Political Thread

[GaWx]

To @Shaggy and others:

From that other BB, here is what one of the three I've talked about just said:

"I will make the bold statement that this year, nobody, not even the CDC, can tell you how many lives were lost to the flu

Why do I make this statement?

Because hospital doctors across the US were ordered to call all hospital deaths a Covid19death, whether Covid19 was involved or not. This fact has been proven by at least one published document from one state’s department of health, as well as by the verbal admissions of numerous doctors across the country.

"There is no doubt in my mind that, since mid-March, almost every flu death was listed as a Covid19 death for the official records.

"So, today, we are looking at 79,000 Covid19 deaths in the USA. How many of these deaths are actually flu deaths? 10,000? 20,000? 30,000? How does anyone really know, since we are not keeping honest data anymore?

Ironically,not long ago I read a comment by the CDC, stating that this year it was a “mild flu-season”. Well, of course it was…. during the last few weeks every flu death was recorded as a covid19 death."

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From where is he getting the bolded? I think he's getting mislead bigtime, but I'll be open-minded and ask; Could there possibly be any truth to this? By the way, he is still another strong Trump supporter who claims he always voted Democrat/liberal before Trump.

 

[Deleted member 527]

To @Shaggy and others:

From that other BB, here is what one of the three I've talked about just said:

"I will make the bold statement that this year, nobody, not even the CDC, can tell you how many lives were lost to the flu

Why do I make this statement?

Because hospital doctors across the US were ordered to call all hospital deaths a Covid19death, whether Covid19 was involved or not. This fact has been proven by at least one published document from one state’s department of health, as well as by the verbal admissions of numerous doctors across the country.

"There is no doubt in my mind that, since mid-March, almost every flu death was listed as a Covid19 death for the official records.

"So, today, we are looking at 79,000 Covid19 deaths in the USA. How many of these deaths are actually flu deaths? 10,000? 20,000? 30,000? How does anyone really know, since we are not keeping honest data anymore?

Ironically,not long ago I read a comment by the CDC, stating that this year it was a “mild flu-season”. Well, of course it was…. during the last few weeks every flu death was recorded as a covid19 death."

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From where is he getting the bolded? I think he's getting mislead bigtime, but I'll be open-minded and ask; Could there possibly be any truth to this? By the way, he is still another strong Trump supporter who claims he always voted Democrat/liberal before Trump.

I don’t know that is true since March. It has been proven and told by people I know in the medical field from Nursing to RT to medical filing and insurance. They have counted many deaths from the virus that were not. Some were also counted as virus because they had it and had no symptoms. Such as the stroke patient who no one knew she had the virus till after the stroke and she was dead. I’m sure people die of medical conditions all the time but are classified as from the flu or medicine they were on. To me I would say the numbers are inflated a lot. Hospitals are getting money for virus deaths at this time. Sad but it’s govt. always lying about something. I had a medical records and insurance friend tell me yesterday almost all deaths except gun shots and vehicle accident deaths are counted as virus at this time. Even wo testing. Money talks.

 

[Deleted member 527]

Just live unless you die then oh well sorry.

Yep. Because you could die tomorrow from many things. More likely from something other than this virus. When flu season comes around make sure to stay inside shaggy. Oh well if you are homeless, poverty, hungry, and want to commit suicide. Shaggy wants to remind you. Your saving a life!

 

[Shaggy]

I don’t know that is true since March. It has been proven and told by people I know in the medical field from Nursing to RT to medical filing and insurance. They have counted many deaths from the virus that were not. Some were also counted as virus because they had it and had no symptoms. Such as the stroke patient who no one knew she had the virus till after the stroke and she was dead. I’m sure people die of medical conditions all the time but are classified as from the flu or medicine they were on. To me I would say the numbers are inflated a lot. Hospitals are getting money for virus deaths at this time. Sad but it’s govt. always lying about something. I had a medical records and insurance friend tell me yesterday almost all deaths except gun shots and vehicle accident deaths are counted as virus at this time. Even wo testing. Money talks.

Why do you believe these things? I can prove this entire premise 100% false right now. Heres the local Obituaries for my area only going back to May 1st.......its over 40 people and yet my local area only has 2 covid deaths.

Anyone telling you all deaths except gunshots and car accidents are being attributed to covid are full of it.

The Daily Reflector Recent Obituaries: All of The Daily Reflector's Recent Obituaries

Browse The Daily Reflector obituaries, conduct other obituary searches, offer condolences/tributes, send flowers or create an online memorial.

www.reflector.com

 

[Deleted member 527]

Why do you believe these things? I can prove this entire premise 100% false right now. Heres the local Obituaries for my area only going back to May 1st.......its over 40 people and yet my local area only has 2 covid deaths.

Anyone telling you all deaths except gunshots and car accidents are being attributed to covid are full of it.

The Daily Reflector Recent Obituaries: All of The Daily Reflector's Recent Obituaries

Browse The Daily Reflector obituaries, conduct other obituary searches, offer condolences/tributes, send flowers or create an online memorial.

www.reflector.com

Well two of my family members work in hospitals. One friend is in medical records. Another is a nurse friend in a hospital. So I don’t think they would be just saying these things. Plus there was the article of the head of the hospital in Minnesota that said the hospitals get paid for virus deaths. So take it for what it’s worth. I know 5 people have had it and all recovered fine. So looking at this board and other boards. Some have had it on here. No one seriously ill. All around our community and where I work. Some have had it no deaths. So there is that also. Yes NY had it bad it seems but all these meat plants, Amazon, Lowe’s, Walmart, and grocery stores. Yes some get it but I see the proof that not everyone is dropping dead from this virus. I see that 98-99% survive and are fine. I see hospitals laying people off and not over run. So yes I’m skeptical of all the media is reporting.

 

[crecre9]

Who has been sacrificed just to get Trump in office? He was voted in because of believing he was best for country. Hillary would have been a complete disaster. We would be under martial law if she was potus. So Trump or Hillary. Easy choice in my mind. Same with Trump or Biden. Another easy choice. In other words no matter which we pick both are not going to bring unity. Democrats are liberals these days in politics. They want socialism.

If you think the majority of current elected Democratic Party politicians are liberal, or even left, I've got beachfront property in Kansas you may be interested in.

But seriously, we already have many policies that are socialist in nature that most Americans would hate to see go away. Unfortunately we have even more that socialize the failures and privatize the gains of some business ventures. We might as well have socialist policies that benefit the common man.

 

[Shaggy]

Well two of my family members work in hospitals. One friend is in medical records. Another is a nurse friend in a hospital. So I don’t think they would be just saying these things. Plus there was the article of the head of the hospital in Minnesota that said the hospitals get paid for virus deaths. So take it for what it’s worth. I know 5 people have had it and all recovered fine. So looking at this board and other boards. Some have had it on here. No one seriously ill. All around our community and where I work. Some have had it no deaths. So there is that also. Yes NY had it bad it seems but all these meat plants, Amazon, Lowe’s, Walmart, and grocery stores. Yes some get it but I see the proof that not everyone is dropping dead from this virus. I see that 98-99% survive and are fine. I see hospitals laying people off and not over run. So yes I’m skeptical of all the media is reporting.

I just gave you proof positive that this narrative of everyone dying is being listed as covid is BS. Its not true and it doesnt matter what the media says I just showed you in black and white.

 

[Bham 99]

Well two of my family members work in hospitals. One friend is in medical records. Another is a nurse friend in a hospital. So I don’t think they would be just saying these things. Plus there was the article of the head of the hospital in Minnesota that said the hospitals get paid for virus deaths. So take it for what it’s worth. I know 5 people have had it and all recovered fine. So looking at this board and other boards. Some have had it on here. No one seriously ill. All around our community and where I work. Some have had it no deaths. So there is that also. Yes NY had it bad it seems but all these meat plants, Amazon, Lowe’s, Walmart, and grocery stores. Yes some get it but I see the proof that not everyone is dropping dead from this virus. I see that 98-99% survive and are fine. I see hospitals laying people off and not over run. So yes I’m skeptical of all the media is reporting.

Cuomo said today Kentucky gets paid more per covid patient than NY.

 

[crecre9]

Doctor: Our voices are being silenced by media and 'experts' * WorldNetDaily * by WND Staff

Amid the censorship of coronavirus views that conflict with the WHO, Dr. Jeff Barke declared at a rally in California oppostion to stay-home orders.

www.wnd.com

Of course it’s always Trumps fault. She’s a pos mayor. She needs to look inside her own DA and law enforcement. What they did was wrong but .....
obviously now it’s showing the young man was not so innocent after all. Video of him on construction sight breaking in. Carrying a hammer on a jog? Please. He was not some innocent young man. Plus now video shows they kept asking him to stop that police were on way. Yes they should have let him go took pics of him and given to police. Both were wrong and up to no good.
Lebron with his typical pos mouth. Lebron you are a great player but will never be as great and loved as Jordan or Bryant. Jordan & Bryant respected everyone. They never ran their mouths. Zion is the next great like Jordan and Bryant. Lebron will be just great nothing more.

Are you kidding me with this post?
I can't even...what kind of person...
How would any of the garbage you are spewing justify his murder? I have an idea of why you might think so.
Also, please learn geography, she's the mayor of Atlanta, not Brunswick.

 

[Shaggy]

Are you kidding me with this post?
I can't even...what kind of person...
How would any of the garbage you are spewing justify his murder? I have an idea of why you might think so.
Also, please learn geography, she's the mayor of Atlanta, not Brunswick.

Theres a list of news sites I refuse to use. OANN, mother jones, epoch times, WND are banned. I do t even click on them.

 

[GeorgiaGirl]

Unless the defense can prove that the McMichaels' witnessed a felony to a grand jury, there's not much there that can get them off honestly. It's a case where all 3 may very well have been in the wrong here though. If he was (that's hard to prove without evidence), stealing is a crime (although it's unprovable that they knew it was going on) and taking the law in your own hands is not something that regular citizens should be doing.

Honestly if you're facing good prosecution (the GBI says they're going to thoroughly investigate before taking the case to a grand jury), the smart thing for the McMichaels to do would be to cut a deal that's lower than felony murder (I don't think there's murder 1 and 2 in Georgia, just felony murder), and take manslaughter charges. I'm just not seeing how taking your chances in front of a grand jury is going to work here. Of course I could be wrong, because I'm probably never going to get myself seated on any jury. Who knows what the opinion of the jury will be...

I mean, as it is, the police were prepared to arrest them months ago before the DA (who had a conflict of interest) blocked it.

Also, Arbery may have been stealing but unless you know for sure, being caught on camera in a home under construction is not something that's out of the ordinary. How many of us have walked through homes under construction just to be nosy/look around? It's trespassing, sure, but is it really doing anything if you're just looking around?

Your suspicions in the state of Georgia are not enough to conduct a citizens' arrest.

Somewhat unrelated, but Georgia was going to try to make it legal to brandish a firearm in certain situations. I wonder if this incident is going to slow that down.

 

[crecre9]

Unless the defense can prove that the McMichaels' witnessed a felony to a grand jury, there's not much there that can get them off honestly. It's a case where all 3 may very well have been in the wrong here though. If he was (that's hard to prove without evidence), stealing is a crime (although it's unprovable that they knew it was going on) and taking the law in your own hands is not something that regular citizens should be doing.

Honestly if you're facing good prosecution (the GBI says they're going to thoroughly investigate before taking the case to a grand jury), the smart thing for the McMichaels to do would be to cut a deal that's lower than felony murder (I don't think there's murder 1 and 2 in Georgia, just felony murder), and take manslaughter charges. I'm just not seeing how taking your chances in front of a grand jury is going to work here. Of course I could be wrong, because I'm probably never going to get myself seated on any jury. Who knows what the opinion of the jury will be...

I mean, as it is, the police were prepared to arrest them months ago before the DA (who had a conflict of interest) blocked it.

Also, Arbery may have been stealing but unless you know for sure, being caught on camera in a home under construction is not something that's out of the ordinary. How many of us have walked through homes under construction just to be nosy/look around? It's trespassing, sure, but is it really doing anything if you're just looking around?

Your suspicions in the state of Georgia are not enough to conduct a citizens' arrest.

Somewhat unrelated, but Georgia was going to try to make it legal to brandish a firearm in certain situations. I wonder if this incident is going to slow that down.

I still don't understand how they weren't arrested on the spot, before a DA was involved. I just don't understand. IIRC they admitted at the scene the pursued, confronted, and killed him. There is no universe in which there can be any claim of self defense when you are the instigstor. And police would have no more right to kill him than a regular citizen, though many people are somehow okay with this.
I've definitely walked through houses under construction. It's cool to see that stuff.
Also, what could possibly be gained by making it legal to brandish firearms? Any idea on the though process of GA lawmakers there?

 

[NCSNOW]

Well, regarding climate change, I do think he has a valid point with regard to more greening/higher yields due to more CO2 (plant food) and longer growing seasons/warmer further north. But he's also minimizing the negative impact of higher sea levels, which I don't agree with him on.

Regarding Russia/Trump, he's taking the Mueller Report and saying that it means he didn't collude nor obstruct justice. I agree that it wasn't able to prove collusion (innocent until proven guilty) but I think it is much more nebulous about the chance he obstructed justice.

Regarding Ukraine, he has insisted Schiff is corrupt and a liar and that he's in trouble now. I told him that I thought Schiff presented his argument well with the list of 10 items that I posted here and there even realizing that Schiff is very biased against Trump.

Our country is a big mess!

You cant seriously and objectively be buying into the Russian collusion failed coupe anymore? Its fine your against Trump,centrist etc. But no way should anyone get away with trying this again in our country. Care whos in office.

 

[NCSNOW]

Georgia reports lowest number of COVID patients in a month
By Nick Givas | Fox News
After re opening

 

[NCSNOW]

New study shows staggering effect of coronavirus pandemic on America’s mental health
May 7, 2020 12.59pm EDT
Jean Twenge, San Diego State University

 

[NCSNOW]

Wall Street Journal: Economic Lockdown Is the 'Catastrophe'

(Dreamstime)
By Eric Mack
Saturday, 09 May 2020 3:24 PM

Read Newsmax: Wall Street Journal: Economic Lockdown Is the 'Catastrophe'
Urgent: Do you approve of Pres. Trump’s job performance? Vote Here Now!

 

[NCSNOW]

German Intel: China Told WHO to Hide Human-to-Human Coronavirus Transmission in Jan
Natalie Winters
May 10, 2020
4 min read
The Chinese Communist Party forced the World Health Organization (WHO) to refrain from notifying the world about human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus, causing a “four to six-week delay in fighting” the virus, according to Germany’s Federal Intelligence Service.
The recently-released report corroborates the Trump administration’s narrative that China purposely withheld this critical information, delaying the world’s ability to respond: “According to the BND, China has urged the World Health Organization (WHO) to delay a global warning after the outbreak of the virus at the highest level. On January 21, China’s leader Xi Jinping asked WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus to hold back information about a human-to-human transmission and to delay a pandemic warning.”

 

[Deleted member 527]

U.S. to Accuse China of Trying to Hack Vaccine Data, as Virus Redirects Cyberattacks (Published 2020)

Iran and other nations are also looking to steal data and exploit the pandemic with attacks on infrastructure, officials say.

www.nytimes.com

War drums getting louder

 

[GaWx]

You cant seriously and objectively be buying into the Russian collusion failed coupe anymore? Its fine your against Trump,centrist etc. But no way should anyone get away with trying this again in our country. Care whos in office.

I said Trump is innocent of collusion per the Mueller Report.

 

[Deleted member 527]

Barbers, beauticians plan to sue Newsom over stay-at-home order * WorldNetDaily * by Around the Web

... Read more

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Lawsuits lining up. Wonder if judges will say you saved a life that’s all that matters. Your suffering and losing everything was worth it.