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Wintry 2/11-2/12 ULL Magic or More Cold Rain

Yes, a few years ago when this area of western Georgia got a foot of snow in that first week of December. I’m sure a totally different setup, but they weren’t calling for anything like that. Plus we’ve been known to get a decent snow or ice event on Super Bowl weekend lol
I experienced this. I lived in atlanta and worked about 35 miles northwest… had a dentist appt up there. Knew there was a slight chance of snow and when I came outside the biggest flakes I had ever seen were falling! Took 4 hours to get back to Atlanta but the city didn’t get near as much!
 
I experienced this. I lived in atlanta and worked about 35 miles northwest… had a dentist appt up there. Knew there was a slight chance of snow and when I came outside the biggest flakes I had ever seen were falling! Took 4 hours to get back to Atlanta but the city didn’t get near as much!
Even though the setup is totally different, it feels so similar. NAM coming on board with massive amounts.. snow falling into above freezing air temperatures.. heavy snow/deformation enhancement.. etc
 
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GSP early morning discussion:
.SHORT TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/...
As of 410 AM Friday: The complex weather system is still on track
for the area Saturday through Sunday night. Positively tilted trough
and closed upper low starts along the TX/LA border, moves east along
the Gulf Coast Saturday, to the Central Savannah River Valley
Saturday night, to the NC/SC coastal border Sunday, and off the Cape
Hatteras coast Sunday night taking a somewhat negative tilt through
time, but not as much as the previous model runs. At the surface,
high pressure tries to build in before the surface low associated
with the upper low moves into srn GA on Saturday. The low reaches
the NC/SC coastal border Saturday night. The low then moves along
the NC coast Sunday before moving off shore Sunday night.

Moisture and precip begin to quickly ramp up from north to south by
Saturday afternoon as deep moisture moves in on the east and
southeast flow and forcing begins. Precip spreads across the area
Saturday night on the warm conveyor belt ahead of the upper low.
Precip continues Sunday morning as the deformation zone associated
with the upper low moves over. Precip then tapers off from south to
north as the zone moves away from the area. Precip ends Sunday night
as the system moves farther away. As previously mentioned, this set
up can be good for wintry precip, but the lack of cold air at onset,
even with an in-situ CAD is the limiting factor.

There continues to be good agreement on rain changing to snow across
the mountains. There even appears to be the potential for a brief
period of snow outside of the mountains late Saturday night/early
Sunday morning as the warm conveyor belt moves out and the freezing
level gets close to the surface. The NC Foothills would be in a
transition zone where some accumulating snow is possible. The GFS
has joined the NAM showing the potential for a weak warm nose before
the deeper cold air moves in. Don`t expect any freezing rain, but
could be a transition to or mix with sleet before snow takes over.
Do have some sleet in the forecast over portions of the area, but
that doesn`t look to be significant for now. There is still some
uncertainty in the forecast, so after collaboration with neighboring
forecast offices, will hold off on a watch for another cycle. If
trends hold, then a Watch would be needed for the NC mountains later
today. Of course, only small changes in surface temps or temp
profiles would potentially have a big change in the forecast.

Winds will also be a concern given the strength of the low pressure
systems. There`s also the potential for gravity waves to help force
stronger winds to the surface. Wind Advisories would be possible
outside of any Winter products. Again, this is uncertain and a
change in the forecast is possible.
 
Slowly trending for less and less snow outside the mountains. CMC, icon, RGEM, are super bleak outside high peaks. Gfs has been ticking that way NAM too. Rough trends this morning for most.

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Happens literally every time the word snow is a potential in the S. No surprise here. Ha e expected this exact trend.
 
Here are the 07 UTC NBM Snow % Chances based on a trace of 0.01:

CAE - < 1%
GSP - 12%
CLT - 12%
FFC - 3%
RDU - 11%
TNB - 91%
AVL - 72%
HSV - < 1%
RHP - 37%
HKY - 40%

I could continue with other locations, but Climo is winning out on the NBM here, especially for Boone with a 91% chance.
 
Without being a weenie, I could see things over-perform here because the cold core is going to be coming right through the southern upstate. That tells me we should have the best chance to get both rates and dynamic cooling in a system with no real cold source other than relying on bombing out and pulling the cold air out of the top of the atmosphere to the ground. I could be completely wrong too, but based on the track and just seeing how models are showing this in Georgia but not nearly as extreme in the upstate makes me think we have a chance to maybe over perform a little here
 
We have to base our expectations on the reality that these days winter in AL, GA, SC, and most of NC resides in the mountains/far north of the state. Models that advertise otherwise will likely trend away or be wrong.


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I think as much as anything we’ve just had a number of marginal, crappy setups ever since January 2019. The lone exception being the storm last Jan that hit the Upstate pretty hard. We’re not alone though. Same thing can be said in Philly & DC. Is it a new norm? I kind of doubt it, but none of us know for sure
 
I think as much as anything we’ve just had a number of marginal, crappy setups ever since January 2019. The lone exception being the storm last Jan that hit the Upstate pretty hard. We’re not alone though. Same thing can be said in Philly & DC. Is it a new norm? I kind of doubt it, but none of us know for sure
We definitely had long stretches before early 90s come to mind. La Nina for the last couple years has really hurt too imo.
 
The trend overnight seems to have been quicker deepening and tugging more north with the 500mb low. yuck!

I will say though, while this decrease most peoples chances on the front end due to too much WAA.... we're still going to get that cold core passage Sunday morning where soundings will be very supportive of snow. A 2-3 hour window of light to moderate snow looks like likely for northern GA, upstate SC, and western NC as that feature passes overhead. Could be issues with sticking depending on surface temps and time of day... but at least, imo, theres a high chance we will see snow falling at minimum.

Edit to add: I also haven't thrown in the towel on higher totals... These storms tend to lose some amperage on modeling in the last 48hrs... especially when they're showing such rapid deepening.
 
It's always interesting to see some of these hi-resolution models that the weather stations use. Sometimes it's a preview of what the hrrr might spit out.

The timing is a disaster for NC folks, too. If it even happens, we will have the unholy trifecta for lack of snow accumulation: warm soil temps, warm BL, AND sun angle (a lot of this looks like mid-day).
 
That upper level low back side moisture behind the first push will surprise someone outside of the mountains Sunday morning into Sunday afternoon along the 85 corridor. I'm going to stick with that. You are going to get a band that forms as cold air aloft pools in behind the LP. That in house model shows it well from Christian.
 
Definitely. My high bar is to see a good 30 minute burst of snow in the air.
I hope you get it brother, I believe a lot of folks will at least see some snow falling even if it is mixed with rain/sleet. But I really believe later in February into March we will have a good board wide winter storm, I think we're going to have a good pattern for 2/3 weeks....
 
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