Coronavirus (Stay on Topic)

[snowlover91]

Yeah, I would imagine that it would spread again.

So what would the point of the quarantine be then, if it would start spreading again? Just to slow it down long enough to let the medical facilities treat people without getting too overwhelmed? Things have really slowed down there but I would assume it could pick right back up now that they are easing things?

 

[Ethan80963]

 

[Rain Cold]

Wonder how many sick elderly people attended the biogen conference?

 

[Rain Cold]

So what would the point of the quarantine be then, if it would start spreading again? Just to slow it down long enough to let the medical facilities treat people without getting too overwhelmed? Things have really slowed down there but I would assume it could pick right back up now that they are easing things?

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I'm wondering the same thing as you. I guess maybe the people that got it will have some immunity to getting it again, but allegedly the percentage affected wasn't that high. But who really knows.

 

[Steven_1974]

So I should avoid the store, the mall , church , work , my kids baseball games ?? What a joke let’s just shut life down


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What a joke?

 

[snowlover91]

I'm wondering the same thing as you. I guess maybe the people that got it will have some immunity to getting it again, but allegedly the percentage affected wasn't that high. But who really knows.

Yeah I've tried finding an answer to this but I haven't yet found anything that really answers it... Here's how my logic runs, and it may be off but here goes. The time to "contain" the coronavirus was when it was initially breaking out in China. Indications are that the government covered it up for a few weeks which probably made containment impossible. Once they started locking things down, this was already out spreading all over the world. Now that it's global, even if a country could quarantine and 100% eliminate it, what's to stop people from other countries from bringing it in once quarantine's are lifted or like in China where the rate slowed dramatically but it still isn't eliminated? If a significant portion of the population hasn't been exposed, all the quarantine does is slow things down while it's in progress and hurts economic activity but as soon as it is lifted everyone is at risk again. The only thing I can figure logically is that it was done to prevent a complete collapse of the medical facilities and to make the government look like it is taking things seriously... but once lifted everyone is at risk again of a new "wave" starting up. I'm just not sure what the actual benefit of a quarantine is once something like this goes global outside of temporarily slowing things down. @Jon any thoughts on this?

 

[NoSnowATL]

So I should avoid the store, the mall , church , work , my kids baseball games ?? What a joke let’s just shut life down


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Seems to be the only solution right?


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[Nerman]

Yeah I've tried finding an answer to this but I haven't yet found anything that really answers it... Here's how my logic runs, and it may be off but here goes. The time to "contain" the coronavirus was when it was initially breaking out in China. Indications are that the government covered it up for a few weeks which probably made containment impossible. Once they started locking things down, this was already out spreading all over the world. Now that it's global, even if a country could quarantine and 100% eliminate it, what's to stop people from other countries from bringing it in once quarantine's are lifted or like in China where the rate slowed dramatically but it still isn't eliminated? If a significant portion of the population hasn't been exposed, all the quarantine does is slow things down while it's in progress and hurts economic activity but as soon as it is lifted everyone is at risk again. The only thing I can figure logically is that it was done to prevent a complete collapse of the medical facilities and to make the government look like it is taking things seriously... but once lifted everyone is at risk again of a new "wave" starting up. I'm just not sure what the actual benefit of a quarantine is once something like this goes global outside of temporarily slowing things down. @Jon any thoughts on this?

Isn't the whole point getting to a vaccine?

University of Tennessee scientists using supercomputer may have found coronavirus cure

Two researchers at the University of Tennessee may have found a drug that would work to possibly cure coronavirus.

www.fox2detroit.com

 

[Nerman]

Sanders cancels rally tonight "out of concern for public health"
From CNN's Annie Grayer

The Bernie Sanders' campaign is canceling its rally in Cleveland, Ohio, tonight, Communications Director Mike Casca tells CNN.

“Out of concern for public health and safety, we are canceling tonight’s rally in Cleveland," he said.

 

[Flurry]

So I should avoid the store, the mall , church , work , my kids baseball games ?? What a joke let’s just shut life down


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Live in fear, Storm...That's what they're telling you

 

[snowlover91]

Isn't the whole point getting to a vaccine?

University of Tennessee scientists using supercomputer may have found coronavirus cure

Two researchers at the University of Tennessee may have found a drug that would work to possibly cure coronavirus.

www.fox2detroit.com

Yeah but the few companies claiming to have vaccines or close to one are saying 12-18 months before that becomes a reality. We can't shut down the entire world for that long... I'm just trying to figure out what benefit a quarantine will actually bring outside of slowing this down a month at a time and then having a new wave that hits after the quarantine is lifted, especially now that this is everywhere pretty much. Maybe the hope is that warmer weather might help or that it will allow hospitals to get through flu season and adequately treat the patients they do have?

 

[tramadoc]

So what would the point of the quarantine be then, if it would start spreading again? Just to slow it down long enough to let the medical facilities treat people without getting too overwhelmed? Things have really slowed down there but I would assume it could pick right back up now that they are easing things?

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Good luck telling Americans to stay at home and shelter in place. You can’t make people stay home, unlike in China where they tell you to stay home and if you don’t, they shoot you in the street.

This country is ripe for an explosion of new cases, all because we as a people are too damn pigheaded to listen to the CDC.

 

[Deleted member 1449]

Just heard from a reliable source that the NC DPI instructed every school system in the state to have a plan in place by this Friday in the event that school closures are necessary. My source is inside the Winston-Salem Forsyth County system. The gist is, they (WSFS) are making preparations for online school for all students by March 20th (i.e. they're not expecting a need to close schools before then). There's a certain threshold for the number of cases within the school system that would trigger school closures. Students who don't have the necessary hardware and internet connection at home will be provided everything they need to continue school at home. He said that as of now they are preparing for a two-week closure.

 

[Shaggy]

I give up . Trying to explain to you guys why people compare it to the flu doesnt mean anyone is saying its not as bad as the flu or 10x worse.

Its a metric of a known quantity. To then form conclusions from.

But you cant draw a conclusion about how an orange taste by eating an apple.

Had someone else bring up car accidents and why we dont "freak out" when they kill thousands of Americans every year. Last time I checked if I get in a crash on Friday I dont spread it to my family or co-workers.

 

[Shaggy]

Sheesh... at this point I think we're all hoping the warmer weather beats this thing back.

Coronavirus cases could reach 64,000 in Washington state by May, governor says

The Evergreen State has 162 confirmed coronavirus cases across eight counties, but infectious disease experts say the actual number could be closer to 1,000 or more, Inslee said.

www.cnbc.com

I linked a study yesterday that says it can live 2-3 days on certain surfaces at 98F.

 

[Shaggy]

Also, it appears things are leveling off in South Korea.

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Yup and look at the efforts it took to do it. We arent doing anything close to that here.

 

[snowlover91]

Yup and look at the efforts it took to do it. We arent doing anything close to that here.

As mentioned above though what is the point of a quarantine? As soon as it’s lifted, a new wave of infections can start. You can’t do global quarantines for 12-18 months.

 

[Downeastnc]

As mentioned above though what is the point of a quarantine? As soon as it’s lifted, a new wave of infections can start. You can’t do global quarantines for 12-18 months.

Quarantines are like speed bumps, they are just trying to keep the rate of spread at a level that prevents overloading hospitals etc. There may be several quarantines etc put in place and lifted every few weeks in the same areas over the next 6-12 month to try and control the spread . People have to remember these quarantines do not mean you don't go to work, or that you cant go to the store etc. It just means they want you to limit travel locally and interaction with others as much as possible, they also shut down things that allow for large public gatherings like movies, sporting events, concerts, no weddings and funerals etc.....they also try to prevent people from different areas traveling to other areas. In Italy the biggest problem they had were thousands of people self evacuating the hard hit Lombardy region for other parts of Italy, this is exactly what they do not want.

I suspect we start to see widespread school/University closures across the country, lots of canceled concerts, sporting events happening with no crowds etc...

Washington has reported 2 more deaths but more worrisome is that these two were at two different nursing homes and they now have positive cases of Corona in at least 10 different nursing homes....

 

[snowlover91]

Quarantines are like speed bumps, they are just trying to keep the rate of spread at a level that prevents overloading hospitals etc. There may be several quarantines etc put in place and lifted every few weeks in the same areas over the next 6-12 month to try and control the spread . People have to remember these quarantines do not mean you don't go to work, or that you cant go to the store etc. It just means they want you to limit travel locally and interaction with others as much as possible, they also shut down things that allow for large public gatherings like movies, sporting events, concerts, no weddings and funerals etc.....they also try to prevent people from different areas traveling to other areas. In Italy the biggest problem they had were thousands of people self evacuating the hard hit Lombardy region for other parts of Italy, this is exactly what they do not want.

I suspect we start to see widespread school/University closures across the country, lots of canceled concerts, sporting events happening with no crowds etc...

Washington has reported 2 more deaths but more worrisome is that these two were at two different nursing homes and they now have positive cases of Corona in at least 10 different nursing homes....

Yeah that makes sense... so the quarantine is basically to act as a “speed bump” to slow things down temporarily before it ramps back up but at the cost of hurting the economy and businesses. Fortunately I work at a job where I can work remote if necessary but if I worked a job that paid hourly I would be very concerned about how I would pay the bills in the long run.

 

[Ethan80963]