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So in your opinion everyone that wears a badge is an A-hole? You should be banned for life.... this is why I've all but walked away from this thread and almost this site
Calm down Karen. No, I shouldn’t be banned for life. Way too much overreaction to a benign post. I didn’t say they deserved it.
 
Calm down Karen. No, I shouldn’t be banned for life. Way too much overreaction to a benign post. I didn’t say they deserved it.
So calling me a racist just another "benign post"? Yeah... I got better things to do with my time.
 
Even CNN is saying the guy pointed the teaser at the officer. I'm like you, unless something big comes out I don't see how in the world the officers aren't aquited and then sues the city. However if you want to see a change in the number of cops out there, have a jury convict the officers without any other circumstances than what is on video. I don't know who would want to be a cop knowing you can't defend yourself when someone points your own taser at you.
Depends on how close he was when he pointed it. Most tasers do not shoot projectiles very far and have to make contact with the intended target.
The LEO's present would have known that. That will be a large part of the prosecutions case. I have not watched the video and am of the opinion that theft of the weapon was justification.
 
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Wow. Supreme Court (which is conservative) just ruled employee protection for all 50 states for those gay&lesbian. Talk about Trump changing his platform, it seems he wants the LGBTQ votes more than Biden&Clinton ever did. Source: NBC NEWS
 
Kinda surprised given how 2020 has been and with Trump in office. This one will go in the history books.
 
Quickly taking the #1 spot on Twitter. Bad news for Biden if Trump declares it his victory.
 
So in your opinion everyone that wears a badge is an A-hole? You should be banned for life.... this is why I've all but walked away from this thread and almost this site
Just a quick pop in and pop back out. I spent a week doing private security up in DC during the riots and I was disgusted by what I saw (and I have seen it all). You are getting ready to witness a transformation in the profession like you have never seen and I don't mean in a good way. I have trained LEO's across the pond and back home since leaving service and I can tell you without fail that our police force as a whole has never been better trained than they are now (with obvious exceptions of course). Your best cops are going to leave the profession in mass if this assault on them continues. The job is about to become even more dangerous than it already is due to the utter stupidity of the leadership in these progressive liberal cities and that does nothing but harm the innocent people who respect the police. Its going to be a chain reaction felt all across the country.
 
Hard to expect the moral to be anything but in the tank when you aren’t even backed by your own mayor.

And also not supported by any media outlets. I wouldn't have the darn job either. Hard to do the task at hand when you aren't supported by your local media, national media, and state/county politicians, and you're handcuffed by many regulations which make it much harder.
 
Hard to be a Cop right now.
Most people have no clue or even care to understand the mental difficulties they are experiencing. I saw some break down in DC and it ripped at my soul. Hard nosed cops too. Its a shame. Its difficult to even think about without getting pissed off. Its going to get worse and some folks in certain places are going to get an eye opening display of overbearing violence in the coming months
 
Hard to be a Cop right now.
And also not supported by any media outlets. I wouldn't have the darn job either. Hard to do the task at hand when you aren't supported by your local media, national media, and state/county politicians, and you're handcuffed by many regulations which make it much harder.

good, all of the cops who think they can do what they want can leave. Bye Felicia.
 
This may, no this is, one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever read.

sounds like a you problem. I can’t imagine who would want to give cops a green light to operate with no rules. Those regulations you seem to have a problem with are obviously needed.
Also cops don’t need atta boys from the media. If they do then they are in the wrong profession.
 
good, all of the cops who think they can do what they want can leave. Bye Felicia.

Imagine working as a cop, working your tail off and putting your life on the line every single day. You work not for the money but for the good of the community. Then this happens and you feel all alone because local leadership and the news media are portraying you as evil and racist. Just because cops are walking away doesn’t automatically mean they are bad/racist cops... more than likely you’re going to lose a lot of good cops because they have no one backing them and I can’t blame them one bit.
 
Imagine working as a cop, working your tail off and putting your life on the line every single day. You work not for the money but for the good of the community. Then this happens and you feel all alone because local leadership and the news media are portraying you as evil and racist. Just because cops are walking away doesn’t automatically mean they are bad/racist cops... more than likely you’re going to lose a lot of good cops because they have no one backing them and I can’t blame them one bit.

good cops won’t have a problem with oversight and regulation.
 
good cops won’t have a problem with oversight and regulation.

But they will have a problem when they are targeted for being a cop, have no backing from local leadership and are vilified by the news media. You completely missed my point, I said nothing about oversight and regulation being an issue.
 
Plenty of anti-Trump folks were requesting them and talking about it online. Just like other times they had rallies too. This isn't new.

Also saw that the Trump campaign was putting ads on Craigslist looking for minority actors for an event in Tulsa that could hold signs. Just like other Trump rallies asking for the same.
 
Plenty of anti-Trump folks were requesting them and talking about it online. Just like other times they had rallies too. This isn't new.

Also saw that the Trump campaign was putting ads on Craigslist looking for minority actors for an event in Tulsa that could hold signs. Just like other Trump rallies asking for the same.
I don’t think I’d be worried about Trump drawing a crowd, that’s a given. The problem is Biden can’t fill a school auditorium. Enthusiasm gap.
 
But they will have a problem when they are targeted for being a cop, have no backing from local leadership and are vilified by the news media. You completely missed my point, I said nothing about oversight and regulation being an issue.
He's just stirring the pot (is that the right phrasing, @LithiaWx ?). Nobody has made a case here, not that I've seen, that cops should operate without oversight and regulation. With the technology that exists today, that should be pretty easy. Cops shouldn't be targets, either from criminals, political systems, or from mobs or the media. They should be treated fairly and respected. But they should also be well-trained, subject to accountability, and held to a very high standard.

Anyone who has a position of authority with the ability to use deadly force against others should not be given free reign and be above the law themselves. But I don't think anyone here is suggesting this.

The notion of disbanding police departments is just plain dumb. Likewise, the notion of f the police is just plain dumb.

On a personal note, I'm grateful for people who choose to be police and protect our communities. Will there be some bad cops on the streets? You bet. But that will be the case with anything anywhere. They face pressures and situations that I will never know...and don't want to know. I am glad there are those willing to do it.
 
He's just stirring the pot (is that the right phrasing, @LithiaWx ?). Nobody has made a case here, not that I've seen, that cops should operate without oversight and regulation. With the technology that exists today, that should be pretty easy. Cops shouldn't be targets, either from criminals, political systems, or from mobs or the media. They should be treated fairly and respected. But they should also be well-trained, subject to accountability, and held to a very high standard.

Anyone who has a position of authority with the ability to use deadly force against others should not be given free reign and be above the law themselves. But I don't think anyone here is suggesting this.

The notion of disbanding police departments is just plain dumb. Likewise, the notion of f the police is just plain dumb.

On a personal note, I'm grateful for people who choose to be police and protect our communities. Will there be some bad cops on the streets? You bet. But that will be the case with anything anywhere. They face pressures and situations that I will never know...and don't want to know. I am glad there are those willing to do it.
Union's are a problem. Another problem is the emphasis put on diversity within many departments. There are people that have no business being in a high stress job because "numbers" have to be filled. Like I said before, training has never been better. Recruitment of qualified people is going to be an issue going forward. Its a mess....
 
But they will have a problem when they are targeted for being a cop, have no backing from local leadership and are vilified by the news media. You completely missed my point, I said nothing about oversight and regulation being an issue.
He's just stirring the pot (is that the right phrasing, @LithiaWx ?). Nobody has made a case here, not that I've seen, that cops should operate without oversight and regulation. With the technology that exists today, that should be pretty easy. Cops shouldn't be targets, either from criminals, political systems, or from mobs or the media. They should be treated fairly and respected. But they should also be well-trained, subject to accountability, and held to a very high standard.

Anyone who has a position of authority with the ability to use deadly force against others should not be given free reign and be above the law themselves. But I don't think anyone here is suggesting this.

The notion of disbanding police departments is just plain dumb. Likewise, the notion of f the police is just plain dumb.

On a personal note, I'm grateful for people who choose to be police and protect our communities. Will there be some bad cops on the streets? You bet. But that will be the case with anything anywhere. They face pressures and situations that I will never know...and don't want to know. I am glad there are those willing to do it.

the original post I responded to today discussed regulations. I was continuing from there. I’m not trying to stir a pot. I haven’t accused anyone of being a racist as was said earlier and I haven’t said all cops are bad. A lot of people are jumping to conclusions here.
 
the original post I responded to today discussed regulations. I was continuing from there. I’m not trying to stir a pot. I haven’t accused anyone of being a racist as was said earlier and I haven’t said all cops are bad. A lot of people are jumping to conclusions here.
Ok. It's hard to keep track of the jumpy information flow and distill the idea of a broken chain of comments sometimes.

Anyway, you just said a lot of things you aren't/weren't for. What would you be for?
 
Ok. It's hard to keep track of the jumpy information flow and distill the idea of a broken chain of comments sometimes.

Anyway, you just said a lot of things you aren't/weren't for. What would you be for?

banning choke holds, more training for officers, less use of deadly force.
 
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