Misc 2021 Spring/Summer Whamby Thread

[Ollie Williams]

BREAKING: GFS and Euro are merging into one. Here's the article: GFS merging into Euro. Performance expected to improve

I believed it for a second.

 

[NorthDFWwx]

 

[Myfrotho704_]

This is worse then the May cutoff last year

 

[NoSnowATL]

Pollen will be awful the next 14 days. Honestly the worse part about Spring.

 

[LickWx]

This is worse then the May cutoff last year

Worst part of this is all is it gives anti climo head in sand stickers like @bham99 anecdotes to use . They never average things up they just like anecdotes, and seem to think the NCEI is a conspiracy . I’m sure he will tell me the mid 20s in April are normal in a few years and say he remembers seeing them multiple times every April !!!!

 

[Myfrotho704_]

I honestly don’t even want a -NAO in winter no more, atp I just want to rely on the pacific only

 

[SD]

I honestly don’t even want a -NAO in winter no more, atp I just want to rely on the pacific only

I'd love to have a strong mid Summer -nao just to see what it's like

 

[LickWx]

I honestly don’t even want a -NAO in winter no more, atp I just want to rely on the pacific only

Nope I want a negative AO and negative NAO for 5 straight years . I want them to be in record territory as well. Then the worlds climate would truly change

 

[LickWx]

I'd love to have a strong mid Summer just to see what it's like

Honestly deep down I find this cool. The negative NAO is rare . I do wonder what would happen in mid summer as well!

 

[Myfrotho704_]

I'd love to have a strong mid Summer -nao just to see what it's like

Trough in New England with cyclonic flow maybe ?

 

[LickWx]

Imagine the epic melting in green land and the Arctic if we had a very negative AO and NAO . Well specifically NAO all summer long , and at record territory . Negative AO would mean low pressure in summer , they need high pressure actually in summer for big melt !

 

[LickWx]

Even more exciting ! Enough meltwater in a super negative NAO in summer from Greenland could shut down the Gulf Stream! Let’s do it let’s wreak havoc! Now that would be exciting , especially for our perpetually above average friends in Europe !

 

[SD]

Trough in New England with cyclonic flow maybe ?

Most likely. I'm going to track down the most negative summer months and see what we got

 

[SD]

Here are a few -NAO Julys


Precip

 

[Myfrotho704_]

Here are a few -NAO Julys
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Looks NW flowish ?

 

[LickWx]

Here are a few -NAO Julys
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So average .... slightly hotter highs , drier , lower dew-points and slightly colder nights . Could be a summer of lots of 90s then with not too many muggy nights .

 

[Myfrotho704_]

Well there’s some from 2015

 

[smast16]

Here are a few -NAO Julys
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Rounding over the top of that Texas ridge sandwiched between the northern trough and southern ridge. Like aiming a loaded gun at us.

Edit: Just like Fro's Reports above... ☝☝

 

[NorthDFWwx]

I'd love to have a strong mid Summer -nao just to see what it's like

2009.

 

[Bham 99]

Worst part of this is all is it gives anti climo head in sand stickers like @bham99 anecdotes to use . They never average things up they just like anecdotes, and seem to think the NCEI is a conspiracy . I’m sure he will tell me the mid 20s in April are normal in a few years and say he remembers seeing them multiple times every April !!!!

You've only experienced about half of the winters that I've experienced..and out of that half you probably only remember 8 to 10 at most. You have a long way to go, and you will see.