of us had the flu last year(the twins wasn't here yet) only my younger daughter was offcially diagnosed because she got it last and was the youngest(although she made a mockery of the flu and made us look like wimps)

Knowing that and how most people just stay home. It could be everywhere. I think as we learn more about it, we can learn how to keep this thing from impacting our elders.
Exactly and if so then that makes the death rate pretty low
 
I wouldn't count on the Tehran government to be especially cooperative, their Ministry of Health has been concealing the severity of the outbreak all along.

I'd put more stock into 192 hr DGEX snow forecasts than trusting what the Iranian gov't says.
 
I try to stay out of VB as much as possible. Living an hour away makes it possible. The only time I go up there is to Oceana commissary and Lynnhaven Mall.

I retired E-7 and I will make a little over twice my ending salary this contract. I stayed longer last year and it was 3 times my salary. There is risk but the money is too good. I am hitting 50 this year so my time on the bullet train is coming to an end. Gonna be hard because the last 4 months doing pretty much nothing has been boring......My wife is killing it in this real estate market so I might just fish and drink beer the rest of my life!

But NOT in VB....LOL
 
There's a pretty big difference between concern over CoV-19 and it actually being officially a pandemic.

I only take issue with the histrionic language being employed ("WHO raises coronavirus threat assessment to its highest level") - if they haven't designated it as a pandemic then obviously they're not at the "highest level".
 
Well this is interesting, especially considering that (as far as I know) there aren't any confirmed cases in the KSA...

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I only take issue with the histrionic language being employed ("WHO raises coronavirus threat assessment to its highest level") - if they haven't designated it as a pandemic then obviously they're not at the "highest level".

Yeah I can see how confusion would arise on your end and for many in the public. It's kind of like the NWS issuing a blizzard warning but then coming out and saying they're not actually sure if it's gonna snow at all in your backyard.
 
Exactly and if so then that makes the death rate pretty low

Yep. If we have a 60% asymptomatic rate and then 80% of the remaining cases are mild, the impact from the virus itself to nearly all Americans will be less than the flu. Just have to protect the elderly which will be tough if this is correct. When the fear wanes, most wont stay home for a cold and it would be back to normal which would really endanger the elderly.
 
I retired E-7 and I will make a little over twice my ending salary this contract. I stayed longer last year and it was 3 times my salary. There is risk but the money is too good. I am hitting 50 this year so my time on the bullet train is coming to an end. Gonna be hard because the last 4 months doing pretty much nothing has been boring......My wife is killing it in this real estate market so I might just fish and drink beer the rest of my life!

But NOT in VB....LOL

I like your last sentence the best. I just turned 50 two weeks ago. Funny how that age creeps up on you. Good luck to you. Stay safe. Keep your head down and your powder dry. Fair winds and following seas.
 
Yeah I can see how confusion would arise on your end and for many in the public. It's kind of like the NWS issuing a blizzard warning but then coming out and saying they're not actually sure if it's gonna snow at all in your backyard.

If FFC ever issues a Blizzard Warning for mby, I might not survive the shock.

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