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Presidential Election 2024

Downeastnc said:
Trump is struggling...women will prevent a wannabe dictator from getting in office.

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That doesn't look as good for Kamala as you think.

Another way to look at it, Kamala's votes have been largely exhausted whereas Trump still has plenty more votes in the tank...
 
NorthDFWwx said:
That doesn't look as good for Kamala as you think.

Another way to look at it, Kamala's votes have been largely exhausted whereas Trump still has plenty more votes in the tank...
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A failure to realize how much of a lead trump has with male voters on election day.
 
Arcc said:
Oh I don’t know, the one where they actually forced churches to close during Covid.

Oh I don’t know, the one where they were a couple of SC Justices away from having you fired if you didn’t get a Covid shot?
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They never threatened to get me fired if I didn't get a shot. They closed everything during covid not just churches.
 
I work in the financial industry and I can tell you that the numbers you see are not reflective of the difficulty facing a growing number of people and communities, particularly on the lower rungs of the ladder.

Employment rates, jobless claims, cpi, etc are changed and/or spun to help push forward a narrative. They don't tell an accurate story of real life.

If you look around and see more homelessness, more division, more fear, more concern about safety, and more anger (and when we objectively look around, we are seeing those things increase), those are empirical markers of economic stress.

So don't try and tell me we are on the right track economically or prosperity-wise. If we were, you wouldn't see such high levels of discontent that are becoming an increasingly destabilizing factor in our society.
 
It is more difficult to read the tea leaves this year than ever with such a close election and so many differing sources of information. If you held a gun to my head I think Harris will win in a close and controversial election that will have our country in turmoil for years afterwards. I am casting my vote for Trump because I agree with his platform on policy issues more times than not and I hope he wins. It's going to be hard for Trump to get one of the three blue wall states he needs if all else goes to plan.
 
Shaggy said:
They never threatened to get me fired if I didn't get a shot. They closed everything during covid not just churches.
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That is because the conservative SC slapped it down quickly.

Secondly, yes they did close everything, but the right to assemble and practice religion is actually a constitutional right.

But, you know all this.
 
Rain Cold said:
I work in the financial industry and I can tell you that the numbers you see are not reflective of the difficulty facing a growing number of people and communities, particularly on the lower rungs of the ladder.

Employment rates, jobless claims, cpi, etc are changed and/or spun to help push forward a narrative. They don't tell an accurate story of real life.

If you look around and see more homelessness, more division, more fear, more concern about safety, and more anger (and when we objectively look around, we are seeing those things increase), those are empirical markers of economic stress.

So don't try and tell me we are on the right track economically or prosperity-wise. If we were, you wouldn't see such high levels of discontent that are becoming an increasingly destabilizing factor in our society.
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How is Donald trumps plans of 10-20% tariffs across the board and 60% for China and more tax breaks for the ones not struggling going to make life easier for those struggling?
 
Rain Cold said:
I work in the financial industry and I can tell you that the numbers you see are not reflective of the difficulty facing a growing number of people and communities, particularly on the lower rungs of the ladder.

Employment rates, jobless claims, cpi, etc are changed and/or spun to help push forward a narrative. They don't tell an accurate story of real life.

If you look around and see more homelessness, more division, more fear, more concern about safety, and more anger (and when we objectively look around, we are seeing those things increase), those are empirical markers of economic stress.

So don't try and tell me we are on the right track economically or prosperity-wise. If we were, you wouldn't see such high levels of discontent that are becoming an increasingly destabilizing factor in our society.
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There is a serious issue with housing costs and post-covid inflation is hitting the lower income parts the hardest as mentioned. Younger voters will lean more towards a more stable economy and those that work to a real solution. Unfortunately neither candidate addresses the who of the housing cost issue source properly.
 
Shaggy said:
How is Donald trumps plans of 10-20% tariffs across the board and 60% for China and more tax breaks for the ones not struggling going to make life easier for those struggling?
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How is Harris' plan of crashing the stock market and the economy by taxing unrealized gains going to make life easier for those struggling?
 
weather bubba said:
It is more difficult to read the tea leaves this year than ever with such a close election and so many differing sources of information. If you held a gun to my head I think Harris will win in a close and controversial election that will have our country in turmoil for years afterwards. I am casting my vote for Trump because I agree with his platform on policy issues more times than not and I hope he wins. It's going to be hard for Trump to get one of the three blue wall states he needs if all else goes to plan.
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I agree with you. I'm a Trump supporter but I think Kamala wins in a very close Election. Probably 270-268. And yes there will a lot of turmoil afterwards.
 
Shaggy said:
Asked you first
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That's what I thought. The threat of tariffs is often all you need. Besides, I remember you whining about the same thing the first go-round, and we did pretty well economy-wise, didn't we?

Now answer my question.
 
Rain Cold said:
That's what I thought. The threat of tariffs is often all you need. Besides, I remember you whining about the same thing the first go-round, and we did pretty well economy-wise, didn't we?

Now answer my question.
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No I asked you first. His tariffs caused us to have to bail out farmers, it did nothing to bring jobs back to the US as companies just sourced stuff from Vietnam, India, Taiwan and so on. His threats of even more and larger tariffs will destroy the economy which is booming despite your claims.

In fact all.the numbers you credit trump for woth a great economy are better under Biden than they were with trump.
 
Shaggy said:
No I asked you first. His tariffs caused us to have to bail out farmers, it did nothing to bring jobs back to the US as companies just sourced stuff from Vietnam, India, Taiwan and so on. His threats of even more and larger tariffs will destroy the economy which is booming despite your claims.

In fact all.the numbers you credit trump for woth a great economy are better under Biden than they were with trump.
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So how will Harris' unrealized g/l tax help? You're voting for her, so you must like and support it.

And by the way, we've been bailing out and subsidizing farmers for decades.

And the average man on the street would probably disagree with you about being in better shape under Biden than under Trump.
 
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