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I wanted to pass along what I was just told. I have a job that is involved with parts of govt. I have a strong connection to Canada govt. A nationwide lockdown is happening. By end of week. All major stores are getting last shipments this week. All non essential personal will have to stay home. Trump has been cord with Canada why the borders are closing. The closing of restaurants is the stepping up process to not cause panic. We will be just like France,Spain,Italy. I know it comes across as bs but the person I know was on conference call with WH today. So let’s see what happens.
Why would all stores be getting last shipments?
 
The one thing he and I discussed is that most cases the person is recovering. Now the cough is horrible from all accounts he said. A cough that is so bad it will make your chest really hurt. Takes time to get over the cough.
 
From my understanding the dist centers will shut down also. One in TN is in isolation from one employee testing positive for it.

A nationwide shutdown is definitely incoming, it's just really a matter of when. I'd give till Friday, at the latest.
 
I wanted to pass along what I was just told. I have a job that is involved with parts of govt. I have a strong connection to Canada govt. A nationwide lockdown is happening. By end of week. All major stores are getting last shipments this week. All non essential personal will have to stay home. Trump has been cord with Canada why the borders are closing. The closing of restaurants is the stepping up process to not cause panic. We will be just like France,Spain,Italy. I know it comes across as bs but the person I know was on conference call with WH today. So let’s see what happens.

I don’t think it’s going to happen. There is no last shipments because people would starve. Perhaps if people don’t listen we could have some kind of shutdown. But I call BS on grocery stores getting last shipments Trump done said those will continue to stock shelves. And remain open!


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I don’t think it’s going to happen. There is no last shipments because people would starve. Perhaps if people don’t listen we could have some kind of shutdown. But I call BS on grocery stores getting last shipments Trump done said those will continue to stock shelves. And remain open!


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It will be like Italy France etc. Even PR is locked down. One person goes to store for certain items.
 
I am passing along what he said. Now does it happen? I will wait and see and if does not happen I will call him out.
 
It will be like Italy France etc. Even PR is locked down. One person goes to store for certain items.

Yeah I could see a lockdown. But the idea of last shipments this week. Come on think about this. People going 2-4 weeks with nothing in the grocery stores some households would go hungry and I don’t see that happening. Grocery stores will continue to get shipments.


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Yeah I could see a lockdown. But the idea of last shipments this week. Come on think about this. People going 2-4 weeks with nothing in the grocery stores some households would go hungry and I don’t see that happening. Grocery stores will continue to get shipments.


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Unless the national guard is deployed nationwide to keep order and hand out food rations..just a thought. Probably wouldn’t happen. I hope
 
I will say more that I see about the recoveries the more I question the way the govts have handled this virus. I am starting to believe they over did the reaction to handle it. I am not trying to hype this. Honestly I hope this bust. I am ready for this to be over and get back to watching my daughter play soccer!
 
Why would all stores be getting last shipments?

Yeah that part doesn't make a lot of sense. If you're going to do "shelter in place", based off what I've learned, stores should remain open. I'd consider stores and distribution centers to be "essential".

Well, if we end up doing a lockdown and it's longer than two weeks with no ability to go to the grocery store as well (thankfully if the store my parents go to isn't totally ransacked, and maybe it won't be if this theory that they might get a shipment is true, they are going to pick up a few extra things, finally), we're kind of #*)#ed. I think we'd be OK for two weeks, but beyond that I have no idea outside of probably running through the sourdough starter. Not to let on exact money details, but we're well off. Dad could pick up a few extra things here and there for emergency cases no problem (and the things we finally brought up this afternoon are stuff we'd eventually use anyway). Dad hasn't done anything because he has found this whole thing to be hysterical and thinks it is going to go away in a short time.

I might be screwed as well with personal stuff, because I want to take the TEAS again to try to score higher for my application. I wasn't going to until next month, but if that stuff is true, who knows if whether that will be available.
 
Asked about last shipments to grocers
answer:

Production facilities are closing daily. The can of soup on the shelf now was made months to a year ago. Over purchase by some will lead to shortages for many.
 
Even in Canada some of our gas refineries are closing
I said news has not mentioned this
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Nope they are not informed yet or are delayed on. Release by government request.
 
I will say more that I see about the recoveries the more I question the way the govts have handled this virus. I am starting to believe they over did the reaction to handle it. I am not trying to hype this. Honestly I hope this bust. I am ready for this to be over and get back to watching my daughter play soccer!

Right now, the US mortality rate is 1.83%. Population is 331 million. Estimates are 40 to 70% could be infected if we don't do anything.

Do you want to calculate total deaths under that scenario? Or do you want me to do it? And are they acceptable losses?
 
Asked about last shipments to grocers
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Production facilities are closing daily. The can of soup on the shelf now was made months to a year ago. Over purchase by some will lead to shortages for many.

I honestly hope your source is wrong. Do you know how catastrophic such a thing would be. If we think there’s panic now. Just wait on something like this to happen!


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I honestly hope your source is wrong. Do you know how catastrophic such a thing would be. If we think there’s panic now. Just wait on something like this to happen!


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I agree Jessy. If this source is right then we are not being told everything.
 
Right now, the US mortality rate is 1.83%. Population is 331 million. Estimates are 40 to 70% could be infected if we don't do anything.

Do you want to calculate total deaths under that scenario? Or do you want me to do it? And are they acceptable losses?
I am not here to argue either way. Either way it sucks. Deaths or a recession either way or going to hurt us all. Hopefully this is over soon for us all and we all can get back to talking about wx and having laughs.
 
I will say more that I see about the recoveries the more I question the way the govts have handled this virus. I am starting to believe they over did the reaction to handle it. I am not trying to hype this. Honestly I hope this bust. I am ready for this to be over and get back to watching my daughter play soccer!

Just my opinion but I don't think you can overreact to this virus, especially considering the unknown that comes from this virus. We don't know how long the cases will continue to rise here and we don't know if it will come back next winter. I think all measures that are deemed "extreme" or "overhyping" to some are appropriate and necessary.

This is how I think when it comes to Hurricanes, I'd much rather see a community prepare for the worst than just take a wait and see approach and then when the Hurricane is on the front door it's too late.
 
Agree 1000%. I think a lot of us are just downright frightened, overwhelmed and uncertain about the future. The thing is none of us know how to react to a situation like this. Sure, we read about, studied pandemics in high school and college, but we thought we would never have to be part of one. It's a lot to take in. We need to learn to cope and come together as one. No country can defeat this alone.

No sense in being frightened or worried. Firstly it's almost certain you will be fine and while the future may be cloudy and a little rough you still sit better in this scenario than 99% of the world does in their good times.

I always figured I'd see a global pandemic, although much worse than this one. This one, the average 16-50 year old can make a difference in. Just as said in the press conference, if we(by far the least affected by the virus) can keep our elders and those with medical problems as safe as possible, we can score a major victory. I found myself on instinct keeping distance from the older people in DG this afternoon. It really is a massive impact us younger people can accomplish.
 
I am not here to argue either way. Either way it sucks. Deaths or a recession either way or going to hurt us all. Hopefully this is over soon for us all and we all can get back to talking about wx and having laughs.
Fair enough. I will not press the point at the moment.
 
What people aren't really getting I think, is a lot of us live with elderly parents, where the death rate is much higher. Which is why we're scared. Not so much about our chances of serious medical issues, but who we might pass it on to. And if you work in retail Iike I do, for a 'big corporation' who isn't doing enough to protect us, well the fear is only rational.
 
A serious question. How long is everyone willing to have all these closings and shut down of business? When is enough? Let’s say it’s 2 months like in China. Is everyone ok with that?
 
A serious question. How long is everyone willing to have all these closings and shut down of business? When is enough? Let’s say it’s 2 months like in China. Is everyone ok with that?
I’m already tired of being in the house and it’s been one day. I have to WFH now and I don’t even like that, I’d rather be in the office
 
With regards to the potential nationwide lock-down, my oldest sister contacted me yesterday and told me she was told it was happening by the end of this week. My sister is in management for a major healthcare insurer in NC and her information came from a colleague who is high-placed in Chick-fil-a (of all companies).

Again, take it for what its worth but consider the following: my sister doesn't normally peddle in such info (I was surprised when she even mentioned it to me). She didn't say she was convinced it was happening, she was only relaying what she was told by another person. Finally, the old adage, "where there's smoke, there's fire," seems applicable here. There sure is a lot of smoke.
 
I am going to sound like a mad man, but I just realized that there are things people can do outside during this whole crisis that doesn't put themselves or others at risk for the virus.

The whole point of social distancing/quarantine is to stay away from large groups of people to prevent infection, there are activities that can be done outside that doesn't even whole interacting with other people at all let alone in large groups. Most of the public seems to be taking this as a message to stay inside 24/7.
 
Like for example, if someone got in their car and just drove around for thirty minutes without getting out or anything, without getting into any close contact with other people, would that be too big of a risk for someone to do?
 
Yep and the lesson we should be learning from those other countries is that we need to institute a total shutdown much, much sooner (like right now actually) we’ve already completely screwed ourselves on testing so there’s that
Alabama only picked up one case since this am . Up to 29 , 17 in Jefferson county


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There are apparently 25 pending tests that were given in the Huntsville Hospital system. Should hear today (Tuesday) I have no idea why I am up at 4 am lol.
 
I am going to sound like a mad man, but I just realized that there are things people can do outside during this whole crisis that doesn't put themselves or others at risk for the virus.

The whole point of social distancing/quarantine is to stay away from large groups of people to prevent infection, there are activities that can be done outside that doesn't even whole interacting with other people at all let alone in large groups. Most of the public seems to be taking this as a message to stay inside 24/7.

If they do have a lock down, I have enough to do outside to last years. The real issue is locking down home depot and the needed supplies....
 
If the Chinese have known about this since December, where are their vaccines and antiviral treatments?

Where is their partnership and cooperation with the USA and the rest of the world on solutions to eradicate COV-19?

The reason why is this is Chinese Bio-Economic-Warfare designed to destabilize economies with political intent.

Why do we trust them to manufacture our pharmaceuticals?
 
There are two drugs which have shown to be promising in the treatment (NOT prevention) of caronavirus, one is the old malaria drug Chloroquine Phosphate , the other is the HIV treatment drug called Remdesivir
 
We'll it just got real here. My wife is sick, hopefully Strep, so we are at home until she gets tested. She was exposed to Strep on Friday and only went out once since so that is the hope but with community spread already happening in Cartersville you never know. We've been stocking up for months so there is some comfort.
 
If the Chinese have known about this since December, where are their vaccines and antiviral treatments?
Chinese universities are working on vaccines.
Chinese drug companies have partnerships with US companies and are working collectively on a vaccine.

A vaccine will probably take 8-12 months, best case, not 2 months to make.

They have suggested antivirals that already exist for US physicians and MDs around the world to use to fight it. (Ex. Lopinavir/ritonavir, Chloroquine, Tocilizumab, etc) Without their suggestions, death tolls around the world would be substantially higher.

Where is their partnership and cooperation with the USA and the rest of the world on solutions to eradicate COV-19?
China has been helping the world since this begun. They’ve done more to help with this than any country.

The reason why is this is Chinese Bio-Economic-Warfare designed to destabilize economies with political intent.

Why do we trust them to manufacture our pharmaceuticals?

It’s Chinese bio warfare but shut down their own country and manufacturing when they were doing just fine? It would make sense (maybe) if they were in a recession or collapsing as a country but that’s not the case so the conspiracy theory doesn’t check out.

We trust them to manufacture because Americans want too much money and big pharma is greedy. It’s the USA’s fault by allowing API facilities outside the country and outsourcing jobs. “China just said ok we’ll take the jobs” How can you blame them? India and the rest of the world actually beat China with API manufacturing. So as a pharmacist, most drugs I see are actually manufactured in India or China, but I see a higher percentage from India.

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We'll it just got real here. My wife is sick, hopefully Strep, so we are at home until she gets tested. She was exposed to Strep on Friday and only went out once since so that is the hope but with community spread already happening in Cartersville you never know. We've been stocking up for months so there is some comfort.
Damn man, hope for the best! There is a hotspot in Bartow for sure.
 
Right now, the US mortality rate is 1.83%. Population is 331 million. Estimates are 40 to 70% could be infected if we don't do anything.

Do you want to calculate total deaths under that scenario? Or do you want me to do it? And are they acceptable losses?
Not trying to add light to the situation but I think the mortality rate is inflated because of the testing situation. I know someone who has it and is self quarantined. Has not been tested because he did not meet criteria. Once testing is available I think we will find out thousands more actually have it.
 
The stores opened here at 6 I went wasent much meat they had chicken most thing still empty despite over night deliveries.
 
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