Political Thread

[Sandbar]

I love how you always tell me how I am thinking or that I am somehow not rooted in reality.....my emotions dont overtake me, I do not understand why you think people judging Trump on his character make them emotional, its just odd. I can easily see positives, Trumps negatives greatly outweigh them though....I could just as easily say your emotions have overtaken you ability to see the negative and harmful things Trump is doing to the nation......see how that works. However I think you do see the negative you just dont care...

I am just a old school neocon, small government, strong state, free market kind of conservative....to many conservatives nowadays like to spend money and dont about debt, hell Trump is raising the debt faster than practically anyone else ever.

When have you EVER had small government? I can make this easy for you....NEVER. Reagan grew the government too. Hell I wish we could get control of debt to. How are you going to do that? Let me guess, cut wasteful spending? Love the idea but its a complete farce. We have been getting screwed by other countries for decades on trades. Trump has worked tirelessly to put us first. I know several farmers down east. Mostly pig farmers. They absolutely love Donald Trump. I just don't see where your hatred comes from man.

I don't really care how many times you cut and paste an article trying to rebuke anything I say about how great things are going. Our military is beyond happy, the farmers I know are happy, small business owners are happy. These are people I interact with everyday. If things arent good down your way man I frankly just don't see anybody making you happy. If the rising debt is really that big of a concern to you on the list of issues, you are going to be greatly disappointed in the future.

 

[Henry2326]

Heres a headline in the Washington Post today lol.

CNN's Don Lemon and guests mock Trump supporters as uneducated and illiterate
by Mike Brest
| January 28, 2020 07:59 AM

Thats me. Now Ill be the first to admit despite my college degree and some common sense, I surely am not,nor claim to be one of the brightest out there. But this is par for the course. The Dems/Liberal Socialist movement think folks like me are the biggest threat to life the way they think it should be. I voted for Trump, Beleive in the Bible and regard it as the absoloute truth.
Folks like me have no business making a choice on who should and shouldnt lead our country. They(Dems) are more educated and know whats best for people like me. To them I should never be allowed to decide who and what policies,laws should be governing us.

HA....what better way to confirm a vote than to insult a person.....

 

[Shaggy]

Heres a headline in the Washington Post today lol.

CNN's Don Lemon and guests mock Trump supporters as uneducated and illiterate
by Mike Brest
| January 28, 2020 07:59 AM

Thats me. Now Ill be the first to admit despite my college degree and some common sense, I surely am not,nor claim to be one of the brightest out there. But this is par for the course. The Dems/Liberal Socialist movement think folks like me are the biggest threat to life the way they think it should be. I voted for Trump, Beleive in the Bible and regard it as the absoloute truth.
Folks like me have no business making a choice on who should and shouldnt lead our country. They(Dems) are more educated and know whats best for people like me. To them I should never be allowed to decide who and what policies,laws should be governing us.

Yeah that's pretty ridiculous.

 

[Flurry]

Just as dangerous as it may be to assume those who don't like Trump are either socialist or support it, it's also just as dangerous to assume those who voted for him are racist, homophobic bigots.... names many of us who did vote for him have heard. It's really why there is such a sharp divide in this country, it's not Trumps fault, it's how each individual reacts to his personality, his policies, his speech, etc. Both sides are guilty of reacting and overreacting in such a way that causes the sharp divisiveness. But I'll be honest, being considered a racist because of who I voted for is down right insulting.... judging individuals entirely on one election cycle, what has happened?

I don't believe I've ever seen the country this polarized...It's really disheartening

 

[ForsythSnow]

Heres a headline in the Washington Post today lol.

CNN's Don Lemon and guests mock Trump supporters as uneducated and illiterate
by Mike Brest
| January 28, 2020 07:59 AM

Thats me. Now Ill be the first to admit despite my college degree and some common sense, I surely am not,nor claim to be one of the brightest out there. But this is par for the course. The Dems/Liberal Socialist movement think folks like me are the biggest threat to life the way they think it should be. I voted for Trump, Beleive in the Bible and regard it as the absoloute truth.
Folks like me have no business making a choice on who should and shouldnt lead our country. They(Dems) are more educated and know whats best for people like me. To them I should never be allowed to decide who and what policies,laws should be governing us.

Washington examiner. It's a conservative paper actually, not like WaPo. This seems to be more of an inflammatory approach which is just more problems for media these days. It's a shame that all it's become is who can trash who the most. And if some here say that trumps retoric should be ignored, apply the same standard to people like this.

CNN’s Don Lemon and guests mock Trump supporters as uneducated and illiterate - Washington Examiner

CNN's Don Lemon and two guests on his show are facing backlash after they mocked President Trump's supporters and depicted them as uneducated. Lemon was joined by New York Times columnist and CNN contributor Wajahat Ali and GOP strategist Rick Wilson during his show Saturday night to discuss the...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Rosie]

Washington examiner. It's a conservative paper actually, not like WaPo.

CNN’s Don Lemon and guests mock Trump supporters as uneducated and illiterate - Washington Examiner

CNN's Don Lemon and two guests on his show are facing backlash after they mocked President Trump's supporters and depicted them as uneducated. Lemon was joined by New York Times columnist and CNN contributor Wajahat Ali and GOP strategist Rick Wilson during his show Saturday night to discuss the...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

And so trump has to call him stupid.

 

[RBR71]

Washington examiner. It's a conservative paper actually, not like WaPo. This seems to be more of an inflammatory approach which is just more problems for media these days. It's a shame that all it's become is who can trash who the most. And if some here say that trumps retoric should be ignored, apply the same standard to people like this.

CNN’s Don Lemon and guests mock Trump supporters as uneducated and illiterate - Washington Examiner

CNN's Don Lemon and two guests on his show are facing backlash after they mocked President Trump's supporters and depicted them as uneducated. Lemon was joined by New York Times columnist and CNN contributor Wajahat Ali and GOP strategist Rick Wilson during his show Saturday night to discuss the...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

True it was the Examiner but it does not take away from what was said and done... here is the full clip. Down right insulting but Trump and his supporters are the "childish" ones.

 

[RBR71]

And so trump has to call him stupid.

Actually he called him "the dumbest man on television", not too far off.... I mean if you are going to go on and on insulting Trump, his supporters, middle America as they did in the video clip. Yeah he and anyone else at CNN that allowed this go on is pretty dumb.

 

[ForsythSnow]

True it was the Examiner but it does not take away from what was said and done... here is the full clip. Down right insulting but Trump and his supporters are the "childish" ones.

I'm not trying to defend him. Him insulting Trump supporters is not okay. However, if people who support trump are enraged about those statements, those who Trump has insulted have every right to feel the same way. There's way too many double standards put in play that force people to "Pick a side and stick with it no matter what" in politics today that it's hurting how our nation views itself. Both sides are childish. Its our duty as Americans to call out both sides even if its our own if they walk their dirt over our constitution and people. If we don't we'll keep giving the extreme sides the spotlight. That's why we have media hosts and Trump insulting each other and the people who support them. It's why we have Trump in the first place and why people on the left support Bernie and Warren.

 

[NCSNOW]

To me its such a Black N White issue today between the 2 choices. NO GREY AREA.
Im sincere, Eitheir you choose Capitalism, Our Constitution @ Democracy OR you choose Pragmatic Socialism that beleives our constitution needs to be revised, changed.
Its very plain going forward what the Republican Party Platform supports and what the Democrat Party Platform supports. Everyone is entitled to stand up,vote ,speak out to the one they value and Candidate who represents their values.

When people say polotics are to polarizing nowadays, they are correct. The reason is you have fundamental differences coming against each other. Im sorry but there is no middle ground , comprimise to be had. The fabric/DNA of Capitalism and Socialism are not compatible with each other. Its up to every American Citizen to decide this Fall which method of government they prefer and to cast their ballot, let their voice be heard.

 

[ForsythSnow]

To me its such a Black N White issue today between the 2 choices. NO GREY AREA.
Im sincere, Eitheir you choose Capitalism, Our Constitution @ Democracy OR you choose Pragmatic Socialism that beleives our constitution needs to be revised, changed.
Its very plain going forward what the Republican Party Platform supports and what the Democrat Party Platform supports. Everyone is entitled to stand up,vote ,speak out to the one they value and Candidate who represents their values.

When people say polotics are to polarizing nowadays, they are correct. The reason is you have fundamental differences coming against each other. Im sorry but there is no middle ground , comprimise to be had. The fabric/DNA of Capitalism and Socialism are not compatible with each other. Its up to every American Citizen to decide this Fall which method of government they prefer and to cast their ballot, let their voice be heard.

The first statement just means you believe in and live what's causing the issue of divide. There needs to be gray area and I believe it exists as I am a part of it. I'm neither a Trump fan nor a socialism supporter. Does either put me in those categories? No. You can't tell me that I believe socialism should run the country because I don't support Trump, and you should also not tell me that I should believe the Republican party stands exclusively for democracy, and the democrats all are socialists. None of this is correct.

 

[RBR71]

I'm not trying to defend him. Him insulting Trump supporters is not okay. However, if people who support trump are enraged about those statements, those who Trump has insulted have every right to feel the same way. There's way too many double standards put in play that force people to "Pick a side and stick with it no matter what" in politics today that it's hurting how our nation views itself. Both sides are childish. Its our duty as Americans to call out both sides even if its our own if they walk their dirt over our constitution and people. If we don't we'll keep giving the extreme sides the spotlight. That's why we have media hosts and Trump insulting each other and the people who support them. It's why we have Trump in the first place and why people on the left support Bernie and Warren.

I don't disagree but Christian conservatives like myself have been insulted for years from those on the left and I used to totally agree, that I or my "side" should never stoop to their level. But honestly, after years and years of insults..... you know we're "Bible thumpers" or we just "cling to our guns and religion", we're deplorable or if you go in Walmart you can just "smell the Trump voters". Not to mention Hollywood's depiction of us, seen any movies or shows that actually show a Christian male as highly intelligent, no, usually they are portrayed as the dumb country bumpkin, especially if you have an opinion on gay marriage that is contradictory to theirs. We're uneducated, dumb, racist, bigots, homophobic, xenophobes and have been made fun of for years..... so yeah while I tend to agree with your sentiment and sure we are to turn the other cheek, there does come a time when enough is enough. And many of us were glad someone would finally stand up in support of the average, hard working, tax paying, law abiding citizen that loves to cling to our God, guns and flag! It's who I am, I'm proud of it and I'll stand by it until the day I die.

 

[Sandbar]

To me its such a Black N White issue today between the 2 choices. NO GREY AREA.
Im sincere, Eitheir you choose Capitalism, Our Constitution @ Democracy OR you choose Pragmatic Socialism that beleives our constitution needs to be revised, changed.
Its very plain going forward what the Republican Party Platform supports and what the Democrat Party Platform supports. Everyone is entitled to stand up,vote ,speak out to the one they value and Candidate who represents their values.

When people say polotics are to polarizing nowadays, they are correct. The reason is you have fundamental differences coming against each other. Im sorry but there is no middle ground , comprimise to be had. The fabric/DNA of Capitalism and Socialism are not compatible with each other. Its up to every American Citizen to decide this Fall which method of government they prefer and to cast their ballot, let their voice be heard.

I agree 100%. I try not to judge those that say they are "in the middle". That's fine if you are but to me it is black and white when it comes to politics and we are all entwined in it. The republican party is not perfect, far from it, but they believe in free market capitalism even when it fails and needs correcting. The democrat party has/had a choice and it looks like it is close to making it. Socialism, welfare state, whatever you choose to call it, I want no part of it and those that support it? Well I have always been that lone wolf that doesn't need to be liked by everybody if most here haven't figured that out already........God, Country, Family...Hooyah!

 

[Flurry]

I don't disagree but Christian conservatives like myself have been insulted for years from those on the left and I used to totally agree, that I or my "side" should never stoop to their level. But honestly, after years and years of insults..... you know we're "Bible thumpers" or we just "cling to our guns and religion", we're deplorable or if you go in Walmart you can just "smell the Trump voters". Not to mention Hollywood's depiction of us, seen any movies or shows that actually show a Christian male as highly intelligent, no, usually they are portrayed as the dumb country bumpkin, especially if you have an opinion on gay marriage that is contradictory to theirs. We're uneducated, dumb, racist, bigots, homophobic, xenophobes and have been made fun of for years..... so yeah while I tend to agree with your sentiment and sure we are to turn the other cheek, there does come a time when enough is enough. And many of us were glad someone would finally stand up in support of the average, hard working, tax paying, law abiding citizen that loves to cling to our God, guns and flag! It's who I am, I'm proud of it and I'll stand by it until the day I die.

Excellent!! And the time has finally come I think....Enough is enough!!! The "Deplorables" have had it!!! No more standing idly by getting run over

 

[snowlover91]

I see Omar is now being investigated by the FBI about the reports she married her brother. https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/01/report-fbi-reviewing-claims-ilhan-omar-married-her-brother/

“Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) is a member of the AOC plus three “Squad” and has been embroiled in regarding her anti-Semitism and staunch support for the BDS movement. Additionally, there have been questions about whether or not she has committed tax and/or immigration fraud.

The New York Post reported Sunday that the FBI is now investigating whether or not reports that she married her own brother are founded.”

“An investigation by the Washington Examiner last summer found dozens of documents that indicate discrepancies within the congresswoman’s marriage statements. Omar, 38, has said she married her first husband, Ahmed Abdisalan Hirsi, in 2002 before they “decided to end our relationship in our faith tradition” in 2008.

According to Omar, she then married her second husband, Elmi, before getting divorced in 2011 and reconciling the same year with Hirsi. The Washington Examiner found, based on legal documents, that there is no evidence that Hirsi and Omar ever separated between 2008 and 2011, and instead continued to live together during that time period. She did, however, file for divorce from Hirsi in October last year.

Omar has declined to answer questions from the Washington Examiner on the matter, and her office said she would not be available to talk on the subject. Conviction for marriage fraud could result in a $250,000 fine, along with five years in prison.”


“A report released by the Minnesota Campaign Finance and Public Disclosure Board shows that Rep. Ilhan Omar broke federal tax law by filing her taxes jointly with a man to whom she was not legally married.

The Thursday report found that Omar filed joint tax returns in 2014 and 2015 with Ahmed Hirsi, her current husband, whom she did not legally marry until 2018.”

 

[Downeastnc]

The current political landscape is what happens when you let the fringe extreme ends of the parties run the parties, most Americans both on the left and right are more to the middle, they care about things like national debt, healthcare, education, infrastructure, tax reform, immigration, etc and they want smart long term solutions to these issues. The platforms pushed by both sides are too extreme for most of us, this "my way or the highway" mentality of the two parties is destructive and a giant waste of time. It is really unfortunate we find ourselves in this position, what I really want is for my elected leaders to sit down at a table and behave like adults and work things out instead of trying to force their agendas down the throat of America.......both sides are equally at fault in this, both versions of America pushed by the far right and far left are frightening....

 

[EV/WS]

Interesting........ GALLUP JAN 2-15, 2020

 

[Shaggy]

Breaking story that McConnell had told the GOP senators they lack the votes to stop witnesses. If this is true then Bolton will most certainly be called on.

 

[Sandbar]

The current political landscape is what happens when you let the fringe extreme ends of the parties run the parties, most Americans both on the left and right are more to the middle, they care about things like national debt, healthcare, education, infrastructure, tax reform, immigration, etc and they want smart long term solutions to these issues. The platforms pushed by both sides are too extreme for most of us, this "my way or the highway" mentality of the two parties is destructive and a giant waste of time. It is really unfortunate we find ourselves in this position, what I really want is for my elected leaders to sit down at a table and behave like adults and work things out instead of trying to force their agendas down the throat of America.......both sides are equally at fault in this, both versions of America pushed by the far right and far left are frightening....

You have 435 in the House and 100 in the Senate. When you get a majority of those "in the middle" like you let me know. Since its a pipe dream im gonna go with the extreme end that pays my bills now and in the future. I have a unique ability to take care of most of my needs

 

[Downeastnc]

Breaking story that McConnell had told the GOP senators they lack the votes to stop witnesses. If this is true then Bolton will most certainly be called on.

Add to that the GOP senators demanding the WH give them a copy of Bolton's manuscript...maybe some spine growing is occurring after all, a lot of them for whatever reason obviously believed Trump when he said he was innocent or they knew but thought Trump admin was going to keep it suppressed, either way chances seem very high we get to see Bolton and probably some others like Mulvaney etc under oath on the stand so either way this is great news......we need the GOP senators to wake up and realize this is their one chance to right the ship....I imagine Trump is no fun to be around right now as it all crumbles down around him.....

GOP senator says Senate should get copy of Bolton manuscript

Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) is calling for the White House to hand over a copy of former national security adviser John Bolton’s forthcoming memoir.“I am encouraging the White House, a…

thehill.com

 

[Sandbar]

Add to that the GOP senators demanding the WH give them a copy of Bolton's manuscript...maybe some spine growing is occurring after all, a lot of them for whatever reason obviously believed Trump when he said he was innocent or they knew but thought Trump admin was going to keep it suppressed, either way chances seem very high we get to see Bolton and probably some others like Mulvaney etc under oath on the stand so either way this is great news......we need the GOP senators to wake up and realize this is their one chance to right the ship....I imagine Trump is no fun to be around right now as it all crumbles down around him.....

GOP senator says Senate should get copy of Bolton manuscript

Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) is calling for the White House to hand over a copy of former national security adviser John Bolton’s forthcoming memoir.“I am encouraging the White House, a…

thehill.com

These GOP senators are going to Kavanaugh this. Allow him to speak and be done with it. If they vote to remove Trump their days in DC are over. They arent stupid. There are far more "extremist" like myself than pissed off Trump haters like yourself that vote.

 

[Shaggy]

These GOP senators are going to Kavanaugh this. Allow him to speak and be done with it. If they vote to remove Trump their days in DC are over. They arent stupid. There are far more "extremist" like myself than pissed off Trump haters like yourself that vote.

Not according to the 2016 popular vote or the 2018 blue wave.

 

[Downeastnc]

These GOP senators are going to Kavanaugh this. Allow him to speak and be done with it. If they vote to remove Trump their days in DC are over. They arent stupid. There are far more "extremist" like myself than pissed off Trump haters like yourself that vote.

Not even close, at best 30% of the GOP voting block are far righters....the rest held their nose when they voted for Trump.....though they probably will do it again in 2020. However those voters would also vote for someone other than Trump or someone not from the far right wing of the party....

Trump lost the popular vote by like 8 million votes, independents who he desperately needs are leaving him in droves and now a majority of independents support removing Trump.....I think you over estimate the power and size of the far right voting block....they failed to show up big time in the mid terms in 2018 allowing the Dems to take back the House in a big way.….things are not nearly as rosey as you would like to think. Heck 10-15% of Trump's own party wants him removed....

 

[Cad Wedge NC]

Not even close, at best 30% of the GOP voting block are far righters....the rest held their nose when they voted for Trump.....though they probably will do it again in 2020. However those voters would also vote for someone other than Trump or someone not from the far right wing of the party....

Trump lost the popular vote by like 8 million votes, independents who he desperately needs are leaving him in droves and now a majority of independents support removing Trump.....I think you over estimate the power and size of the far right voting block....they failed to show up big time in the mid terms in 2018 allowing the Dems to take back the House in a big way.….things are not nearly as rosey as you would like to think. Heck 10-15% of Trump's own party wants him removed....

I did not see 10-15% of the GOP in the house vote against him and I don't believe the GOP senators will either. However, I did see some Dems vote to keep him in office. I don't know what led you to believe that his base is dwindling.

 

[snowlover91]

Not even close, at best 30% of the GOP voting block are far righters....the rest held their nose when they voted for Trump.....though they probably will do it again in 2020. However those voters would also vote for someone other than Trump or someone not from the far right wing of the party....

Trump lost the popular vote by like 8 million votes, independents who he desperately needs are leaving him in droves and now a majority of independents support removing Trump.....I think you over estimate the power and size of the far right voting block....they failed to show up big time in the mid terms in 2018 allowing the Dems to take back the House in a big way.….things are not nearly as rosey as you would like to think. Heck 10-15% of Trump's own party wants him removed....

Lol 8 million votes? Where did you get that number from? He lost by 2.9 million, from CNN “The Democrat outpaced President-elect Donald Trump by almost 2.9 million votes, with 65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%), according to revised and certified final election results from all 50 states and the District of Columbia.”

 

[Shaggy]

Nadler now calling for Kelly to testify after he commented that he believes Bolton over trump.

 

[RBR71]

This popular vote thing annoys me and is like the ensemble mean being skewed by a couple of members showing a blizzard. NY and CA alone help throw the popular vote out of whack.

 

[Heelyes]

I did not see 10-15% of the GOP in the house vote against him and I don't believe the GOP senators will either. However, I did see some Dems vote to keep him in office. I don't know what led you to believe that his base is dwindling.

If he loses any support in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania or Michigan the rest of his base is not a factor. The election will be decided in these states not in any of the south. The only way the south is a factor is if Florida or Texas flip and then it doesn't matter what happens in the other swing States.

 

[Shaggy]

This popular vote thing annoys me and is like the ensemble mean being skewed by a couple of members showing a blizzard. NY and CA alone help throw the popular vote out of whack.

Yup thankfully the EC was put in place.

Really this is the problem with the government being so heavily weighted towards a federal system. Those high density areas shouldnt decide law for rural areas and vice versa.

Let states pass laws and then have the scotus weigh in when needed.

 

[RBR71]

Yup thankfully the EC was put in place.

Really this is the problem with the government being so heavily weighted towards a federal system. Those high density areas shouldnt decide law for rural areas and vice versa.

Let states pass laws and then have the scotus weigh in when needed.

Ok brace yourself, you sitting down?




I agree with you! But yes I'm all for states rights and less federal Gov't intrusion in our lives

 

[Downeastnc]

Lol 8 million votes? Where did you get that number from? He lost by 2.9 million, from CNN “The Democrat outpaced President-elect Donald Trump by almost 2.9 million votes, with 65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%), according to revised and certified final election results from all 50 states and the District of Columbia.”

I included the 3rd party votes etc, I guess I should have said 8 million more Americans voted for someone other than Trump than voted for Trump....actually I just did the math and people other than Trump got 9,939,258 more votes than the total number of people that voted for Trump....so rounding up that means that 63 million wanted Trump and 73 million wanted someone other than Trump.....

 

[Downeastnc]

I did not see 10-15% of the GOP in the house vote against him and I don't believe the GOP senators will either. However, I did see some Dems vote to keep him in office. I don't know what led you to believe that his base is dwindling.

I mean in general 10-15% of the GOP as in the party.....you know regular folks.....

 

[Shaggy]

Ok brace yourself, you sitting down?




I agree with you! But yes I'm all for states rights and less federal Gov't intrusion in our lives

We are a nation of states. Each state has different "needs".a gun law that might work for New York may have no place in Montana.

I was hoping a small party called the patrick Henry caucus would gain legs back in the days of the tea party but it failed on the national stage. They did pick up a few state seats in the midwest. Their entire platform was based on the 10th amendment.

 

[Downeastnc]

Nadler now calling for Kelly to testify after he commented that he believes Bolton over trump.

Naw Kelly is just lying as well.....Trump did not do it and I mean even if he did its not big deal and certainly not impeachable...but there is no way these guys are being truthful, Trump has told us hundreds of times he did not do it and I mean how dare we question the truthfulness of Trump for he never lies......but if he is lying its still no big deal.....

 

[Sandbar]

Naw Kelly is just lying as well.....Trump did not do it and I mean even if he did its not big deal and certainly not impeachable...but there is no way these guys are being truthful, Trump has told us hundreds of times he did not do it and I mean how dare we question the truthfulness of Trump for he never lies......but if he is lying its still no big deal.....

Just so I have this straight. Anybody that disagrees with your line of thinking on this is just simply a liar?.....LOL. Man you are a piece of work.

 

[snowlover91]

I included the 3rd party votes etc, I guess I should have said 8 million more Americans voted for someone other than Trump than voted for Trump....actually I just did the math and people other than Trump got 9,939,258 more votes than the total number of people that voted for Trump....so rounding up that means that 63 million wanted Trump and 73 million wanted someone other than Trump.....

Lol no one cares about the 3rd party votes, there are always people who vote for 3rd party candidates who have 0 chance of winning. Let’s put it in a way that’s not biased. There were 3 million more people who preferred Hillary over Trump and 7 million people who didn’t want either Trump or Hillary. When you say 10 million people didn’t want Trump that’s misleading because 7 million of them also didn’t want Hillary.

 

[snowlover91]

Nadler now calling for Kelly to testify after he commented that he believes Bolton over trump.

Here’s what the democrats are attempting, this article analyzes it quite well and predicted this would happen a month ago.

Democrats 'Kavanaughing' Impeachment Trial As Predicted – John Bolton Leak Came as House Case Was Collapsing

We have seen this show before, it's all designed to pressure a small number of weak Republican Senators to allow Democrats to turn the Senate into a circus in which the process becomes the punishment.

legalinsurrection.com

“It has been clear for weeks that the Democrats were seeking to ‘Kavanaugh’ the Senate impeachment trial — to roll out with media help a well-timed series of supposed bombshell accusations whose main purpose was to create a media hysteria to pressure Republican Senators to extend the process.

The process for the nominee, or in the impeachment framework the president, becomes the punishment and the Democrat campaign strategy.

That’s what happened in the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearing. Once it because clear that Kavanaugh would be confirmed and the hearings were closed, a series of accusers — Christine Blasey Ford, Julie Swetnick, Deborah Ramirez, plus anonymous accusers — were rolled out to reopen the hearings and prolong the process. The accusations were absurd and contradicted by all known evidence, but that was not the point. The Democrats, having invented and honed the skill of Borking nominees, wanted to punish the nominee and damage his legitimacy as a Supreme Court Justice.”

 

[whatalife]

So tired of this impeachment crap! There isn’t a single President that hasn’t done something that might be impeachable and/or crooked!


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[Arcc]

I'm highly interested in watching the witnesses. It could definitely hurt Trump if they do testify against him. That said if Bolton wobbles or clarifies what his book says and it doesn't paint a clear picture it could hurt the democrats really bad. The same is true should the GOP get the Bidens under oath.

The democrats have much more to lose IMO.

 

[snowlover91]

I'm highly interested in watching the witnesses. It could definitely hurt Trump if they do testify against him. That said if Bolton wobbles or clarifies what his book says and it doesn't paint a clear picture it could hurt the democrats really bad. The same is true should the GOP get the Bidens under oath.

The democrats have much more to lose IMO.

If the democratic nominee ends up being Biden then he and trump will have one thing in common with the Ukraine questions/concerns lol.