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Wintry Winter Storm Dec 7-10

Didn't know where to post this but could one of you guys answer this?

So 850 temps are below zero as shown right here

namconus_T850_seus_29.png


And sfc temps are in the 30s yet it shows rain on the radar

namconus_ref_frzn_seus_28.png


Probably a dumb question considering its the NAM but shouldn't it be showing more snow?
Probably either a warm layer above 850, or the rates are not enough to overcome the boundary layer
 
NAM still looking good for a couple of inches here. Can't complain.
Slash totals by 50%. Gets you to an inch. Take another 50% away because it's the NAM beyond 36 hrs. Subtract another 30% for more melting through the column than we think. A few flakes flying mixed with rain is a win in early Dec, if you ask me. Can't complain about that!
 
Slash totals by 50%. Gets you to an inch. Take another 50% away because it's the NAM beyond 36 hrs. Subtract another 30% for more melting through the column than we think. A few flakes flying mixed with rain is a win in early Dec, if you ask me. Can't complain about that!
Euro looked better. I mean, I know you're usually pessimistic anyway and being snarky. Whatever.
 
Man... it's COLD and rainy outside. Just some small flakes mixed with rain. I can see how from here leading into Friday could be a most excellent setup. Besides, NWS Atl has set the table... We will see, y'all! :)
 
Didn't know where to post this but could one of you guys answer this?

So 850 temps are below zero as shown right here

namconus_T850_seus_29.png


And sfc temps are in the 30s yet it shows rain on the radar



Probably a dumb question considering its the NAM but shouldn't it be showing more snow?

There may be warmer air aloft above 850 hPa, it's always a good idea to check the entire depth of the troposphere rather than just looking at one level but the NAM also doesnt distinguish between rain, vs rain/snow which is probably what's falling at that time
 
I'm a newby here too but In my opinion the line between snow and rain on the NAM has been pretty consistent maybe a shift north here or there with the total system but the line has been pretty consistent
 
Euro looked better. I mean, I know you're usually pessimistic anyway and being snarky. Whatever.

I'm dead serious. I would love to see some flakes flying around in early December, even if they're mixed with the rain. There aren't going to be inches of snow on the ground in Raleigh, most likely. It will probably snow for a little bit, but that's probably about it. Realistic.
 
Light sleet for the past few minutes in Smyrna, GA. Actually fairly noisy hitting the leaves on the ground.
 
The way you came off with that post was sarcastic and snarky. I was hoping to leave that behind at the other board.
You just get too emotional about snow to allow rational discussion to seem like anything other than pessimism and snark. If you want to hug the map with the highest snow totals, that's fine. Whatever is cool with me. I am optimistic that we'll see some flakes, but I am not optimistic that Raleigh will see any accumulation. Anyway, it's not a point worth getting beaten up over. Enjoy the Euro map.
 
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