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Pattern The Great December Dump

I think the euro is also hunting at other things near the end of its run.. clearly more ridging near Alaska and that PV is way further east than previous runs

Really that look at 216hrs isn’t far from becoming good in the following time. If that ridge northwest of AK would retrograde toward the pole and force the PV south along with a stronger low near the Aleutians, it could become a really good look.
 
What makes me skeptical of this is how snow happy the gefs was with the current system on the long/medium range, and slowly caved to the EPS, EPS sorta won with this system we’re dealing with in the southeast right now
EURO and EPS both had snow for this current system as well. I honestly can't remember who had it last but all globals had it inside of 240. What's really sad it there in no snow within 500 miles on the EURO at the end of the run. Not even Snowshoe WV. Prime climo and poop.

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EURO and EPS both had snow for this current system as well. I honestly can't remember who had it last but all globals had it inside of 240. What's really sad it there in no snow within 500 miles on the EURO at the end of the run. Not even Snowshoe WV. Prime climo and poop.

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Flip to the control and flip to the 3rd, then look. There's only snow in the mountains but still there's at least something.
 
EURO and EPS both had snow for this current system as well. I honestly can't remember who had it last but all globals had it inside of 240. What's really sad it there in no snow within 500 miles on the EURO at the end of the run. Not even Snowshoe WV. Prime climo and poop.

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Reason why I said that was because the gefs had a small but non negligible snow mean in the mountains/foothills/western piedmont and still had it while everything else was mostly showing all rain, it was on a island for about 4 runs
 
Reason why I said that was because the gefs had a small but non negligible snow mean in the mountains/foothills/western piedmont and still had it while everything else was mostly showing all rain, it was on a island for about 4 runs
Yea, I was getting hopeful when the EPS had about 40% of members with something close but quit looking when it lost it.
 
North trend starts now lol
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That’s quite a snow storm in Florida out of all places.


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If it wasn't obvious how bad this model is before, then this just proves it. Gives northern Florida more snow than I've had in the last 4 years combined, LOL. This model is a total embarrassment to the weather community.
 
I would absolutely love to see a snowstorm slam FL and the GA coast even if it meant everyone else missed out. Phil and Larry deserve it.
You are far too kind ... but frankly, I'd rather see one from Dallas to just a good bit tad south of Ocala (just to make sure) all the way to Roanoke Rapids ... for everyone ... but ... and I can't speak for Larry ... but ... I'll take whatever God gifts me, this winter , and next, and the ones after that ... (and Larry likely would agree with me on that one) ... ;)
 
GEFS still supports something funny happening around the New Years .. hopefully we can squeeze something out there if the stars align
 
That's just weird to look at you don't see that very often. I like it.

Yeah, even this kind of thing (a modeled deep SE/coastal snowstorm) isn't seen too often. Usually no more than a couple of times a winter at most even on the drunk GFS. But to see it modeled blizzardlike like this with this very strong low winding up? You can go years in between something like this just being modeled just once.

How often has something like this actually occurred (deep SE/coastal near blizzard) including N FL? It would be a once a multidecadal type storm or even rarer than that. It does kind of look like a more wound up version of 1989. Looking at history for windy, blizzardlike storms with several inch+ accumulations way down in the deep SE/coast including N FL, 12/1989, 2/1899, and 1/1800 are the ones that first come to mind. The great 1/1922 and 2/1914 ZR/IP storms were NOT this wound up (unless I'm remembering the maps wrong) and they didn't quite reach into JAX/GNV. 2/1973 did give JAX a little bit but it wasn't this wound up.

Edit: 1/2018 wasn't this wound up and only barely gave JAX/GNV a little ZR I think.

Edited for correction: 2/1914 and 1/1922 were NOT this wound up per my memory of looking at old maps
 
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