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VegasEagle said:
I know of a few in town and four in my house
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Yeah , only racism I saw at the Trump rally ( mind you I’m not white either , not black though) which I went to with my 2 black friends , was from the handful of protestors that bothered to show up. They really , really , REALLY shamed my 2 black friends . We were walking with a large crowd as the rally began and all we hear is a black girl screaming “ COME BACK MY BLACK KINGS YOU ARE BEING MISLED” and on and on , entire crowds eyes is on us . A bit uncomfortable , though the crowd was more supportive and had a look like really ? Not those ugly protestors though.

That rally was good fun! Swear Trump rallies are just giant parties . Didn’t help it was on ECU campus , party central lol.
 
Shaggy said:
It's not yahoo news. That's the search engine. The article is from Business Insider.

Mr Brooks made some very bad decisions that night. There is no doubt there.

Maybe just maybe we have a cop with an itchy trigger finger though?

Most cops go their entire careers without using their service weapons and this cop uses his 3 times in 7 years and lied about it in one of the incidents!!?

That's gonna draw some serious scrutiny and it should.
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You a LEO? Ever been in that split second life or death situation?
 
Shaggy said:
They have some work to do in the libertarian party to get my vote this go round. I want someone who can at least get the 5% needed to get federal funding.

If they dont then it will boil down to Bidens VP pick.
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Who are you hoping he selects with the pick?
 
metwannabe said:
You a LEO? Ever been in that split second life or death situation?
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Nope. Doesnt change the cop previously.lied about shooting someone and that should matter not in the sense of the Brooks case but that he was even still allowed to be a cop to begin with.
 
Snowflowxxl said:
Also anyone who doesn't think Kamala Harris won't bring some crazy left wing ideology into the WH once she becomes president is crazy. I agree with most that Biden is more moderate that a lot of his fellow Dems, but he is just a temporary puppet to win the election. Once he gets that part accomplished he will be pushed aside and Harris will then go farrrrrrrrrrr left.
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Yeah to bad the current asshole in the WH is so bad that millions of people that would have supported the GOP cant do it.....when folks like Rain Cold consider 3rd party then the GOP is doing something wrong....

I have posted with Rain Cold for literally decades, same with guys like Shaggy, Poimen and MariettaWx and a few others......I have been as they can attest a conservative for all those years, I have been in the trenches on the old Eastern poli board and the new one at AMWX getting called all manner of names by the liberals over there. So make no mistake none of us a remotely what you would call a liberal ( well except Marietta he is a dirty liberal ) and most of us are also not supporting Trump....so if Biden wins it will be more because Trump is president and people want him gone than it will be people think Biden will be a good president. The GOP had a chance to remove Trump, to right the ship and they let it go by and now we will see how that works out for them.
 
Downeastnc said:
Yeah to bad the current asshole in the WH is so bad that millions of people that would have supported the GOP cant do it.....when folks like Rain Cold consider 3rd party then the GOP is doing something wrong....

I have posted with Rain Cold for literally decades, same with guys like Shaggy, Poimen and MariettaWx and a few others......I have been as they can attest a conservative for all those years, I have been in the trenches on the old Eastern poli board and the new one at AMWX getting called all manner of names by the liberals over there. So make no mistake none of us a remotely what you would call a liberal ( well except Marietta he is a dirty liberal ) and most of us are also not supporting Trump....so if Biden wins it will be more because Trump is president and people want him gone than it will be people think Biden will be a good president. The GOP had a chance to remove Trump, to right the ship and they let it go by and now we will see how that works out for them.
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Not sure why you felt the need to tell me that based on my post. Trump got more votes than both Romney and McCain, so just bc some of y’all decided not to vote GOP doesn’t mean he didn’t gain followers. He’s polling about the same as he did in 2016, so I don’t think he lost as many people as you expect. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets more overall votes than he did in ‘16 due to turnout.
 
Snowflowxxl said:
Not sure why you felt the need to tell me that based on my post. Trump got more votes than both Romney and McCain, so just bc some of y’all decided not to vote GOP doesn’t mean he didn’t gain followers. He’s polling about the same as he did in 2016, so I don’t think he lost as many people as you expect. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets more overall votes than he did in ‘16 due to turnout.
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The point was even if Harris is the VP pick many people who would normally vote conservative will vote Dem or at least 3rd party....it doesnt really matter to them who the VP is at this point we all just want Trump gone. Trump is losing independents like crazy, and a lot of the Dem support he had in the rust belt is swinging solidly back to Biden....Trump may get more overall votes but Biden will get a lot more than Hillary did and again this comes down to 5-6 states.....those states are going to decide the winner and Biden is up in most of them, especially when you look at the Dem primary where he had much more support versus Bernie and Warren than Hillary did, this indicates the Dems are favorable towards him and this should make it harder for Trump to get those crucial dem voters in WI/MI/PA....the GOP is outnumbered there so the only way Trump wins is the Dems somehow have low turnout ( not going to happen it will be the opposite ) or he manages to pull a lot of Dems again, which also seems less likely.

I seriously doubt Trump wins the popular vote in fact he will probably lose it by a even bigger margin....but in the end that doesnt matter, what matters is who wins WI/MI/PA/OH/NC/FL/AZ.....and in those states people like me and the others I mentioned will certainly have a impact....
 
Downeastnc said:
The point was even if Harris is the VP pick many people who would normally vote conservative will vote Dem or at least 3rd party....it doesnt really matter to them who the VP is at this point we all just want Trump gone. Trump is losing independents like crazy, and a lot of the Dem support he had in the rust belt is swinging solidly back to Biden....Trump may get more overall votes but Biden will get a lot more than Hillary did and again this comes down to 5-6 states.....those states are going to decide the winner and Biden is up in most of them, especially when you look at the Dem primary where he had much more support versus Bernie and Warren than Hillary did, this indicates the Dems are favorable towards him and this should make it harder for Trump to get those crucial dem voters in WI/MI/PA....the GOP is outnumbered there so the only way Trump wins is the Dems somehow have low turnout ( not going to happen it will be the opposite ) or he manages to pull a lot of Dems again, which also seems less likely.

I seriously doubt Trump wins the popular vote in fact he will probably lose it by a even bigger margin....but in the end that doesnt matter, what matters is who wins WI/MI/PA/OH/NC/FL/AZ.....and in those states people like me and the others I mentioned will certainly have a impact....
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I see what you were initially saying now, thanks for the clarification. I agree there is a less than 5% chance Trump wins the popular vote.

My point is that there was plenty of people like you in 2016 who said there was no way they could vote for a terrible human like Trump. They were going to write in or vote for Gary Johnson. Trump was goijg to lose all the independents because he was a bigot. We all see how that worked out. I agree with you though most people are not voting for Biden vs they are just really voting against Trump. My point is if he picks someone like Harris and she starts babbling her left wing agenda some of the FEW undecided ( how the hell is anyone undecided btw) could pivot.
 
I've heard conflicting stuff about Harris as the VP pick. One day I hear she's the frontrunner, then the next day someone says her record as a former prosecutor is a liability. This is all the proof you need to know of how divided the Democratic Party is at times. lol

Personally, I think it will be either Demings or the Atlanta mayor, but don't ask me to put real money on it. These VP picks almost never go how the experts predict.
 
Snowflowxxl said:
I see what you were initially saying now, thanks for the clarification. I agree there is a less than 5% chance Trump wins the popular vote.

My point is that there was plenty of people like you in 2016 who said there was no way they could vote for a terrible human like Trump. They were going to write in or vote for Gary Johnson. Trump was goijg to lose all the independents because he was a bigot. We all see how that worked out. I agree with you though most people are not voting for Biden vs they are just really voting against Trump. My point is if he picks someone like Harris and she starts babbling her left wing agenda some of the FEW undecided ( how the hell is anyone undecided btw) could pivot.
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I will give you that it would remove any real chance I vote for Biden, though again every day Trump says or does something that pushes me that much closer to just biting the bullet and taking my chances with Biden making it 4 yrs.....heck by the same token Trump might not go 4 yrs either there are signs he has some serious underlying issues as well. The video of him using two hands to drink water in that one clip instantly reminded me of my grandfather in his later stages of dementia and after a stroke destroyed his finer motor skills....
 
YetAnotherRDUGuy said:
I've heard conflicting stuff about Harris as the VP pick. One day I hear she's the frontrunner, then the next day someone says her record as a former prosecutor is a liability. This is all the proof you need to know of how divided the Democratic Party is at times. lol

Personally, I think it will be either Demings or the Atlanta mayor, but don't ask me to put real money on it. These VP picks almost never go how the experts predict.
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Deming is the best choice IMO given the current political landscape and issues with police reform....
 
Snowflowxxl said:
I see what you were initially saying now, thanks for the clarification. I agree there is a less than 5% chance Trump wins the popular vote.

My point is that there was plenty of people like you in 2016 who said there was no way they could vote for a terrible human like Trump. They were going to write in or vote for Gary Johnson. Trump was goijg to lose all the independents because he was a bigot. We all see how that worked out. I agree with you though most people are not voting for Biden vs they are just really voting against Trump. My point is if he picks someone like Harris and she starts babbling her left wing agenda some of the FEW undecided ( how the hell is anyone undecided btw) could pivot.
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That's odd. I actually thought she was more moderate than left wing, but to each their own. (when you say left wing, I think of more Bernie and Warren than Harris)

EDIT: On 2nd thought, I just looked up Harris' positions and admit I was mistaken. She's a bit more towards the left wing than moderate.
 
YetAnotherRDUGuy said:
I've heard conflicting stuff about Harris as the VP pick. One day I hear she's the frontrunner, then the next day someone says her record as a former prosecutor is a liability. This is all the proof you need to know of how divided the Democratic Party is at times. lol

Personally, I think it will be either Demings or the Atlanta mayor, but don't ask me to put real money on it. These VP picks almost never go how the experts predict.
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Yeah I say Demings to show law and order but also the racial aspect of law and order.
 
Serious question. How many of you would be ok with Hillary Clinton's AG firing the prosecutor investigating herself and her friends? I think in know the answer but how about it? Would you be ok with this move if it was a liberal?

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DOJ tries to oust US attorney investigating Trump allies

The Justice Department moved abruptly Friday night to oust Geoffrey S. Berman, the U.S. attorney in Manhattan overseeing key prosecutions of President Donald Trump’s allies and an investigation of his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. The standoff set off an extraordinary clash between the Justice...
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Downeastnc said:
Deming is the best choice IMO given the current political landscape and issues with police reform....
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Bham 99 said:
Yeah I say Demings to show law and order but also the racial aspect of law and order.
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Well gentleman, you seem to both be on the same page. (at least on this issue, lol)

Demings seems to....how do you say? 'check a lot of boxes.' While doing this does help, it by no means guarantee anything in politics. I seem to remember reading in 2008 how HC checked a lot of boxes, and she didn't even get the Dem nomination that year.. (Too bad that wasn't her last try, but that's a whole other rant entirely)

A month is a long time in politics nowadays. I wonder if another name out of nowhere shows up between now and then?
 
YetAnotherRDUGuy said:
Well gentleman, you seem to both be on the same page. (at least on this issue, lol)

Demings seems to....how do you say? 'check a lot of boxes.' While doing this does help, it by no means guarantee anything in politics. I seem to remember reading in 2008 how HC checked a lot of boxes, and she didn't even get the Dem nomination that year.. (Too bad that wasn't her last try, but that's a whole other rant entirely)

A month is a long time in politics nowadays. I wonder if another name out of nowhere shows up between now and then?
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Yeah I think the Atlanta mayor too controversial now maybe I'm wrong though
 
I'm only posting this because we were talking about it earlier not because I Take This as Gospel. It mentioned school choice and I actually never thought about it.. I would think that people in the inner city schools would want school choice.

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Trump campaign believes it can grow black vote despite protests - Washington Examiner

When President Trump takes the stage in Tulsa on Saturday for his first post-coronavirus live rally, 21 members of the Black Voices for Trump advisory board and four of the group’s co-chairs are scheduled to appear with him. This accounts for nearly half of the over 50 surrogates the Trump...
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Despicable.

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Stepmother of Atlanta cop in Rayshard Brooks shooting fired from her job

The stepmother of the Atlanta police officer who fatally shot Rayshard Brooks was fired from her job as human resources director at an Atlanta-based mortgage company for allegedly violating company policy and creating an uncomfortable working environment for fellow employees.
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Downeastnc said:
Yeah to bad the current asshole in the WH is so bad that millions of people that would have supported the GOP cant do it.....when folks like Rain Cold consider 3rd party then the GOP is doing something wrong....

I have posted with Rain Cold for literally decades, same with guys like Shaggy, Poimen and MariettaWx and a few others......I have been as they can attest a conservative for all those years, I have been in the trenches on the old Eastern poli board and the new one at AMWX getting called all manner of names by the liberals over there. So make no mistake none of us a remotely what you would call a liberal ( well except Marietta he is a dirty liberal ) and most of us are also not supporting Trump....so if Biden wins it will be more because Trump is president and people want him gone than it will be people think Biden will be a good president. The GOP had a chance to remove Trump, to right the ship and they let it go by and now we will see how that works out for them.
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lol I’m Mariettawx. Downeast is 100% correct about him being a conservative. He has been for as long as I’ve posted with him. I actually used to be a Republican voter. The tea party and then trump completely turned me off from them. I may one day support conservatives again but not until the republican banner looks a lot differently than it does under cheetodust.
and lol at “dirty liberal”
 
LithiaWx said:
lol I’m Mariettawx. Downeast is 100% correct about him being a conservative. He has been for as long as I’ve posted with him. I actually used to be a Republican voter. The tea party and then trump completely turned me off from them. I may one day support conservatives again but not until the republican banner looks a lot differently than it does under cheetodust.
and lol at “dirty liberal”
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Yeah I cant ever remember your new name half the time lol, your always MariettaWx to me, there are probably a dozen or so posters here that were around way back in 2005ish when I joined Eastern ( has it been 15 yrs yikes ).....the OG SE weather crew...I might even have seen a couple of you on the old Weather Channel forums or WWBB forums in the late 90's early 00's ....anyways you guys know who you are :)
 
More Friday night shenanigans from Trump and the DOJ....this is the office that is investigating Trump, Cohen, Guliani and his two buddies Parnas and Furman among other cases....Trump is trying to replace him with someone he can control and get to ditch all these cases...just another OOJ move by Trump....this is going to be a big deal.....

Apparently Barr announced this guys resignation without actually telling him he was resigning lol.....so this is not going as planned for team Trump....

abcnews.go.com

Berman relents, leaves post as US attorney after taking stand against firing

Attorney General Bill Barr offered Berman other positions, but he declined.
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Berman issued a statement late Friday saying he had no intention of taking the firing in stride.

"I learned in a press release from the Attorney General tonight that I was 'stepping down' as United States Attorney," he said. "I have not resigned, and have no intention of resigning, my position, to which I was appointed by the Judges of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. I will step down when a presidentially appointed nominee is confirmed by the Senate."

"Until then, our investigations will move forward without delay or interruption," he continued. "I cherish every day that I work with the men and women of this Office to pursue justice without fear or favor – and intend to ensure that this Office's important cases continue unimpeded."



Obviously Trump is trying to stack the deck in his favor....they dont even try to hide it lol




Remember this excerpt from Bolton's book....

.“Trump then told Erdoğan he would take care of things, explaining that the [New York] southern district prosecutors were not his people but were Obama people, a problem that would be fixed when they were replaced by his people,”
 
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I mean this stuff is obviously OOJ and bolsters some of Bolton's claims......they did this last night hoping Berman would roll over and this would get lost in all the Trump rally media frenzy that is sure to happen today.....

from reddit...

CNN reported tensions between Berman and Barr have heated up recently as the two men butted heads over the handling of some cases, including the department's indictment of the Turkish state-owned bank Halkbank. Turkey spent millions of dollars lobbying the White House, Congress, and the State Department to ask the Justice Department not to investigate the bank.

Former national security adviser John Bolton claimed in his upcoming book that Trump assured Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan that he would intervene to stop the SDNY's Halkbank investigation.
 
The folks on here begging for the GOP to nominate mainstream Republicans please look back at 2008 and 2012 and see how that worked out. I mean look even at the Dem side nominating Hillary in 2016 and Biden in 2020. Mainstream Washington insiders are not going to cut it these days.
 
snowlover91 said:
Cream of wheat looks like it’ll be changed and now Eskimo Pie. What’s next?

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Dreyer's Changing the Name of Eskimo Pies, Altering Marketing Scheme

“This move is part of a larger review to ensure our company and brands reflect our people values.'
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Boom! Called that the other day!

When are we going to stop standing by while these white supremacist executives remove all people of color from product branding? I don't see the same reaction to Marie Calendar or Paula Dean or Paul Newman or Little Debbie or Wendy's or Quaker Oats. Where's the outrage?!
 
Rain Cold said:
Headline on wral says "Protesters tear down part of state monument". Protesters dont tear things down and destroy stuff. That's called Rioting. We really are a sick society.

I'm not a Trump fan, but this liberal ideology hasn't done a thing to improve the lives of minorities. And nobody has an answer for that except to say, "But Trump".
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Everyone and I mean everyone was in complete agreement George Floyd's death was abuse of power and the officer should've been charged. We missed a golden opportunity to unify around that, instead its turned into a hate filled, broad brush everyone with a badge, free for all, lawless riot.
 
metwannabe said:
Everyone and I mean everyone was in complete agreement George Floyd's death was abuse of power and the officer should've been charged. We missed a golden opportunity to unify around that, instead its turned into a hate filled, broad brush everyone with a badge, free for all, lawless riot.
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Be careful now. You meant hate filled, broad brush everyone with a badge, free for all, lawless protest. ?
 
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