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NC has had 400 new cases today. The Governor is supposed to announce tomorrow what our next steps will be. Should be interesting.
 
Has anyone been able to find a freezer on the market? With a lot of meat plants shutting their doors I wanna freeze some food when I find it on sale. Best Buy usually has them for $150 but sold out.
 
Jon said:
The curve will flatten and daily deaths should hopefully near and hit 0, but a second wave is almost certain. So it’s not just going to be “over”. The president keeps saying, with authority, that the second wave may not even happen and coronavirus “may not come back”....ANY physician and ANY healthcare professional knows that’s not likely. What’s likely is Coronavirus comes back, along with flu, during the flu season in the fall and winter. The reality will be tracking two epidemics at once.

Anyone assuming we are going to all of a sudden just be dealing with flu alone in ~7 months time is either uneducated to misinformed. One of the two.
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Yeah...makes you wonder if it might just be best to go for the herd immunity solution long-term....are we just delaying the inevitable? But I’m no epidemiologist.
 
superjames1992 said:
Yeah...makes you wonder if it might just be best to go for the herd immunity solution long-term....are we just delaying the inevitable? But I’m no epidemiologist.
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I heard on the radio the other day that we have never successfully created a vaccine for a coronavirus. I'm not sure how much we've tried but I don't think it will happen in time. If it does, who knows how effective it will be.
 
EmersonGA said:
I heard on the radio the other day that we have never successfully created a vaccine for a coronavirus. I'm not sure how much we've tried but I don't think it will happen in time. If it does, who knows how effective it will be.
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It sounds like they were making good progress for SARS in 2003, but then the virus went away so they had no longer a need to make one.
 
I have tried to go to Lowe’s twice this week, both times I saw a parking lot that was full and no employees guarding the entrances/counting customers entering the store. I simply turned around and left both times.

By contrast, I went to Wal-Mart yesterday, where they are limiting the number of patrons, and had quite possibly the most pleasant Wal-Matt experience ever.

Is Lowe’s operating in defiance of the latest N.C. restrictions?
 
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Poimen said:
I have tried to go to Lowe’s twice this week, both times I saw a parking lot that was full and no employees guarding the entrances/counting customers entering the store. I simply turned around and left both times.

By contrast, I went to Wal-Mart yesterday, where they are limiting the number of patrons, and had quite possibly the most pleasant Wal-Matt experience ever.

Is Lowe’s operating in defiance of the latest N.C. restrictions?
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Considering it's to be their best month ever for the last 2 months, Probably.
 
Interesting addendum to my earlier post: I just walked out of Lowe’s (far less busy today because of the rain). Anyway, I walked past two employees talking about a co-worker who was just sent home because “he had body aches and a bad cough and felt really bad.”
 
Poimen said:
Interesting addendum to my earlier post: I just walked out of Lowe’s (far less busy today because of the rain). Anyway, I walked past two employees talking about a co-worker who was just sent home because “he had body aches and a bad cough and felt really bad.”
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I literally just said to my wife yesterday "I'll run into lowes during (kid's) nap." Not today 'Rona!
 
Assuming we do get a vaccine eventually, I have a nagging feeling that it's going to be like the flu vaccine where you have to predict the genotypes for the season and as we know, that's hit and miss.

Now, after I posted that Debbie Downer thing, it'd be better to have one than to not and if I get to do what I want to (its turning out to be a major if) I'll need both this vaccine and the flu vaccine.
 
People are saying they have heard Gov. Cooper is going to expand the shelter in place. Anyone heard the same?
He’s going to rule up some folks if he does.
 
Poimen said:
People are saying they have heard Gov. Cooper is going to expand the shelter in place. Anyone heard the same?
He’s going to rule up some folks if he does.
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What would expanding it entail? Lessening how many businesses are considered "essential"?
 
packfan98 said:
I think he may have meant extending (not expanding) the shelter in place order. There’s a model that came out earlier in the week saying that the earliest NC should start to lift restrictions was May 10th.
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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I expect it to be extended until at least mid-May, personally. And that’s probably for the best. Then we can start opening things up and see what happens around mid-May, hopefully.
 
NC extended till May 8th. Cooper wants a downward trend of Symptoms, Cases, and hospitalizations for 14 days before his restrictions lesson. Basically the White House recommendations.

Mandy Cohen showed that NC's trends are still rising, so we can go ahead and kick that May 8th further down the road.
 
Yea May 8th ain’t happening for NC. It’s just now starting to develop in Wilkes and surrounding areas with cases. Maybe June.
 
Ollie Williams said:
This is just for phase 1, it was estimated that it would take 90 days before things get back to normal.
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90 Days!

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Reading Coopers reopening plan...phase 1 is essentially what we are doing now. Phase 2 is where some noticeable actual changes would be...and based on his timeline that isn’t until June, 5+ weeks. This will be a death knell to any small businesses holding out hope to survive. I know, tough decision. With Cooper, I can’t imagine schools opening up in the fall, colleges included.
 
Cooper’s plan looks pretty close to the White House plan. Looks pretty good to me. Maybe May 8th will be the last extension of the shelter in place order needed, although I’m not holding my breath. Even once it’s lifted, though, things will not be normal for a while. And I worry we’ll be right back in this situation next winter.
 
Breaking from the WH briefing today...lines up with what I said early on about virus susceptibility to heat and how summer could help virus suppression or slowing of the virus transmission.

This is DHS science and technology division research.

“Summer-like conditions, are going to create a condition, where transmission is decreased”

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Gonna be very interesting to see how this plays out.

But now, the country's chief epidemiologist said the strategy appears to be working and that "herd immunity" could be reached in the capital Stockholm in a matter of weeks.

"In major parts of Sweden, around Stockholm, we have reached a plateau (in new cases) and we're already seeing the effect of herd immunity and in a few weeks' time we'll see even more of the effects of that. And in the rest of the country, the situation is stable," Dr. Anders Tegnell, chief epidemiologist at Sweden's Public Health Agency, told CNBC on Tuesday.

Tegnell said sampling and modeling data indicated that 20% of Stockholm's population is already immune to the virus, and that "in a few weeks' time we might reach herd immunity and we believe that is why we're seeing a slow decline in cases, in spite of sampling (testing for the coronavirus) more and more."
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www.cnbc.com

Sweden resisted a lockdown, and its capital Stockholm is expected to reach 'herd immunity' in weeks

Sweden went against the grain by keeping public life as unrestricted as possible when the coronavirus hit. Now, it says its strategy appears to be working.
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Arcc said:
Gonna be very interesting to see how this plays out.




www.cnbc.com

Sweden resisted a lockdown, and its capital Stockholm is expected to reach 'herd immunity' in weeks

Sweden went against the grain by keeping public life as unrestricted as possible when the coronavirus hit. Now, it says its strategy appears to be working.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
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Sweden may be a model for the rural and suburban communities of the United States, but the urban areas will likely need to stay locked down for the entire year.
 
Not happy with cooper at all, he should have opened up. nation , this state cant survive closed .

Terrible decision on his part, also with south carolina opening up and nc staying closed wonder if sc gets a boon in business because of nc patrons.
 
Looks like that’s it folks for stimulus. McConnell said he will try his best to block anymore stimulus that creates more debt.
 
I was hoping for additional relief for May but they want to reopen parts of the country instead to help the economy.
 
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