Pattern The Great December Dump

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AL best chance would be the overrunning threat early next week. the second threat (Friday) looks to be confined to the Carolinas (for now). As webber mention we need it to slow down and begin separation from that pesky northern stream.
Some on the gefs members has some fozen mix in Alabama, I believe only because cold air moving in quicker and the storm slowing down. Also couple of frames showing back side snow, but it all will change for better or worse
 
Didn't the GFS have a pretty bad problem with overdoing things like this last year when it was the Fv3? Did that ever get resolved before it went into operation? Been gone awhile trying to see if things have been addressed.
 
Didn't the GFS have a pretty bad problem with overdoing things like this last year when it was the Fv3? Did that ever get resolved before it went into operation? Been gone awhile trying to see if things have been addressed.


long range yes. But this is inside 100hrs. Our SW is coming onshore this is a classic time for a trend like this as our SW is coming into focus.

if we get 12z support from Gefs and gfs again then this is most likely legit. Euro would seal the deal.
 
Didn't the GFS have a pretty bad problem with overdoing things like this last year when it was the Fv3? Did that ever get resolved before it went into operation? Been gone awhile trying to see if things have been addressed.

When the core was implemented several months ago, The algorithms were corrected on the current version of the GFS. However, it has been noted the cold bias the GFS has it outputted more then 5days out.
 
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Looks like the hp hit a wall and didn’t move east enough to establish any cold so temps are in the low 40’s to start the event. But finally temps get cold enough and frozen precip is showing up.
 
FWIW: The ICON has a similar look to the GFS with respects to the position of the high; it's just lacking the initial moisture over the SE. All in all, not bad trends if you like ice in the Carolina Piedmont. It would be nice to see the EURO shift to the GFS.