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Misc 2020/21 Fall and Winter Whamby Thread

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So my high temp as of midnight Friday was 34.2. I went and looked through my weather records to see the last time I had a high below freezing and it was around mid February of 2020. Sitting at 30 now so maybe today is the day that streak is broken but it will not be if models are correct. It goes to show just how hard we’ve struggled to get true Arctic air in the south since 2018 ended. In most winters before the last 2-3 I’d easily have a handful of days below freezing and one or two with highs in the upper teens or low 20s. Also I’d get single digit lows at least once or twice and that also hasn’t happened since January 2018 I believe. I think it was January 2018 when we didn’t get above freezing for over a week and every bit of water was frozen solid.
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yep here’s pictures from January 2018. A week or so later after a short warm up I got to snows in 5 days. First one was almost 4 inches and the second was about 3. Then in March I got a sloppy 2 inches of snow which was the last time I’ve come close to getting a two inch snow event.
 
I mean snow is basically over lol, when you have a 0 inch mean during mid feb thru hour 312, that basically tells you everything you need to know View attachment 74265

I've said this multiple times this winter...I'm moving to central TX. It's the snowiest place on the planet.
 
It’s over for us.
Yeah I think I’m waving the white flag on snow this winter, imo I think we’re done, I know there’s March and the -NAO might come back but the MJO going ahead doesn’t look good, and the AAM looks like it might switch weak negative, honestly the subseasonal pattern looks more favorable for severe wx going forward, but we’ll find a way to stay cool with shortened wavelengths
 
Forever...I can't envision a scenario where we see accumulating snow at any point from now until the end of time. We had wall to wall blocking, well AN precip and nothing. If it can't snow with that then we are done forever.


I think Raleigh will still get snow every year. Some years, maybe a lot of it. However I can't say the same for the Midlands of South Carolina. Been 7 whole years since Columbia-Aiken-Augusta received .7 or more inches of snow or .10 ore more inches of Freezing rain. Until the the Indian/west Pacific Ocean cools(which probably will never happen due to Global warming),areas like Houston TX and San Antonio have better chance of getting winter storms than the Midlands of South Carolina from this point forward despite of having much warmer temperatures on average :(
 
Comparing this winter to last would be like going up to a hot girl last year and asking her out and she says "NO way" and this year is like having a pretty hot girl wink, smile, flirt and sit beside you at lunch and you ask her out and THEN she say no. Both are bad but give me the one who lets me know I have no chance!
 
I guess I was lucky to manage an inch and a half of very wet snow that couldn't stick to roads and melted by 10am. What a dumpster fire for the NC piedmont this year. Not even GSO is doing well. I know some of you will welcome the warmth, but I see it as our last window for snow slipping away before our eyes. December usually doesn't have snow so I may not see a snowflake again until at least 2022. I would love to see a winter where all of NC has above average snowfall - except Roxboro.
 
I guess I was lucky to manage an inch and a half of very wet snow that couldn't stick to roads and melted by 10am. What a dumpster fire for the NC piedmont this year. Not even GSO is doing well. I know some of you will welcome the warmth, but I see it as our last window for snow slipping away before our eyes. December usually doesn't have snow so I may not see a snowflake again until at least 2022. I would love to see a winter where all of NC has above average snowfall - except Roxboro.
Yeah I'm not so much into mega march anymore. When the cfs gives you support might want to punt
 
This isn't even my coldest rain of the season! It does make me feel a little better knowing at least one Columbia snow record will be broken. It'll be the longest streak without 1" of snow in history. Here's to next winter extending that record even further!
 
This isn't even my coldest rain of the season! It does make me feel a little better knowing at least one Columbia snow record will be broken. It'll be the longest streak without 1" of snow in history. Here's to next winter extending that record even further!
What's the date of that happening?
 
I am legitimately excited for @Brent and @Mr. Golf in the South Central. I would love to see their drought end with a bang.


Don't get me wrong, I'm excited for Brent and those who live in Texas/LA/MS as well. It's just that it's strange and a bit depressing to see Houston and San Antonio not being nearly as effected by Global Warming as we are in the eastern SE. GAWX point this out very well. Until the waters in the Indian and western Pacific Ocean(which probably will never happen being it's apart of GW),more of this can be expected in future winters.SE ridge preventing cold from getting south of Virginia and east of the Appalachians with a cold dump in the Western/Central US.
 
Seriously thinking about giving up this hobby :/

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Can't blame you. If my area doesn't snow /ice or even severe cold by next couple of years, it might time for me to retire from this hobby as well. Tracking cold rain events get very boring after awhile and Hurricanes are very destructive. The only thing to look forward in the eastern Southeast nowadays weather wise is severe weather and even then, we even fail at that sometimes.
 
Hopefully we can retrograde ourselves into a torch, if we manage to avoid a huge west based -NAO again, then there’s light at the end of the tunnel, normally those ridges in the pacific retrograde over time and once they retrograde far enough west, stuff dumps out west, problem is shorter wavelengths
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Hopefully we can retrograde ourselves into a torch, if we manage to avoid a huge west based -NAO again, then there’s light at the end of the tunnel, normally those ridges in the pacific retrograde over time and once they retrograde far enough west, stuff dumps out west, problem is shorter wavelengths
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I'd almost be willing to bet we get colder on the models first with a more classic western ridge that eventually retrogrades into a warm pattern
 
I mean snow is basically over lol, when you have a 0 inch mean during mid feb thru hour 312, that basically tells you everything you need to know View attachment 74265
What a kick in the nuts this image is. Seriously good for everyone that will see snow in this pattern, but damn I can't help but be jealous. Maybe next year. We gotta reel a boardwide big dog in eventually right? Right??!!
 
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