alfoman
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Storm5 link said:[quote author=alfoman link=topic=80.msg6739#msg6739 date=1483335819]
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I mean where we are on Sunday night leaves me concerned . for days and days the models were showing a very nice transient NAO block. over the last 4 days it keeps trending weaker and weaker and further to the NE. The NW trend could be very real with this system especially if it's able to strengthen modestly. we are worrying about our shortwave which we should . But we can't just ignore the fact that there is room for this to go NW
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Why is it such a common bias for the models to have a height shift northward as we get closer to the date?
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I have no clue . But it's a real thing no doubt . Blocking always gets over emphasized only to relax a little as we roll forward with patterns. We joke every year " fear the NW trend" . But it's because we have been down that road over and over and over. the gfs for one has a cold northern stream bias. It loves to show big cold presses in the medium range only to let up in the short range. The euro in the past had a warm temp bias , but even the upgrade seems to have a cold bias now. So after rambling on and not answering your question lol I have no clue ....
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Thats what scares me about this situation honestly. When you tend to have models over emphasizing blocking and the strength of highs in the 3-5 day range, what is stopping the solution shown on the 0Z GFS from happening? We don't get the double barrel high we need to keep the low on a more southern miler A track and you end up getting a much more amplified miller B type scenario. Is there anything encouraging bias-wise that could prog the GFS as too relaxed?
I've been model watching since 2010/second year met student, but I honestly do not recall seeing this much diversity within a 48 hour model period.