there are a lot of times where it doesn’t come into play. But it happens. A lot. It just does.
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there are a lot of times where it doesn’t come into play. But it happens. A lot. It just does.
If you don’t recognize systemic racism as a legit thing all I can say is you live a sheltered life and haven’t yet been exposed to it.
I am a hiring manager for my company and I don't do that. I look at past experience in the resume. Are you a hiring manager?
NoSnowATL
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IWe can agree to disagree but a name doesn’t mean poop. Experience and skills hire a person.
hey I’m also probably one of the older posters here at 40. I was a kid in the 80s when it was way worse. It’s better now but there is still progress to make.
But it’s the past and a long long time ago. A black AMERICAN a live today has equal right and is
IWe can agree to disagree but a name doesn’t mean poop. Experience and skills hire a person.
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yeah I’m a hiring manager. And you’re right I’m Not saying even close to 100% of people do it but it happens. I mean come on you don’t think there are racists out there who would intentionally hire the white guy over the black guy? I mean really even if it’s 5-10% you still have the segment of America pushing against black people.
Jessy89
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A lot of people disagree with you. Maybe what your saying is true in some places. But I’ve never seen it where I live. Blacks from my point of view have gotten the same opportunities. If your seeing something different I’m not gonna argue with ya
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NoSnowATL
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I also grow up in Decatur. My family was the only white family on the street. I went to school were we have less then 10 white kids in the whole school. Racism works both ways. I’ve experienced it but if you work hard enough your skin color means jack!
Hired a black woman today that wanted more money than a white woman I interviewed today. She was just better and worth the investment. But my practices are not the same as everyone else’s.
I can relate. I went to a city school in Atlanta metro too and I was the minority as a white guy. Racism does go both ways but in America white men run the country overwhelmingly.
Jessy89
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If you don’t mind me asking what type of work do ya do? Sorry just curious
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NoSnowATL
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True but it doesn’t mean a black person cant be somebody . Didn’t we just have a black president? Times are changing but if people keep bring up ---- from 400 years ago we can never keep moving forward.
yeah I’m a hiring manager. And you’re right I’m Not saying even close to 100% of people do it but it happens. I mean come on you don’t think there are racists out there who would intentionally hire the white guy over the black guy? I mean really even if it’s 5-10% you still have the segment of America pushing against black people.
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Of course it happens some. But there are laws in place to protect black people already in those cases. If more effort would be put in on education and focusing on the health of the black family it would solve alot of issues instead of always dishing out a woe-is-me victimized mindset.
Guess we agree to disagree on this one. Hard work can overcome but I still firmly believe minorities face systemic racism and it’s not right or fair and only time will make it better. Sad thing is it will never go away. Typically the majority reins supreme over the minority and will try to keep the status quo.
circling back to the black lives matter and black national anthem.... you’re right above but that doesn’t mean we can’t continue to keep the plight in the spotlight.
Jessy89
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And if Democrats ever pass a bill. Where money comes out of white peoples paycheck to make up for slavery. You will see a lot of pissed of whites and racism will become a lot worse then it’s ever been.
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circling back to the black lives matter and black national anthem.... you’re right above but that doesn’t mean we can’t continue to keep the plight on the spotlight.
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At what cost is it worth keeping the spotlight on the plight constantly, incessantly? When does personal responsibility ever come into account?
I’m personally not for reparations. But it’s been done before for Japanese internment and the Holocaust etc
At what cost is it worth keeping the spotlight on the plight constantly, incessantly? When does personal responsibility ever come into account?
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these quotes are jacked up.... but my answer would be always. But....I just don’t have a problem with the spotlight being on the black plight.
NoSnowATL
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Education, skills,2 parent households... are all issues that need to be addressed but need to be addressed with help of the black communities. Black on black crime is ramped.
Jessy89
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I’m glad your not for it. I would be pissed if I had to pay for something from 400yrs ago. I’m low income as it is.
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VegasEagle
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No $H!t..,. And how does this equate ti 2020? Because we all know the part of " home of the free " is now in play today.
these quotes are jacked up.... but my answer would be always. But....I just don’t have a problem with the spotlight being on the black plight.
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When it results in people being constantly offended and not empowered that is the problem. I don't care what color you are if you live life being offended at everybody and everything you will never be successful.
Gang violence for sure. If I was living in some of those he’ll holes I’d be a gangster too. Probably the only way some can even survive. It’s a nasty circle.
dude we are not even hardly a generation removed from separate but equal and we all
Know damn well it wasn’t equal.
As a POC (I’m Hispanic) I experience racism weekly. My daughters do as well. In school it is always little snide comments like, “Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN’T?” It’s worse for blacks. I’m not going to say anything else because you can’t make some people see the forest for the trees. Just because YOU DON’T SEE RACISM, IT DOESN’T MEAN IT’S NOT THERE. Keep your fcking heads in the sand. I wish you could experience a tenth of what I have.
Dude, Biden isn't all there. I'm serious. I mean, I know some hate Trump, and that's valid. But Biden is losing his marbles. Seriously. I'm not predicting that will sway any voters, but it's for real.
Jessy89
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Every race can be racist. Not just white but Latinos and blacks can be racists to. Like If a white person moves in a black neighborhood. There’s cases where the white person treated differently.
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he’s always been off with the stutter. Do I think he’s lost a bit in 8-12 years? of course but he is still sharp enough. The debates will show you guys he can still tangle.
NoSnowATL
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I agree Hispanics have it hard along with some blacks but racism happens to all skin colors including white. As a white guy I’ve been called a lot of things from some blacks. At the end of the day you keep your head up and try to represent yourself the best you can.
Also if a white person moves to a different country that's not predominantly white. I'm sure it's not pretty.
But it's not just the stutter. It's getting details all jumbled up or flat out not remembering. I'm looking forward to the debates.
Downeastnc
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Yeah not the same thing as systemic racism though......if your not white in America then the deck is stacked against you....its not even a cognitive thing its just the way the system is setup and why it needs to change....this wont happen over night but it wont happen at all until enough white people acknowledge it exist and work to change it because we are the only ones that can.
The average white family in the US is worth 170k, the average black family is worth 17k, this is because the system over the last hundred years or so has made it hard to impossible for black families to accumulate and pass on wealth. Every time I see a post about everyone can make it if they just work hard I roll my eyes because blacks have to work way harder than whites to make it, hell I know a lot of well off white people who dont do ---- and still have way more than the average hard working black/hispanic families etc....
Jessy89
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Lol not my family of 5 we make about 20k a year. I’m not better off then any race but I am pretty happy regardless. I work hard and try hard.
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LickWx
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I personally feel our nation has some balkanization going on! Black anthem white anthem black music white music black business white business etc. etc. We stopped being Americans first and instead reverted to a much lesser identity - race.
We all need to be Americans first again if we are ever to come together!
VegasEagle
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No $h!t... (AGAIN) so why is in 2020 do my children need to be black
No $h!t part two. So why can't my children not just be Americans? Is your opinions, just to give you a higher moral standing? Is it to pander for political points? Do you think you are really helping? I believe it is a mix of those on this board. But, It is not helping. Yes, there will be racism. Black people can be racist also. Did you know that black children can be viewed as racist to each other. Oh yes! Light skin taunting darker skin. There are bigger things slowing down the progress of black people. Thomas Sowell has done a great job showing how black people was on the rise before, the government made poor personal responsibility escapade.
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Downeastnc
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The problem though is that for a long time blacks were not really Americans, they have a completely different view of American history from whites....white America wants blacks to love the America that frankly ---- all over them until just recently.....also its never stopped being about race, it always has been.
Tornadocane
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When it results in people being constantly offended and not empowered that is the problem. I don't care what color you are if you live life being offended at everybody and everything you will never be successful.
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That’s one of many issues I have with the whole BLM movement. The overreaction to every slight is a never-ending abyss of actions and expressions that most people couldn’t even associate with racism. Something as simple as refusing to shake the hand of an African American you dislike for personal reasons is reflexively spun into some racist overture. Even constitutional, criminal justice values like “innocent until proven guilty” for someone accused of an assault or homicide against an African American individual is condemned or rationalized as a defense of racism. It’s irrational and hypocritical politicizing of every aspect of life, and it devolves any type of discussion into hysteria.
The problem simply boils down to lack of good leadership, and a lack consideration or policy planning among African American communities that you’d think would have a cogent list of policy proposals. Ask anyone in those protests for a solution, and they come up short every time. It’s all slogans. That’s when you get people advocating for policies like “defund the police”. Stupid. A movement that had the support of everyone this month has increased the odds that nothing is done. There's absolutely zero self-reflection.
Tornadocane
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I wore a kippa (Jewish hat) to school, and received all kinds of jokes about ovens. I was offended at the beginning until I realized that some of them were actually hysterical, and one of those jokesters became a life-long friend that took me on vacation with his family. Then there was some nice Hispanic kid at my school that was always respectful to me, but it came up in class that his parents didn't sign the permission for the class to watch schindler's list cause his family didn't believe in the Holocaust. He said, "We don't believe in the Holocaust".
What you just described in your post is like the first example. Mexican or Mexican't is something I've heard from multiple interactions with my friends, including my Hispanic friends of different national origins and my black friends. It ain't racism. It's more like you not seeing the forest from the trees.
VegasEagle
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Very true , but , it is what being taught and over played for political reasons.
The American flag represents an idea that all are free to live a just life. A right given by no man, therefore, no man ever take it away if they never could give. "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is why some get mad when others won't stand for it . Kneeling is seen as disrespectful .They have that right to kneel. Totally legal. But, standing with a black power fist, would be much more recepable as has been done in the past. Kneeling can be viewed as being self center and ignoran,t for,the many, many thousands of white Union soldiers that died to make all free under this flag.
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