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I never really thought much of it, I don’t even really believe there is a connection; but, I had a severe case of bronchitis in mid December that was so bad it forced me to go to the doctor. This came on about a week after I flew to Dallas and back. Probably unrelated, but gee whiz, who knows?
 
Poimen said:
I never really thought much of it, I don’t even really believe there is a connection; but, I had a severe case of bronchitis in mid December that was so bad it forced me to go to the doctor. This came on about a week after I flew to Dallas and back. Probably unrelated, but gee whiz, who knows?
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They have already studied the virus enough to know that with the way its genetic markers are, it would have been impossible for you to have had it then.
 
Poimen said:
I never really thought much of it, I don’t even really believe there is a connection; but, I had a severe case of bronchitis in mid December that was so bad it forced me to go to the doctor. This came on about a week after I flew to Dallas and back. Probably unrelated, but gee whiz, who knows?
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Me ,wife and daughter had same expierence from flying to NOLA right before christmas. Happened over hollidays. Makes you wonder
 
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25,000 Missing Deaths: Tracking the True Toll of the Coronavirus Crisis

At least 25,000 more people have died during the coronavirus pandemic over the last month than the official COVID-19 death counts report, a review of mortality data in 11 countries shows -- providing a clearer, if still incomplete, picture of the toll of the crisis.In the last month, far more people
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Not in the news yet but Wilkesboro Tyson chicken plant has a corona outbreak. Supervisors are notifying everyone today to be tested if they were around the confirmed people. It’s very republican here and Tyson is telling WXII12 they are not allowed to visit and will not be taking questions. Media attention could drag out the stay at home order so everything is being carefully considered to prevent media attention.
 
Can confirm corona outbreak at Tyson as it’s the largest employer here and I have immediate family who works there. Expect further chicken shortage esp near Wilkesboro which supplies most of the Carolinas. Including grocery stores and fast food places. As long as media stays away plans are to stay open for now. No employee will be given points for calling out which will further cause a shortage or delay of getting chicken to consumers.
 
BirdManDoomW said:
Can confirm corona outbreak at Tyson as it’s the largest employer here and I have immediate family who works there. Expect further chicken shortage esp near Wilkesboro which supplies most of the Carolinas. Including grocery stores and fast food places. As long as media stays away plans are to stay open for now. No employee will be given points for calling out which will further cause a shortage or delay of getting chicken to consumers.
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so send us all corona chicken ... no need to lock-down any longer ... just leave home, go about business, eat a bit, and die from processed yard bird flu ... :eek:
 
Temperature check caught the Wilkesboro Tyson worker from Gastonia but they are worried numerous workers are carrying it without a fever now.
 
Tyson Wilkesboro has always had a problem of having enough employees. So they bus people in from bigger cities which have a much higher corona count. It wasn’t long ago they hired a lot of refugees from a country bordering China but that was over 5 years ago.
 
This kind of thing worries me. A close family member works for Wrigley, and since chewing gum is apparently essential, they are open 24/7 producing. Several workers have tested positive, none in my family member's business unit, but the threat worries me. Especially when he could be asymptomatic and pass it on to higher risk family members.
 
BirdManDoomW said:
Can confirm corona outbreak at Tyson as it’s the largest employer here and I have immediate family who works there. Expect further chicken shortage esp near Wilkesboro which supplies most of the Carolinas. Including grocery stores and fast food places. As long as media stays away plans are to stay open for now. No employee will be given points for calling out which will further cause a shortage or delay of getting chicken to consumers.
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Well it truly sucks that has happened, it's not like that plant is the only Tyson chicken plant in the SE. There's one right downtown here. Supply will go down some, but Tyson is large enough to cover for most of it.
 
CamWX said:
Well it truly sucks that has happened, it's not like that plant is the only Tyson chicken plant in the SE. There's one right downtown here. Supply will go down some, but Tyson is large enough to cover for most of it.
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But they falling one by one. It’s been in the news over the past two weeks esp in Tennessee. It’s kinda weird Tyson plants are getting hit hard one after the other.
 
Yellow Snow said:
I seem to recall some folks here claiming that Gov. Kemp was some kind of lapdog for Trump. Not so much...

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‘Too soon,’ Trump says of Ga. plan to reopen economy; Kemp disagrees

President Donald Trump said Wednesday he “totally” disagreed with Gov. Brian Kemp’s decision to roll back coronavirus restrictions and allow shuttered businesses such as nail salons and barber shops to reopen this week.
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We’re already talking about this in political thread.
 
Shaggy said:
Nothing in genome studies verify that.
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Yeah, but I am not sold on the whole genome study yet. I think that the data just might be a bit tainted. There is some pretty good evidence to support that it was here much earlier than originally suspected. As I mentioned in an earlier post, my wife's side of the family had severe symptoms before Christmas (my brother-in-law was overseas and brought it back) My father-in-law died from it (Corona-like virus) back in January. Most in our family had the high fever and cough but I only felt really drained and had some muscle pain for a few days. That was it. I would be willing to bet that if I were to get tested, I would show immunity.
 
Dewpoint Dan said:
12,000 deaths to go and it should be over. Unless they have increased their projections of 60,000 dying ?
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Projections are just best guesses. We keep adding 25k new cases a day and if 15% of them continue needing advanced care we will continue to see deaths running this high for several more days if not weeks.
 
Cad Wedge NC said:
Yeah, but I am not sold on the whole genome study yet. I think that the data just might be a bit tainted. There is some pretty good evidence to support that it was here much earlier than originally suspected. As I mentioned in an earlier post, my wife's side of the family had severe symptoms before Christmas (my brother-in-law was overseas and brought it back) My father-in-law died from it (Corona-like virus) back in January. Most in our family had the high fever and cough but I only felt really drained and had some muscle pain for a few days. That was it. I would be willing to bet that if I were to get tested, I would show immunity.
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There should be antibody testing widely available.
 
Steven_1974 said:
They have already studied the virus enough to know that with the way its genetic markers are, it would have been impossible for you to have had it then.
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Earlier this evening, I had a conversation with my son (who is an MD) and he told me that he had tested positive for Covid19 antibodies. He is a very healthy 31 yr old who works out and runs several times a week. He was suspicious of a respiratory infection he had before Christmas. He and his wife took a long weekend trip to NYC Dec 6-9. About a week after he got back he started coughing and running a low grade fever. He told me he felt very fatigued and the cough got worse. He went and got tested for the flu and it was negative. The 3rd night he was showing symptoms, he woke up and said the felt like he couldn't get air in his lungs. He said he almost had his wife drive him to the ER but didn't. 24 hrs later his fever broke and he felt much better and started resuming normal activities. He said his cough lingered for about 3 weeks.

He had told me a month ago in a conversation, that he was volunteering to work with the critical Covid patients in Austin TX (where he lives). He intubates them when they can no longer breathe on their own. I told him I was proud of him for his courage and compassion but concerned about his exposure. He told me that he actually thought he might have been exposed and contacted it after he got back from NYC in December and told me the story I related above. He found out the positive antibodies test yesterday, so it looks like he did. His wife never showed any symptoms. He was around his wife's parents after coming back from NYC and his father-in-law got a bad respiratory infection a few days after my son did and his symptoms lasted nearly 2 weeks before he got better. He is going to go get tested for Covid antibodies soon.
 
All these anecdotal stories should be heard BUT it's hard for me to believe that such a highly contagious virus with high levels of hospitalizations and deaths simmered for 3 months undetected without death and hospitalized people showing up in higher numbers. Especially when coupled with the genome sequencing.

It's a hard sell.
 
ghost1 said:
Earlier this evening, I had a conversation with my son (who is an MD) and he told me that he had tested positive for Covid19 antibodies. He is a very healthy 31 yr old who works out and runs several times a week. He was suspicious of a respiratory infection he had before Christmas. He and his wife took a long weekend trip to NYC Dec 6-9. About a week after he got back he started coughing and running a low grade fever. He told me he felt very fatigued and the cough got worse. He went and got tested for the flu and it was negative. The 3rd night he was showing symptoms, he woke up and said the felt like he couldn't get air in his lungs. He said he almost had his wife drive him to the ER but didn't. 24 hrs later his fever broke and he felt much better and started resuming normal activities. He said his cough lingered for about 3 weeks.

He had told me a month ago in a conversation, that he was volunteering to work with the critical Covid patients in Austin TX (where he lives). He intubates them when they can no longer breathe on their own. I told him I was proud of him for his courage and compassion but concerned about his exposure. He told me that he actually thought he might have been exposed and contacted it after he got back from NYC in December and told me the story I related above. He found out the positive antibodies test yesterday, so it looks like he did. His wife never showed any symptoms. He was around his wife's parents after coming back from NYC and his father-in-law got a bad respiratory infection a few days after my son did and his symptoms lasted nearly 2 weeks before he got better. He is going to go get tested for Covid antibodies soon.
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Sounds just like what happened in my family at Christmas except we had a death as a result. (see post above)
 
Shaggy said:
All these anecdotal stories should be heard BUT it's hard for me to believe that such a highly contagious virus with high levels of hospitalizations and deaths simmered for 3 months undetected without death and hospitalized people showing up in higher numbers. Especially when coupled with the genome sequencing.

It's a hard sell.
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There were deaths....... it just wasn't counted as Corona deaths.
 
Shaggy said:
All these anecdotal stories should be heard BUT it's hard for me to believe that such a highly contagious virus with high levels of hospitalizations and deaths simmered for 3 months undetected without death and hospitalized people showing up in higher numbers. Especially when coupled with the genome sequencing.

It's a hard sell.
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Yeah I agree with this. It's almost like you have to also accept that very few people get critically ill until the virus infects a million people. Then, we finally start to see people needing medical care.
 
Cad Wedge NC said:
There were deaths....... it just wasn't counted as Corona deaths.
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Shouldn’t we see excess deaths going back months then? But I don’t think we do.

I had a pretty bad sickness at the beginning of February that had some Coronavirus-esque symptoms, the worst sickness I’ve had in years, but I don’t think it was likely it. I wouldn’t say it wasn’t impossible, but it seems a little early in the timeline to me. Probably just a bad cold.
 
ghost1 said:
Earlier this evening, I had a conversation with my son (who is an MD) and he told me that he had tested positive for Covid19 antibodies. He is a very healthy 31 yr old who works out and runs several times a week. He was suspicious of a respiratory infection he had before Christmas. He and his wife took a long weekend trip to NYC Dec 6-9. About a week after he got back he started coughing and running a low grade fever. He told me he felt very fatigued and the cough got worse. He went and got tested for the flu and it was negative. The 3rd night he was showing symptoms, he woke up and said the felt like he couldn't get air in his lungs. He said he almost had his wife drive him to the ER but didn't. 24 hrs later his fever broke and he felt much better and started resuming normal activities. He said his cough lingered for about 3 weeks.

He had told me a month ago in a conversation, that he was volunteering to work with the critical Covid patients in Austin TX (where he lives). He intubates them when they can no longer breathe on their own. I told him I was proud of him for his courage and compassion but concerned about his exposure. He told me that he actually thought he might have been exposed and contacted it after he got back from NYC in December and told me the story I related above. He found out the positive antibodies test yesterday, so it looks like he did. His wife never showed any symptoms. He was around his wife's parents after coming back from NYC and his father-in-law got a bad respiratory infection a few days after my son did and his symptoms lasted nearly 2 weeks before he got better. He is going to go get tested for Covid antibodies soon.
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Why wouldn't the antibody test give him a positive for an exposure much sooner than December though considering the work he's doing?
 
Dewpoint Dan said:
12,000 deaths to go and it should be over. Unless they have increased their projections of 60,000 dying ?
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The curve will flatten and daily deaths should hopefully near and hit 0, but a second wave is almost certain. So it’s not just going to be “over”. The president keeps saying, with authority, that the second wave may not even happen and coronavirus “may not come back”....ANY physician and ANY healthcare professional knows that’s not likely. What’s likely is Coronavirus comes back, along with flu, during the flu season in the fall and winter. The reality will be tracking two epidemics at once.

Anyone assuming we are going to all of a sudden just be dealing with flu alone in ~7 months time is either uneducated to misinformed. One of the two.
 
Jon said:
The curve will flatten and daily deaths should hopefully near and hit 0, but a second wave is almost certain. So it’s not just going to be “over”. The president keeps saying, with authority, that the second wave may not even happen and coronavirus “may not come back”....ANY physician and ANY healthcare professional knows that’s not likely. What’s likely is Coronavirus comes back, along with flu, during the flu season in the fall and winter. The reality will be tracking two epidemics at once.

Anyone assuming we are going to all of a sudden just be dealing with flu alone in ~7 months time is either uneducated to misinformed. One of the two.
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Jon,
I gave you a "thank you" ... now I'd like to say as much ... Thank You!
Phil
 
Steven_1974 said:
Why wouldn't the antibody test give him a positive for an exposure much sooner than December though considering the work he's doing?
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There was something about the antibody test that said it wasn't a recent exposure... he didn't explain that and I'll ask him about that the next time we talk.
 
Shaggy said:
All these anecdotal stories should be heard BUT it's hard for me to believe that such a highly contagious virus with high levels of hospitalizations and deaths simmered for 3 months undetected without death and hospitalized people showing up in higher numbers. Especially when coupled with the genome sequencing.

It's a hard sell.
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Exactly.

None of the stories about Covid being here in December are valid. The stories themselves are true and believable, but ILI (influenza like illness) runs rampant during flu season. It’s likely a lot of these stories were either the flu or a common cold. Everyone and their mom seems to have a “I got sick in December or January” story...that’s because a large portion of the population gets a cold during the fall and winter months! A lot of it is coincidence.

Our flu season in NC wasn’t anything substantial compared to other years, I’ve seen worse. I think I would have seen a lot of upper respiratory illness in January and I didn’t. I didn’t see many people even coughing. This season was pretty average. We had ILI peak at 6% this year Feb 8-22, in our severe seasons are around 10% ILI.
 
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