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Presidential Election 2024

Rain Cold said:
So how will Harris' unrealized g/l tax help? You're voting for her, so you must like and support it.

And by the way, we've been bailing out and subsidizing farmers for decades.

And the average man on the street would probably disagree with you about being in better shape under Biden than under Trump.
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Again, the average man on the street would disagree primarily because we're paying more at the grocery store and for gas. But, again, speaking on the metrics by which we measure the economy...it's quite strong. As always, some don't benefit from that great economy, same as when we had a pretty solid economy under Trump.

Harris unrealized tax plan won't actually come to fruition. It has merits in what it's trying to accomplish but needs fleshed out and be more detailed. But, you act like it is impacting the "average man" but it only applies only to individuals with at least $100 million in wealth who do not pay at least a 25% tax rate on their income
 
WNC_Fort said:
Again, the average man on the street would disagree primarily because we're paying more at the grocery store and for gas. But, again, speaking on the metrics by which we measure the economy...it's quite strong. As always, some don't benefit from that great economy, same as when we had a pretty solid economy under Trump.

Harris unrealized tax plan won't actually come to fruition. It has merits in what it's trying to accomplish but needs fleshed out and be more detailed. But, you act like it is impacting the "average man" but it only applies only to individuals with at least $100 million in wealth who do not pay at least a 25% tax rate on their income
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The bolded is all that matters for the sake of voting...
 
WNC_Fort said:
Again, the average man on the street would disagree primarily because we're paying more at the grocery store and for gas. But, again, speaking on the metrics by which we measure the economy...it's quite strong. As always, some don't benefit from that great economy, same as when we had a pretty solid economy under Trump.

Harris unrealized tax plan won't actually come to fruition. It has merits in what it's trying to accomplish but needs fleshed out and be more detailed. But, you act like it is impacting the "average man" but it only applies only to individuals with at least $100 million in wealth who do not pay at least a 25% tax rate on their income
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Why is everyone laying off workers, and then why are so many stores and restaurants closing up? It's because we are in horrible economy that in reality, no one can fix.
 
All of the public polling is done/worthless now.

Internal polling, that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, has leaked out enough recently for me to know Trump easily wins.

These newspaper, get paid to survey, and news channel polls have always been crap.

Every single one of them is within the margin of error. Hell, CNN's last poll have a 9 point margin of error.

Trump is internally leading in the following:

NC
VA
NH
GA
MI
WI
WITHIN 3 IN MINNESOTA
NV
AZ
WITHIN 1.5 IN NEW MEXICO
WITHIN 0.5 IN VIRGINIA

The surprising thing is Minnesota. Not even ragean got that one. But internal polls are consistently making it a close one if they're still underestimating Democrats switching to Trump.
 
WNC_Fort said:
Again, the average man on the street would disagree primarily because we're paying more at the grocery store and for gas. But, again, speaking on the metrics by which we measure the economy...it's quite strong. As always, some don't benefit from that great economy, same as when we had a pretty solid economy under Trump.

Harris unrealized tax plan won't actually come to fruition. It has merits in what it's trying to accomplish but needs fleshed out and be more detailed. But, you act like it is impacting the "average man" but it only applies only to individuals with at least $100 million in wealth who do not pay at least a 25% tax rate on their income
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Unfortunately, economic metrics and indicators do not vote. And as I said, they don't paint an accurate picture. The man on the street is not just being impacted at the grocery store.

Also, it is not just individuals that make more than $100 million. It's companies, institutions, and other entities as well. Those with $100 million or more are going to be forced to sell stocks, real estate, and other assets. If you would like to draw up a perfect scenario for a market and economic crash, then this is it.

If you want to stand on the argument that it'll never happen, that's fine. In that case, I'll make the same argument about the extreme Trump tariffs.
 
Rain Cold said:
Unfortunately, economic metrics and indicators do not vote. And as I said, they don't paint an accurate picture. The man on the street is not just being impacted at the grocery store.

Also, it is not just individuals that make more than $100 million. It's companies, institutions, and other entities as well. Those with $100 million or more are going to be forced to sell stocks, real estate, and other assets. If you would like to draw up a perfect scenario for a market and economic crash, then this is it.

If you want to stand on the argument that it'll never happen, that's fine. In that case, I'll make the same argument about the extreme Trump tariffs.
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Wouldn't the unrealized gains kill the Day/Swing trading too? Or do they have to already be millionaires?
 
$alt said:
All of the public polling is done/worthless now.

Internal polling, that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, has leaked out enough recently for me to know Trump easily wins.

These newspaper, get paid to survey, and news channel polls have always been crap.

Every single one of them is within the margin of error. Hell, CNN's last poll have a 9 point margin of error.

Trump is internally leading in the following:

NC
VA
NH
GA
MI
WI
WITHIN 3 IN MINNESOTA
NV
AZ
WITHIN 1.5 IN NEW MEXICO
WITHIN 0.5 IN VIRGINIA
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Which internal poll shows him ahead in MI and WI. Where is PA?
 
One thing I heard today that I had not heard was that when Trump did the tax cuts he enabled it to where people that got paid child support did not get taxed on it since it was already taxed once from the person that paid child support. I had never heard that before,that's pretty good.
 
$alt said:
All of the public polling is done/worthless now.

Internal polling, that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, has leaked out enough recently for me to know Trump easily wins.

These newspaper, get paid to survey, and news channel polls have always been crap.

Every single one of them is within the margin of error. Hell, CNN's last poll have a 9 point margin of error.

Trump is internally leading in the following:

NC
VA
NH
GA
MI
WI
WITHIN 3 IN MINNESOTA
NV
AZ
WITHIN 1.5 IN NEW MEXICO
WITHIN 0.5 IN VIRGINIA

The surprising thing is Minnesota. Not even ragean got that one. But internal polls are consistently making it a close one if they're still underestimating Democrats switching to Trump.
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Yeah I wish I had more access to internal polling.
 
severestorm said:
Which internal poll shows him ahead in MI and WI. Where is PA?
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I have no idea any specifics of who did/does the polling.

What I know is it's polling with minimal margin of error and it's very expensive to where the big boys don't usually have the actual data either.

For example. Nate Silver thinks all the public polling is using recycled data to keep the race close. He doesn't think every one of these polls coming out could realistically be a coin flip like they continued to be.
 
Iceagewhereartthou said:
While they're at it they can give the democrats whatever else they want; more taxes, more restrictions on personal firearms, less school choice, more race division, no borders, free everything for anyone who wants it, sex changes for kids and illegal persons, etc; just to make sure they can still get elected.

No... better to stand for principles and lose then give in and say you've won.
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Agree 100%
 
Bham 99 said:
One thing I heard today that I had not heard was that when Trump did the tax cuts he enabled it to where people that got paid child support did not get taxed on it since it was already taxed once from the person that paid child support. I had never heard that before,that's pretty good.
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You heard that but did you prove that it was real?
 
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