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Pattern Ablazing August

Assuming the forecast verifies pretty well, which is highly likely this close based on GEFS PNA forecasts having done quite well, the upcoming +PNA peak would be highly anomalous though not really all that extraordinary because ASO strongly + peaks occur much more often for some reason than during other months as you'll see below. And that's nothing new. I'd love to know the reason!

The GEFS is suggesting a high chance at a peak of 2.8+ in early Aug. Since 1950, there have been only 6 peaks of 2.8+:

- 3.397 09/24/08

- 3.328 07/02/82

- 3.160 08/01/09

- 3.142 09/28/79

- 3.112 09/30/59

- 2.965 09/26/02

So, the last one was 12 years ago. Note that all 6 occurred during JAS meaning the upcoming early Aug peak fits in fairly well with this climo. Interestingly though, 4 of the 6 were within the tiny interval of the last week of Sep!



Since 1950, there have been this many peaks by month of 2+ adding to a total of 59 peaks or ~once per year:

Jan 0

Feb 2

Mar 0

Apr 2

May 2

Jun 7

Jul 7

Aug 12

Sep 16

Oct 10

Nov 1

Dec 0



So, since 1950, there were only 7 peaks of 2+ during Nov-May or once every 10 years with the highest being only 2.353! Only 2 of the 72 DJFs had one and they were both in very late Feb: 2/29/68 and 2/28/83. OTOH, a whopping 38 of the 59 (~2/3) occurred during ASO with all 10 in Oct during Oct 1-12!

Source for daily PNA: ftp://ftp.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/cwlinks/norm.daily.pna.index.b500101.current.ascii

7/29/21 GEFS PNA forecast:
PNAgefs072921.gif

Edit: It may be a coincidence, but note that the strong +PNA frequency peaks with the peak of SSTs.
 
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Yeah they’re starting to come down to earth now … the morning looks like crapvection though and then some thunderstorms get going later but develop around me and you then move SE .. it’s screaming bust potential for me
Little bit different given we are in summer with a LLJ with summer thermodynamics vs spring, that early morning stuff might set down a boundary somewhere 8C1BAEF5-CE22-47E7-B5DC-6800752BC842.pngEBA68DB4-6861-4377-86C5-D62B59272722.png
 
3k has Mlcapes around 3500 and dcape around 1500 the wind threat Sunday afternoon is quite high. Given that we are likely to see organization into line segments if not a full on qlcs type look we are probably going to see a high number of wind reports
 
3k has Mlcapes around 3500 and dcape around 1500 the wind threat Sunday afternoon is quite high. Given that we are likely to see organization into line segments if not a full on qlcs type look we are probably going to see a high number of wind reports
Solid-impressive for august standards 8D0674C8-3442-46CB-A7BA-D47ACD00915A.png
 
Assuming the forecast verifies pretty well, which is highly likely this close based on GEFS PNA forecasts having done quite well, the upcoming +PNA peak would be highly anomalous though not really all that extraordinary because ASO strongly + peaks occur much more often for some reason than during other months as you'll see below. And that's nothing new. I'd love to know the reason!

The GEFS is suggesting a high chance at a peak of 2.8+ in early Aug. Since 1950, there have been only 6 peaks of 2.8+:

- 3.397 09/24/08

- 3.328 07/02/82

- 3.160 08/01/09

- 3.142 09/28/79

- 3.112 09/30/59

- 2.965 09/26/02

So, the last one was 12 years ago. Note that all 6 occurred during JAS meaning the upcoming early Aug peak fits in fairly well with this climo. Interestingly though, 4 of the 6 were within the tiny interval of the last week of Sep!



Since 1950, there have been this many peaks by month of 2+ adding to a total of 59 peaks or ~once per year:

Jan 0

Feb 2

Mar 0

Apr 2

May 2

Jun 7

Jul 7

Aug 12

Sep 16

Oct 10

Nov 1

Dec 0



So, since 1950, there were only 7 peaks of 2+ during Nov-May or once every 10 years with the highest being only 2.353! Only 2 of the 72 DJFs had one and they were both in very late Feb: 2/29/68 and 2/28/83. OTOH, a whopping 38 of the 59 (~2/3) occurred during ASO with all 10 in Oct during Oct 1-12!

Source for daily PNA: ftp://ftp.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/cwlinks/norm.daily.pna.index.b500101.current.ascii

7/29/21 GEFS PNA forecast:
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Edit: It may be a coincidence, but note that the strong +PNA frequency peaks with the peak of SSTs.

Followup: here’s today’s GEFS PNA forecast, which is very similarly suggesting a near +3 within the first few days of August:

D8EB1AA9-AE31-4873-B06C-90500113F617.jpeg
 
Nam still wants to spirt out a few supercells on Sunday .. still tho I’m quite skeptical we get this lucky but never say never I guess .. also longer range NAM looked a bit bet from 60-84 so that was nice to see59600D60-6157-413B-A788-7D5AA686E2AC.png
 
Think this could be expanded a bit more west if the NAM is correct .. continues to show supercells cranking from around Raleigh Charlotte south and East … latest king range HRRR showed more coverage but is still a mainly i-95 east type of deal and some action along the SC/NC border past Charlotte .. we will see
 
I had no idea there was an uncontrollable drought in NC. It's as bad as ya'll are saying. The US Drought Monitor painted 17% of the state in yellow, indicating that people in the area should start collecting urine and converting it into drinkable water.

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Hahahaha yes definitely just a tease from me.. some people believe we are in some crazy drought but reality states otherwise.. I like this idea of urine collection though that may help our western NC folks
 
Short Range HRRR No dice=FAIL,, One lone T-Storm, (On the beach)..
 
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