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GaWx said:
Deblasio is a joke. Wasn’t he just a week or so ago cracking down on people walking in parks? What happened to the COVID lockdown?

Here is a quote from elsewhere:

“I am struggling to really care about these COVID orders from the governors and mayors when they are basically silent on the huge mobs in their cities who are surely spreading COVID to each other day and night. Makes it seem pretty silly to be worried about going to get a haircut, no?”

For the record, I have been and still remain concerned as much as before about COVID spread. I’m not suddenly changing my tune like so many on the left are doing.
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NoSnowATL said:
No it’s lost, the media wants hate and crime and division. I’m all for peaceful protest but you still have to follow the rules and laws. Not all police officers are bad just like how not all blacks are thugs. You will have bad seeds in all walks of life unfortunately but 2 violent acts don’t make a right.
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It's only lost if you choose to lose it. That's on you.
 
crecre9 said:
It's only lost if you choose to lose it. That's on you.
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Yea it lost me before it started, protest and riots don’t work. Having a black box on twitter and Instagram doesn’t work, canceling July 4th won’t work. Things will always happen that don’t make sense and you just have to try and be better. Hate never wins.
 
NoSnowATL said:
Yea it lost me before it started, protest and riots don’t work. Having a black box on twitter and Instagram doesn’t work, canceling July 4th won’t work. Things will always happen that don’t make sense and you just have to try and be better. Hate never wins.
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Okay, that's actually worse. So you just do not acknowledge the problems that are the cause of the protests and riots. You never lost it because you never had it or are ignoring it.
 
crecre9 said:
This thread essentially just confirms what I said. It's too uncomfortable for many to confront and discuss actual structural problems, so instead all they'll talk about is rioting and looting and will completely ignore why there are protests.
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Everybody was on the same page before the riots.
 
crecre9 said:
Okay, that's actually worse. So you just do not acknowledge the problems that are the cause of the protests and riots. You never lost it because you never had it or are ignoring it.
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The whole world has problems not just the black Americans. The poor me Mentality is old. All we can do is control ourselves and try to do the right thing.
 
crecre9 said:
Okay, that's actually worse. So you just do not acknowledge the problems that are the cause of the protests and riots. You never lost it because you never had it or are ignoring it.
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There is never a cause for a riot where you burn or loot innocent people’s property in a country where the poor are many times richer than the other two/thirds of the world, bar none. End of story.
 
crecre9 said:
Okay, that's actually worse. So you just do not acknowledge the problems that are the cause of the protests and riots. You never lost it because you never had it or are ignoring it.
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1. Why are you lumping together protests and riots? They are not even in the same ballpark. Riots are a nonstarter as far as most law abiding citizens are concerned.
2. Where does the concern about social distancing to limit the spread of COVID fit into all of this?
3. Don Lemon on CNN is a joke. He was practically giving the ok for rioting last night because some folks are "frustrated"
 
Arcc said:
There is never a cause for a riot where you burn or loot innocent people’s property in a country where the poor are many times richer than the other two/thirds of the world, bar none. End of story.
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You are a making up a strawman to knock it down. No one is saying riots are okay. You are continuing to not talk about the issue that is the current cause of protests and riots.
 
GaWx said:
1. Why are you lumping together protests and riots? They are not even in the same ballpark. Riots are a nonstarter as far as most law abiding citizens are concerned.
2. Where does the concern about social distancing to limit the spread of COVID fit into all of this?
3. Don Lemon on CNN is a joke. He was practically giving the ok for rioting last night because some folks are "frustrated"
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I'm not lumping together protests and riots. Are you?
I have plenty of concern for social distancing. Do you?
No one is supporting what he said.
You guys go make up and knock down strawmen somewhere else.
 
NoSnowATL said:
The whole world has problems not just the black Americans. The poor me Mentality is old. All we can do is control ourselves and try to do the right thing.
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Who has a poor me mentality? People who couldn't get a haircut because of pandemic related restrictions, or those being murdered by our own government with little to no consequences?
 
crecre9 said:
Who has a poor me mentality? People who couldn't get a haircut because of pandemic related restrictions, or those being murdered by our own government with little to no consequences?
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Is the government killing innocent people everyday? No. You can pick and choice what you will but one or 2 bad seeds isn’t a pattern. Yes it’s a problem but what’s happening now isn’t the solution.
 
crecre9 said:
You are a making up a strawman to knock it down. No one is saying riots are okay. You are continuing to not talk about the issue that is the current cause of protests and riots.
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There is NO cause to set fire to an innocent person’s business other than being an non-caring idiot. That is the cause right there.
 
crecre9 said:
I'm not lumping together protests and riots. Are you?
I have plenty of concern for social distancing. Do you?
No one is supporting what he said.
You guys go make up and knock down strawmen somewhere else.
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1. You said, "So you just do not acknowledge the problems that are the cause of the protests and riots." This made it seem to me like you were lumping them together/putting them together on the same playing field. My apologies if you didn't mean it that way.

2. Yes, I do. My concern about COVID hasn't suddenly dropped like it has for many on the far left.

3. Unfortunately, I'm sure many on the far left are supporting Lemon on the riots even if they won't admit it. You didn't say anything about him but I thought it was important to mention his insanity in being OK with riots since I'm discussing and am disgusted with the riots..

4. Who are you referring to by saying "you guys"? If you think I'm on the far right, you're mistaken. I'm a right of center moderate/independent who is not a Trump supporter.
 
You guys are missing the point. None of the looting or violence is justified but you have to take a look at what drove these people to go into the streets to perpetrate these acts. They are not oblivious to the fact that these acts will likely cause personal loss, yet they choose to continue. Sure you can beat them, arrest them and much worse but there are a lot of them. Everytime a protester is forcefully removed it gives the movement more traction. This is happening for a reason and not because someone wants a free TV. How about we figure out why and just address that.
 
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frazdaddy said:
You guys are missing the point. None of the looting or violence is justified but you have to take a look at what drove these people to go into the streets to perpetrate these acts. They are not oblivious to the fact that these acts will likely cause personal loss, yet they choose to continue. Sure you can beat them, arrest them and much worse but there are a lot of them. Everytime a protester is forcefully removed it gives the movement more traction. How about we figure out why and just address that. This is happening for a reason and not because someone wants a free TV.
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There is also the issue of leaders doing a better job of minimizing their frequency before the damage to businesses, many of which are black owned and/or employ black folks, is done. The message that looting/rioting won't be tolerated needs to be firm and be dealt with proactively like it was done very well here in Savannah. Our mayor, who is black and is a Democrat, got on TV on Saturday and said he had gotten hints that rioters were coming to town the next day. He said Savannah wouldn't tolerate that mess and he also got the backing of Gov Kemp through added National Guard troops. On Sunday, all there was was a very peaceful march. That's how leaders should deal with this. Contrast that to other cities.
 
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GaWx said:
There is also the issue of leaders doing a better job of minimizing their frequency before the damage to businesses, which of which are black owned and/or employ black folks, is done. The message that looting/rioting won't be tolerated needs to be firm and be dealt with proactively like it was done very well here in Savannah. Our mayor, who is black and is a Democrat, got on TV on Saturday and said he had gotten hints that rioters were coming to town the next day. He said Savannah wouldn't tolerate that mess and he also got the backing of Gov Kemp through added National Guard troops. On Sunday, all there was was a very peaceful march. That's how leaders should deal with this. Contrast that to other cities.
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That's great Larry, and awesome for Savannah. Problem is all of our leadership teams are not that savvy and more often than not fighting each other publicly. As I said, you can drive it underground but it will continue. The national problem has come to a head and it is time for us all to be better and address it on a national scale.
 
frazdaddy said:
That's great Larry, and awesome for Savannah. Problem is all of our leadership teams are not that savvy and more often than not fighting each other publicly. As I said, you can drive it underground but it will continue. The national problem has come to a head and it is time for us all to be better and address it on a national scale.
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To add to my point that all is not well in Ga or anywhere else I will leave this here
https://abcnews.go.com/US/atlanta-police-officers-charged-forceful-arrests-college-students/story?id=71023836
 
frazdaddy said:
You guys are missing the point. None of the looting or violence is justified but you have to take a look at what drove these people to go into the streets to perpetrate these acts. They are not oblivious to the fact that these acts will likely cause personal loss, yet they choose to continue. Sure you can beat them, arrest them and much worse but there are a lot of them. Everytime a protester is forcefully removed it gives the movement more traction. This is happening for a reason and not because someone wants a free TV. How about we figure out why and just address that.
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Ok, so which group are we trying to figure out? We have Antifa, BLM, non-affiliated non-whites, whites, and others. Why are they doing riots and looting?

What is the purpose of protesting? What do they want to achieve?
 
weatherfide said:
Ok, so which group are we trying to figure out? We have Antifa, BLM, non-affiliated non-whites, whites, and others. Why are they doing riots and looting?

What is the purpose of protesting? What do they want to achieve?
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That's what we need to figure out. If you don't like the way things are going, either whine or figure out how to change it. I think it's time we quit whining and figure it out.
 
No knock means they kick the door in with no warning. The charges against the man in Louisville whose girlfriend was shot 8 times were dropped as it was ruled he acted in self defense. He shot an officer when they kicked the door in. Super James ninjaed me
 
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