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Downeastnc said:
Opening up eating establishments is like lighting the fuse on a stick of dynamite.....those places are major germ transfer locations and even with increased measured one or two asymptomatic infected servers can infect dozens of people per shift.....the good news for other states is we get to watch a few weeks and see if GA crash and burns....so thanks for taking one for the team :)
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I'm not going to any of these places anytime soon. However, one concern I do have is that someone who helps me out with my disabled/high risk older bro (this valued person is actually a very longtime paid employee of my bro and he's very kind/like a friend to us), loves to bowl in a league every day in normal times and bowled up til the alleys were closed, which was making me nervous then. My hope is that either the alleys here won't open or, if they do, that he decides not to bowl.
 
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The US set a record high for deaths reported today (granted, Tuesdays are deceptive because of the weekend lag effect). Hopefully, this is the peak.....
 
Downeastnc said:
Impossible pretty sure I have been told DOZENS of times this is not as bad or deadlier than the flu.....I mean remember all the other times they had to use mass graves in NYC to handle all the unclaimed dead from the flu, or the dozens of refrigerator trucks behind the morgue to hold all the flu dead…..oh yeah me either.....

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As has been previously established, not all of the recently deceased being buried on Hart Island are victims of Covid - unless you believe Mayor de Blasio is a liar; in that case I could hardly fault you.

"These are people who no one after a period of time has claimed them, and not just COVID victims, but victims of all diseases, all reasons for fatality"

www1.nyc.gov

Transcript: Mayor de Blasio Holds Media Availability on COVID-19

Transcript: Mayor de Blasio Holds Media Availability on COVID-19
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GaWx said:
I'm not going to any of these places anytime soon. However, one concern I do have is that someone who helps me out with my disabled/high risk older bro (this valued person is actually a very longtime paid employee of my bro and he's very kind/like a friend to us), loves to bowl in a league every day in normal times and bowled up til the alleys were closed, which was making me nervous then. My hope is that either the alleys here won't open or, if they do, that he decides not to bowl.
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Larry,
You do have the option of "drawing a line" with this person. If he's that close to you he'll abide. Otherwise, better to know now.
Phil
 
pcbjr said:
Larry,
You do have the option of "drawing a line" with this person. If he's that close to you he'll abide. Otherwise, better to know now.
Phil
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Yes, I'm hoping he'll abide based on his closeness to us. But when the alleys closed, he was visibly dejected. He's been bowling almost daily for many, many years. So, I'm not sure what he'll do or if he'll secretly go back to bowling. Since this is outside of the work sphere, I don't think we can actually stop him.
 
GaWx said:
Yes, I'm hoping he'll abide based on his closeness to us. But when the alleys closed, he was visibly dejected. He's been bowling almost daily for many, many years. So, I'm not sure what he'll do or if he'll secretly go back to bowling. Since this is outside of the work sphere, I don't think we can actually stop him.
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Offer him a 3 month membership on your ticket, revocable at will if you find out otherwise - no bowling for the next 2 months ... or buy him a video game ...
 
Yellow Snow said:
As has been previously established, not all of the recently deceased being buried on Hart Island are victims of Covid - unless you believe Mayor de Blasio is a liar; in that case I could hardly fault you.

"These are people who no one after a period of time has claimed them, and not just COVID victims, but victims of all diseases, all reasons for fatality"

www1.nyc.gov

Transcript: Mayor de Blasio Holds Media Availability on COVID-19

Transcript: Mayor de Blasio Holds Media Availability on COVID-19
www1.nyc.gov
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Right but they went from averaging 25 burials a week to over 100 a week.....because of Covid.....
 
Downeastnc said:
Opening up eating establishments is like lighting the fuse on a stick of dynamite.....those places are major germ transfer locations and even with increased measured one or two asymptomatic infected servers can infect dozens of people per shift.....the good news for other states is we get to watch a few weeks and see if GA crash and burns....so thanks for taking one for the team :)
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A lot of our local restaurants have stated they will still just do take out until things are safer. They weighed the risks and found it better to wait. That’s what we all have to do.
 
What's done is done however America is also a place where people have the right to question actions that are or were taken; especially as more and more data has been accumulated related to actual infection and death rates.

In the end it may turn out the population at most risk should've been properly protected and the entire country shouldn't have been shut down.

There will be time for those discussions and analyzations..
 
LetItSnow said:
Nothing to see here; except more and more preliminary results from studies underway are showing the actual infection rate to be substantially higher than currently reported thus the probable death rates are substantially lower than currently reported.

Time will tell; the truth does find a way to surface..

ktla.com

Up to 442,000 people in L.A. County may have already had coronavirus, antibody study estimates

Hundreds of thousands of Los Angeles County residents may have been infected with the coronavirus at some point, even without showing any symptoms, according to preliminary test results from an ant…
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Even if it is that many folks, that would mean no more than 5% of the population had it.
 
Interesting
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Recovered, almost: China's early patients unable to shed coronavirus

Dressed in a hazmat suit, two masks and a face shield, Du Mingjun knocked on the mahogany door of a flat in a suburban district of Wuhan on a recent morning. A man wearing a single mask opened the door a crack and, after Du introduced herself as a psychological counsellor, burst into tears...
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Some disturbing videos out of Ecuador of bodies everywhere, don't know if it's appropriate to post them but wondering if anyone has seen them?
 
Heelyes said:
Some disturbing videos out of Ecuador of bodies everywhere, don't know if it's appropriate to post them but wondering if anyone has seen them?
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Yeah. I posted an article a few days ago saying there could be as many as 20k dead. One region sees an average of 2000 a month and in March they saw 16k+
 
My mother in law is a doctor and her clinic had 50 positive cases from the chicken plant yesterday. I don't see how it stays open much longer.
 
The people working in these plants are only paid sick leave if they test positive. Tests are hard to get and if you stay home because you feel sick you are replaced. This is a bad situation for these people, they are working in confined spaces with many workers.
 
Meat processing plants all over the country are closing and a major disruption in the supply chain is coming. Don't be surprised if there are shortages at the store soon if something isn't done to correct this issue.
 
Heelyes said:
Meat processing plants all over the country are closing and a major disruption in the supply chain is coming. Don't be surprised if there are shortages at the store soon if something isn't done to correct this issue.
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I saw that Iowa sent the national guard to a plant. Not sure what they will do though.
 
Heelyes said:
Meat processing plants all over the country are closing and a major disruption in the supply chain is coming. Don't be surprised if there are shortages at the store soon if something isn't done to correct this issue.
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Hopefully they can rotate out sick people with healthy unemployed people.
 
Arcc said:
People need to wait before saying such things because the economic storm is just beginning. If it proves to be handled, next year one can say such things.
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No doubt. There are thousands of small businesses which have had to liquidate because they didn't have enough resources to ride out the various lockdowns; and it's unlikely many of them will ever be able to come back. That has a ripple effect among the vendors who supplied and serviced these businesses, which impacts businesses who rely on those vendors, and so on down the line...
 
Steven_1974 said:
Why would you add in anyone else? The numbers are the numbers and would extrapolate to everyone.
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Because the article and study notes adults. If they just did the test on adults, you have to assume a lot of them had kids which werent tested.

team from the University of Southern California and the county’s public health department tested a random sample of 863 county residents earlier this month, finding that around 2.8% to 5.6% of them already had the antibodies in their blood, the county’s public health director Dr. Barbara Ferrer announced.

This translates to an estimated 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county
who may have been infected with COVID-19 at some point before April 9 — a much higher number than the 13,816 cases confirmed by the health department as of Monday.
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