Late December, yes. It's not even early December yet. That was pretty much the only long lasting December Arctic outbreak we've had since 2011.
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Wintry Nov 30-Dec 1 Flurries/Snow Showers
- Thread starter Six Mile Wx
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Here’s the 6z MMFS.. looks consistent with the 00z.
Dewpoint Dan
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Ive never heard of the MMFS model. Is it new ?
It’s my own model that I created and run. If you scroll back a little bit, I described the process earlier.
JLL1973
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CMC brought the goods to us here in the Midsouth
Too bad it’s the cmc and no other model agrees with it
Too bad it’s the cmc and no other model agrees with it
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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Euro seems to be much more juicy with the 2nd wave. Looks much further mother though
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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As opposed to the 00z run^
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CAD 
Yeah and the ULL is taking forever, but hey it’s a improvement CAD wise, bigly
Run is still so bad lol, rain and 50s, if you can somehow get a stronger SE Canada vortex were in business for CAD 
SWVAwxfan
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Columbia SC says hold my beer. Probably the worst place to live if you love winter weather.
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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It's always something. So tough to get snow around here . Before you know it we may have a severe weather outbreak
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Yep needs some cold air funneling in
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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Deleted member 609
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Mooresville gets something good pretty much every year. Try living south of 85.
I’ve seen worse. How much precip is left in East Tennessee/western NC when the cold core passes over head?
Well if there something + it’s the pressure pattern looking better ig, lol 
Long way to go no doubt. Could be rainy and 65 or snowy and 32. Euro is good, but not a fortune teller.
That is just ugly. You can't even see the 0° 850 line in central Canada. I take back what I said earlier about the 2nd week of Dec. There appears to be absolutely no cold source coming down. Smdh
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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Yeah you pretty much right. Northern Mooresville normally gets a couple inches more than me. I live more near davidson
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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Yeah doesn't look good at all. Lots of time to change though.
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Need the opposite with those waves, need a much stronger Canada vortex and a weaker wave, just don’t know it’s that possible given the bigger heights 
You are correct. Going on 7 years since anything significant here. Significant being an inch or more.
I’m in the blind. I have no idea what surface temps look like towards the end of the run.
Of course it’s marginal lol
I could see severe weather with this lol if we time a tilt right 
SWVAwxfan
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Or try living south of 20 in the SC midlands.
Dewpoint Dan
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To me it's not significant unless it's at least 3 inches. An inch or two is just a little dusting.
SWVAwxfan
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Trust us. 1 inch is significant for Columbia SC. Also Augusta GA.
This is why we suck: Typically you’d think we’d see snow with this look, but nope!
That's what living up north like you did will do to you.
Stephenb888
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I’m confused. I’m seeing posts saying the models look bad and it won’t be cold enough. Wasn’t the forecast supposed to be really cold beginning of December just days ago?
To us, below average is cold.
Its a furnace in Canada. Mid 20s at 7am. That massive PNA ridge may look pretty but it ain't gonna get it done. It needs to move west some, get taller and we need EPO help to get snow. Sure we're below average. But maybe I'm the minority but I say screw cold with no shot of snow.
Some, like me, are talking mainly about a general cold pattern. Others are more wintry precip focused, especially for their area. Some are talking about both. The discussions can be deceiving or confusing because they aren't all focused on the exact same thing,.
It is relative to average in the se. But its an all out torch in our cold air source. Not gonna cut it for snow.
Dewpoint Dan
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I am ok with cold without snow in December. It kind of sets the mood for Christmas. But come January I want it to be snowing if it's cold.
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Deleted member 609
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Lived in los angels... never even looked at weather because snow was impossible. I'd probably do the same south of 20 lol