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Shaggy said:
Well think about why you dont mention him in a positive light. Doing so apparently brings out negative feelings in the people around you. If there was so much silent support for him wouldnt you be getting less negative feedback by mentioning his name? Seems to me the fact you cant mention him without people hating tells me lots more people wont be voting for him in November.
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Nah. It just we live in cancel culture now where everyone thinks they are woke.
 
Downeastnc said:
This cant be stated enough, and Trump barely won, I mean by a total of 78k votes spread over 3 states is really the only difference between President Trump and President Hillary. So in order for Trump to repeat he has to hold those three states where Biden did WAY better than Clinton did in the primaries against Bernie....
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Biden was about to lose easily to Bernie before all the other Dems got scared about the possibility of Bernie being the nominee and dropped out. Biden was getting 4th/5th place in the first few states.
 
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said:
And we are over reporting whereas other countries especially China way under reporting.
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Over reporting hahahahahahahahahaha. Numerous states and our president have literally tried to everything they could to stall case counts and keep them low.

We didnt even start testing enough until 3 to 4 weeks ago.

Do yall really believe some of this stuff yall post?
 
There’s no doubt these polls are bad for Trump. Do polls matter well they will when the debates start. So if the numbers don’t change after the first debate I’d be concerned. If Biden wins I’d truly be concerned for America and very embarrassed to say I live in a country that supported the first dementia President.


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Shaggy said:
Some polls that are discussed in this article are bad news for trump. It is a surprisingly straight forward article without much opinion and just numbers and polls. I know yall will cry about the source but the data is what is important.
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The source is apparently solid and rated as an A+, so one of the best pollsters. Considering they had Clinton up 7 nationally in 2016 and winning Pennsylvania by the same margin, they are far from perfect though. Regardless being down 14 points as an incumbent is not ideal. Luckily for Trump there is a ton of undecideds he’s probably lost, but he can still swing them his way.
 
Snowflowxxl said:
The source is apparently solid and rated as an A+, so one of the best pollsters. Considering they had Clinton up 7 nationally in 2016 and winning Pennsylvania by the same margin, they are far from perfect though. Regardless being down 14 points as an incumbent is not ideal. Luckily for Trump there is a ton of undecideds he’s probably lost, but he can still swing them his way.
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The thing about snake oil salesmen are that they are usually REALLY GOOD at selling snake oil.
 
Shaggy said:
Over reporting hahahahahahahahahaha. Numerous states and our president have literally tried to everything they could to stall case counts and keep them low.

We didnt even start testing enough until 3 to 4 weeks ago.

Do yall really believe some of this stuff yall post?
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This is just one example of many. Research is good, I know it’s hard to do my friend.
 

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Shaggy said:
The thing about snake oil salesmen are that they are usually REALLY GOOD at selling snake oil.
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I mean Trump was polling in the high 30s all throughout the summer of 2016, and for people to come home. I feel we are likely at his low point right now. For Biden not to be above 50% with Trump acting like he has the last month should at least give him some hope he can make it competitive again.
 
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said:
This is just one example of many. Research is good, I know it’s hard to do my friend.
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You know why........because trump was too stupid and slow and completely screwed up the early response to this. So while other countries were testing anyone that wanted it we had stupid restrictions on who we would test.......only to find out we didnt even have test to give.

Give you a prime example. My SIL got it back early on in the outbreak in March. Her co-worker and her husband had been to Atlantic city prior to the lockdowns. The woman and her husband both got covid and the husband ended up on a vent.

A week later my SIL falls sick. She calls the hotline and is told there are no tests at the moment and to isolate for 14days as she is "presumed positive" because of her close contact.

The failure to have tests available early means thousands of cases have gone unrecorded.
 
Snowflowxxl said:
I mean Trump was polling in the high 30s all throughout the summer of 2016, and for people to come home. I feel we are likely at his low point right now. For Biden not to be above 50% with Trump acting like he has the last month should at least give him some hope he can make it competitive again.
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Theres no doubt it will be competitive. Biden ain't Hillary so whereas I would never under any circumstance have voted for er crooked ass inwill consider Biden with the right VP pick.
 
Shaggy said:
Theres no doubt it will be competitive. Biden ain't Hillary so whereas I would never under any circumstance have voted for er crooked ass inwill consider Biden with the right VP pick.
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Yep I think we agree on the election side of things. I think it will be far more competitive than current polling, but definitely give Biden the edge due to being a far more likable candidate than Hillary. I think this election would have been a real nail biter had COVID19 never happened.
 
Shaggy said:
You know why........because trump was too stupid and slow and completely screwed up the early response to this. So while other countries were testing anyone that wanted it we had stupid restrictions on who we would test.......only to find out we didnt even have test to give.

Give you a prime example. My SIL got it back early on in the outbreak in March. Her co-worker and her husband had been to Atlantic city prior to the lockdowns. The woman and her husband both got covid and the husband ended up on a vent.

A week later my SIL falls sick. She calls the hotline and is told there are no tests at the moment and to isolate for 14days as she is "presumed positive" because of her close contact.

The failure to have tests available early means thousands of cases have gone unrecorded.
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Totally missed the point. Your initial post was saying the rest of the world was far less positive than the US. Places like China have underreported so bad. It’s so comical that you want to blame Trumps response in March when at that time the WHO and Faucci were saying it’s nothing to fear. Gotta open your eyes.
 
Snowflowxxl said:
Yep I think we agree on the election side of things. I think it will be far more competitive than current polling, but definitely give Biden the edge due to being a far more likable candidate than Hillary. I think this election would have been a real nail biter had COVID19 never happened.
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Biden’s edge comes from the fact that he was the VP for the first black president of the USA. That’s his clout. I don’t think anyone “likes” him.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Biden’s edge comes from the fact that he was the VP for the first black president of the USA. That’s his clout. I don’t think anyone “likes” him.
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Yea I don’t think anyone likes him, but also nobody hates him either. 80% of Biden voters won’t be voting for him bc they think he will be a good president, they are doing so bc they want Trump out. Biden’s incredibly poor primary performance before the DNC blessed him shows that he doesn’t have organic support.
 
Snowflowxxl said:
Yep I think we agree on the election side of things. I think it will be far more competitive than current polling, but definitely give Biden the edge due to being a far more likable candidate than Hillary. I think this election would have been a real nail biter had COVID19 never happened.
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I think so to. It may still be a nailbiter. Biden is likeable but not very energetic.

Trump is and always will be his own worst enemy.

I know my wife for example bought into his message in 2016. She swore he would change and was only acting that way to get votes and that once in office he would shift......that never happened so now my wife has bailed on him and will not vote for him again.
 
Um, Trump jumped on this thing for those that have forgotten. It was Nancy Pelosi saying "come on down to China, there's nothing to worry about, this is just Trump spreading fear". NY Governor calls Covid a Trump hoax, then changes his tune. It was the dems making joke of this when it initially hit.
 
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said:
Totally missed the point. Your initial post was saying the rest of the world was far less positive than the US. Places like China have underreported so bad. It’s so comical that you want to blame Trumps response in March when at that time the WHO and Faucci were saying it’s nothing to fear. Gotta open your eyes.
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Not only were they saying there's nothing to fear, they were urging people to come to parades, gathering sites, even Pelosi told people to "come to China".
 
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said:
Totally missed the point. Your initial post was saying the rest of the world was far less positive than the US. Places like China have underreported so bad. It’s so comical that you want to blame Trumps response in March when at that time the WHO and Faucci were saying it’s nothing to fear. Gotta open your eyes.
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You responded with a screenshot of them saying to count probable cases. They give strict guidelines as to who to count as probable cases. I gave you a firsthand experience of someone who was not given a test but had close personal contact with a positive case.

Do you believe the "research" that's actual cases may be 80 times higher than currently reported?
 
Shaggy said:
You responded with a screenshot of them saying to count probable cases. They give strict guidelines as to who to count as probable cases. I gave you a firsthand experience of someone who was not given a test but had close personal contact with a positive case.

Do you believe the "research" that's actual cases may be 80 times higher than currently reported?
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Oh absolutely I believe that. Antibody tests continue to show a significant number of positives. Which in turn the mortality rate is less than 1%.
 
Avalanche said:
Um, Trump jumped on this thing for those that have forgotten. It was Nancy Pelosi saying "come on down to China, there's nothing to worry about, this is just Trump spreading fear". NY Governor calls Covid a Trump hoax, then changes his tune. It was the dems making joke of this when it initially hit.
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Nancy Pelosi is on video walking through China Town shaking hands and kissing babies ??
 
I was behind Bubba up until this point but now I think this is bunch of bullcrap.

For one thing, Bubba wasn't even the person who first saw the noose to double down and change your story and now say you know for certain it definitely was even in 2019 (which begs the question why didn't you say this earlier), and then after the FBI investigation found nothing, he definitely comes across as someone just trying to push a narrative, get a reaction out of people, and draw attention to himself rather than get the facts straight. Don't get me wrong, I 100% believe there is a problem with racism in the US, especially in the part of the US where Talladega is located, but this definitely aint it chief.

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Webberweather53 said:
I was behind Bubba up until this point but now I think this is bunch of bullcrap.

For one thing, Bubba wasn't even the person who first saw the noose to double down and change your story and now say you know for certain it definitely was even in 2019 (which begs the question why didn't you say this earlier), and then after the FBI investigation found nothing, he definitely comes across as someone just trying to push a narrative, get a reaction out of people, and draw attention to himself rather than get the facts straight. Don't get me wrong, I 100% believe there is a problem with racism in the US, especially in the part of the US where Talladega is located, but this definitely aint it chief.

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Even Don Lemon, the extremist who has been excusing rioting, had a tone of “wtf is he smoking” during this interview.
 
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Blue_Ridge_Escarpment said:
Under reporting I’m talking about is knowingly not releasing positive test results which we know China did. I think you’re thinking of under testing.
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No. You said we were "over reporting" when @Heelyes said we are 4% of global pop and 25% of cases......this gives the impression you think we are over reporting so that we have higher cases than we really do. You followed that up by screenshoting something that pertains to counting probable cases.
 
Shaggy said:
No. You said we were "over reporting" when @Heelyes said we are 4% of global pop and 25% of cases......this gives the impression you think we are over reporting so that we have higher cases than we really do. You followed that up by screenshoting something that pertains to counting probable cases.
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Two separate things though. Over reporting yes if we are counting probable cases without tests being performed. If antibody studies are performed showing covid in the system, that’s one thing but just saying because Suzie had sniffles for 5 mines oh she’s positive, that’s over reporting.
 
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