Political Thread

[Sandbar]

His claims of Vet care is a lie.

https://apnews.com/375515aecedb4aed949e4f2eb9c54eb6

So all one has to do is go to google, type in "VA care under Trump" and behold, the first NEGATIVE article regarding VA care under this administration is the one you linked......Imagine that! Take it from a Veteran, VA care funding has increased massively and we now have more choices, especially the vets who live in areas far reached from VA healthcare. Trust me when I say I could pick apart many things regarding VA care but Trump is actually doing a good job in this area. You should try reading more unbiased articles from time to time instead of what you want to find.....just a thought

 

[Shaggy]

So all one has to do is go to google, type in "VA care under Trump" and behold, the first NEGATIVE article regarding VA care under this administration is the one you linked......Imagine that! Take it from a Veteran, VA care funding has increased massively and we now have more choices, especially the vets who live in areas far reached from VA healthcare. Trust me when I say I could pick apart many things regarding VA care but Trump is actually doing a good job in this area. You should try reading more unbiased articles from time to time instead of what you want to find.....just a thought

Was anything in the article inaccurate?

 

[Flurry]

It is interesting to me that you would say that it "sounds like you like to kill". Could you explain the reasoning that lead you to this conclusion? It doesn't "sound" like this to me and would like to know how you arrived at such a divergent interpretation from his posts.

Gotta be careful on this thread...There are some "touchy" ones on here...LOL

 

[Downeastnc]

Well Trump told O'Reilly that Rudy was in Ukraine for someone else and not at the presidents request. We know this is a flat out lie. Trump is simply doing what trump does. Try to distance himself from anyone that appears in trouble. The problem is we know he is lying blatantly and right to your faces. We know he sent rudy to Ukraine to push the investigations.

Trump is slowly dealing his own fate. Cant stab everyone in the back and not expectto get stabbed back. Rudy has already claimed he has insurance against this very thing happening. Guess we will see what Rudy does now that trump is throwing him under the bus.

This is just Trump gaslighting his base....if he says it enough eventually that all remember it that way.....Trump literally says on the call to Zelensky in July that he wants Zelensky to call Rudy so Rudy can help with the investigations into Crowdstrike, Bidens etc....

 

[Sandbar]

Was anything in the article inaccurate?

From my personal experience the current administration has improved the process 10 fold and it is no longer just a temporary program. I'm not bashing the Obama administration. They moved the ball in the right direction Trump just expanded it, tightened it up, and the process is improved upon. At least it has been for me on more than one occasion. To say Trump lied about this is just ignorant.....

 

[Shaggy]

From my personal experience the current administration has improved the process 10 fold and it is no longer just a temporary program. I'm not bashing the Obama administration. They moved the ball in the right direction Trump just expanded it, tightened it up, and the process is improved upon. At least it has been for me on more than one occasion. To say Trump lied about this is just ignorant.....

But he did lie. He says he passed the laws expanding VA coverage when the law was passed in 2014 I believe.

 

[Sandbar]

But he did lie. He says he passed the laws expanding VA coverage when the law was passed in 2014 I believe.[/QUOTE

He took what was already there, made it run a tad bit better, expanded it and made it permanent. You can argue the semantics of it until you are blue in the face. The important thing to myself and other vets is that improvements are continuing to be made and we aren't orange on.

 

[Shaggy]

Cant exactly remember when the post was made but someone brought up trump turning down presidential pay as some sort of proof he is in this for good reason. Turns out trumps made 10x that amount by defrauding taxpayers out of millions of dollars. The FOIA documents highlight how he is spending millions of taxpayer dollars at his resorts......not only spending it but price gauging at that. He is essentially stealing taxpayer money IMO.

This part right here is disgusting. If you believe trump is honorable for refusing to accept his pay then you have bought his BS hook line and sinker.

ProPublica, for example, found that Mar-a-Lago charged taxpayers $546 a night for rooms ― three times the per-diem rate and the maximum allowed by federal rules ―

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-golf-trips-millions-thanksgiving-221349040.html

 

[SimeonNC]

I just want to take a second to say that I am glad this thread is pretty respectful despite the vast differences in opinions, I have been on other boards and certain people can back my statements up in saying that those other boards were somewhat vitrolic and toxic.

 

[SETNwx]

People can be disrespectful, and then feel bad. Then there are the people who are so dug in they feel it's their principled stance to be assholes and they don't need to feel regret over it. I've been an asshole, but don't really feel like I'm graced by some 'ethical ideal' to be 100% correct in that ideal.

 

[Shawn]

I like to give false information to the polling centers when they ask me who I support as a presidential candidate

They called me and I asked if Gary Johnson was on and they said no. So then I asked which candidate supported marijuana legalization and they told me anyone on the left. I barely had to bait them into skewing my opinion.

Yeah. Not biased polls AT ALL.

 

[Sandbar]

So when is the hammer gonna fall on Trump.....lol. Looks to me like the BS is just circling the drain like always. They should throw every single one of those corrupt Democrats in jail.

 

[Shaggy]

So when is the hammer gonna fall on Trump.....lol. Looks to me like the BS is just circling the drain like always. They should throw every single one of those corrupt Democrats in jail.

Hope you set s standard and stick to it in the future. If we leave this situation without holding the president responsible in some way and then the next democrat does something you dont like you will have ZERO credit and nothing to stand on.

 

[SimeonNC]

Honestly imo while Trump is nowhere close to being a good president, he is also nowhere close to being the monster a lot of the left view him as.

He has honestly not done anything we shouldn't have expected from him. He's a loudmouth attention seeker who seems to care more about his social media presence than getting stuff done. As for the impeachment stuff, I honestly do not care.

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[Sandbar]

Hope you set s standard and stick to it in the future. If we leave this situation without holding the president responsible in some way and then the next democrat does something you dont like you will have ZERO credit and nothing to stand on.

If holding a President or any other politician "responsible" to the point of impeachment for this crap is YOUR STANDARD, then I'm afraid you will have very few politicians representing you in the future. I have no problems with holding someone responsible; I spent my entire military career living by that, but I know the difference between a serious crime and jaywalking and the Trump hating crowd (you included) needs to come with grips that you cant just impeach someone for hating them.....and that's just what you guys/gals are asking for

 

[Shaggy]

If holding a President or any other politician "responsible" to the point of impeachment for this crap is YOUR STANDARD, then I'm afraid you will have very few politicians representing you in the future. I have no problems with holding someone responsible; I spent my entire military career living by that, but I know the difference between a serious crime and jaywalking and the Trump hating crowd (you included) needs to come with grips that you cant just impeach someone for hating them.....and that's just what you guys/gals are asking for

Pay attention on Wednesday theres gonna be quite a few people with infinitely more knowledge than any of us explaining exactly why what trump has done isnt just jaywalking.

 

[Sandbar]

Pay attention on Wednesday theres gonna be quite a few people with infinitely more knowledge than any of us explaining exactly why what trump has done isnt just jaywalking.

Yeah ive been hearing that garbage for 3 years now. Its might be different garbage but its the same message and intent. We hate Trump and the millions of you that voted him in and are thriving can suck an egg. They will stop at nothing because thats what you do when you know you arent going to win at the ballot box next November......

 

[Arcc]

Hope you set s standard and stick to it in the future. If we leave this situation without holding the president responsible in some way and then the next democrat does something you dont like you will have ZERO credit and nothing to stand on.

Eh, that precedent has long been set.

 

[Flurry]

Well, I'm heartbroken...Kamala Harris has dropped out of the 2020 race....Like she even had a chance...LOL

 

[SimeonNC]

Looks like Joe "Kids love to sit on my lap" Biden is probably gonna become nominee.

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[Rosie]

Looks like Joe "Kids love to sit on my lap" Biden is probably gonna become nominee.

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And “grabs them by the p———y is in office.

 

[Sandbar]

A lot (Most in this case) of these candidates jump in so they can have a say in pushing the parties agenda. It just so happens that most of them have gone so far left of lunacy with the socialist tendencies, that most voters with an once of common sense are just not going to vote. Biden has no shot at beating Trump I don't care what any poll says. Bloomberg has a good shot at sneaking on but he wont beat Trump either. Our nation is rolling and even most Trump haters aren't going to deny that. Those that can't stomach voting for Trump because of their "emotions" will just stay at home replaced by somebody that wouldn't normally vote for him but doesn't want this economy touched.

 

[GaWx]

A lot (Most in this case) of these candidates jump in so they can have a say in pushing the parties agenda. It just so happens that most of them have gone so far left of lunacy with the socialist tendencies, that most voters with an once of common sense are just not going to vote. Biden has no shot at beating Trump I don't care what any poll says. Bloomberg has a good shot at sneaking on but he wont beat Trump either. Our nation is rolling and even most Trump haters aren't going to deny that. Those that can't stomach voting for Trump because of their "emotions" will just stay at home replaced by somebody that wouldn't normally vote for him but doesn't want this economy touched.

Biden has a good chance though a better one if the stock market/economy isn't still soaring. Many folks, including some right of center folks like me think Trump is loony and/or a babbling idiot who has no clue what he is doing. Trump needs to go.

 

[Sandbar]

Biden has a good chance though a better one if the stock market/economy isn't still soaring. Many folks think Trump is loony and/or a babbling idiot who has no clue what he is doing.

When is the last time half the people didn't think that about the President? Its been a long time. The fact is most people of sound mind that work for their money vote with their wallet. Bills, retirement, etc....Sure their are some people that wish Mr. Rodgers was living in the White House but that just isn't going to be reality

 

[GaWx]

When is the last time half the people didn't think that about the President? Its been a long time. The fact is most people of sound mind that work for their money vote with their wallet. Bills, retirement, etc....Sure their are some people that wish Mr. Rodgers was living in the White House but that just isn't going to be reality

I don't want Mr. Rogers. I want someone like Reagan, someone with class, someone who doesn't ramble, someone who doesn't constantly lie, someone who isn't more concerned about himself than the country, someone who at least shows some care about the other half, someone who wants to make a more unified country again as opposed to just making the red nation great again, someone who doesn't belittle others like Trump did to John McCain (who unlike him actually served in the military) and did to others with childish nicknames....

Edit: Someone who doesn't criticize his predecessor for playing too much golf and then plays even more, himself!

 

[Sandbar]

I don't want Mr. Rogers. I want someone like Reagan, someone with class, someone who doesn't ramble, someone who doesn't constantly lie, someone who isn't more concerned about himself than the country, someone who at least shows some care about the other half, someone who wants to make a more unified country again as opposed to just making the red nation great again, someone who doesn't belittle others like Trump did to John McCain (who unlike him actually served in the military) and did to others with childish nicknames....

Edit: Someone who doesn't criticize his predecessor for playing too much golf and then plays even more, himself!

I dont form any kind of personal connection with politicians and I got to meet Clinton and Bush while serving. I dont like Trumps demeanor so I remedy that by living my life, catching up on missed family time over the years and working. Due to the nature of my work now, I dont do social media and I make sure not to get caught up in the BS the media peddles on all subjects so I guess its easier fir me to filter out the emotions that come with politics. You can obviously devide for yourself whats a lie, whats childish name calling and what and whether someone ir something divides the country but I think you have misjudged if you think Trump doesn't care about anything but himself. That is just nonsense

 

[GaWx]

I dont form any kind of personal connection with politicians and I got to meet Clinton and Bush while serving. I dont like Trumps demeanor so I remedy that by living my life, catching up on missed family time over the years and working. Due to the nature of my work now, I dont do social media and I make sure not to get caught up in the BS the media peddles on all subjects so I guess its easier fir me to filter out the emotions that come with politics. You can obviously devide for yourself whats a lie, whats childish name calling and what and whether someone ir something divides the country but I think you have misjudged if you think Trump doesn't care about anything but himself. That is just nonsense

I didn't say that he only cares about himself. I said he cares more about himself than the country.

 

[Sandbar]

I didn't say that he only cares about himself. I said he cares more about himself than the country.

Ok.....lol. He loves his country. He loves himself a tad bit more. Thats not the end of the world.....and of course you didnt say it was the end of the world!

 

[crecre9]

When is the last time half the people didn't think that about the President? Its been a long time. The fact is most people of sound mind that work for their money vote with their wallet. Bills, retirement, etc....Sure their are some people that wish Mr. Rodgers was living in the White House but that just isn't going to be reality

Um, the previous president? Compare Obama and Trump speaking and well....there is no comparison.

 

[Arcc]

Um, the previous president? Compare Obama and Trump speaking and well....there is no comparison.

Very True, Trump speaks bad and lies a lot and Obama spoke really well and lied a lot. Oh wait, I guess stepping in green dog poop is just as bad as yellow dog poop.