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No duh
NCSNOW
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Your right there is nothing to debate cause it was a made up hoax, failed coupe attempt. And I do care, care about preventing this from ever happening again regardless of whos in office.
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AG Barr: FBI Tried To ‘Trap’ Flynn, I Believe Comey Was Driving It, Was ‘Part Of’ Pattern Against Trump
By Daily Wire NewsDailyWire.com
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Attorney General William Barr told CBS News investigative reporter Catherine Herridge during an interview that aired on Thursday that he believes the FBI under the leadership of former FBI Director James Comey laid a perjury trap for former national security adviser Michael Flynn and that it was part of a larger pattern of conduct presumably against President Donald Trump.
Herridge asked Barr if the new evidence showed “that the counterintelligence case against General Flynn was simply left open to lay a trap for lying?”
“Yes. Essentially. They had started a counterintelligence investigation during the summer, as you know, related to the campaign. But in December, the team, the Crossfire Hurricane team, was closing that and determined they had found nothing to justify continuing with that investigation against Flynn,” Barr responded. “On the very day they prepared the final papers, the seventh floor, that is the director’s office and the deputy director’s office up there, sent down word they should keep that open. So that they could try to go and question Flynn about this call he had with the Russian ambassador.”
Barr explained that for Flynn, who was already the designated national security adviser for President-Elect Trump, it would have been “very typical” and “very common” for someone in his position to talk with leaders of a foreign nation as part of an incoming administration.
Barr said that U.S. Attorney John Durham is continuing his criminal investigation into the origins of the Russia investigation.
“This is one particular episode, but we view it as part of a number of related acts,” Barr continued. “And we’re looking at the whole pattern of conduct.”
Barr said that the pattern of conduct spanned before and after the election of Trump.
“I think a very important evidence here was that this was not a bona fide counterintelligence investigation – was that they were closing the investigation in December. They started that process. And on January 4th, they were closing it,” Barr said. “They initially tried some theories of how they could open another investigation, which didn’t fly. And then they found out that they had not technically closed the earlier investigation. And they kept it open for the express purpose of trying to catch, lay a perjury trap for General Flynn.”
“They didn’t warn him, the way we usually would be required by the Department,” Barr continued. “They bypassed the Justice Department. They bypassed the protocols at the White House and so forth. These were things that persuaded me that there was not a legitimate counterintelligence investigation going on.”
Barr later added that there “was no underlying investigation that was legitimate” and that “the whole exercise was just about creating the lie.”
Later, when asked who was “driving this” at the FBI, Barr responded, “I believe it’s Director Comey and the deputy’s office.”
By Daily Wire NewsDailyWire.com
00:09
Attorney General William Barr told CBS News investigative reporter Catherine Herridge during an interview that aired on Thursday that he believes the FBI under the leadership of former FBI Director James Comey laid a perjury trap for former national security adviser Michael Flynn and that it was part of a larger pattern of conduct presumably against President Donald Trump.
Herridge asked Barr if the new evidence showed “that the counterintelligence case against General Flynn was simply left open to lay a trap for lying?”
“Yes. Essentially. They had started a counterintelligence investigation during the summer, as you know, related to the campaign. But in December, the team, the Crossfire Hurricane team, was closing that and determined they had found nothing to justify continuing with that investigation against Flynn,” Barr responded. “On the very day they prepared the final papers, the seventh floor, that is the director’s office and the deputy director’s office up there, sent down word they should keep that open. So that they could try to go and question Flynn about this call he had with the Russian ambassador.”
Barr explained that for Flynn, who was already the designated national security adviser for President-Elect Trump, it would have been “very typical” and “very common” for someone in his position to talk with leaders of a foreign nation as part of an incoming administration.
Barr said that U.S. Attorney John Durham is continuing his criminal investigation into the origins of the Russia investigation.
“This is one particular episode, but we view it as part of a number of related acts,” Barr continued. “And we’re looking at the whole pattern of conduct.”
Barr said that the pattern of conduct spanned before and after the election of Trump.
“I think a very important evidence here was that this was not a bona fide counterintelligence investigation – was that they were closing the investigation in December. They started that process. And on January 4th, they were closing it,” Barr said. “They initially tried some theories of how they could open another investigation, which didn’t fly. And then they found out that they had not technically closed the earlier investigation. And they kept it open for the express purpose of trying to catch, lay a perjury trap for General Flynn.”
“They didn’t warn him, the way we usually would be required by the Department,” Barr continued. “They bypassed the Justice Department. They bypassed the protocols at the White House and so forth. These were things that persuaded me that there was not a legitimate counterintelligence investigation going on.”
Barr later added that there “was no underlying investigation that was legitimate” and that “the whole exercise was just about creating the lie.”
Later, when asked who was “driving this” at the FBI, Barr responded, “I believe it’s Director Comey and the deputy’s office.”
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Trump says 'more to come' on Russia probe documents, in 'Fox & Friends' inter
By Tyler Olson, Ed Henry |
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Trump sounds off on Russia probe agenda, gives update on COVID-19 response on 'Fox & Friends'
President Donald Trump calls into 'Fox & Friends' to discuss the latest revelations in the Russia probe, the White House's response to coronavirus and his valet's diagnosis and more.
President Trump, in a Friday morning interview on "Fox & Friends," said there would be "more to come" after the release of a trove of House Intelligence Committee transcripts -- which showed Obama-era officials saying they had no "empirical evidence" of the Trump campaign conspiring with Russia to gain an edge in the 2016 election.
The Trump comments come after sources told Fox News on Thursday night that a further document release could take place in the coming days. Sources said the tranche of documents would be "a bombshell," hinting that the documents would show high-level Obama administration involvement in the origin of the Russia investigation.
By Tyler Olson, Ed Henry |
VideoTrump sounds off on Russia probe agenda, gives update on COVID-19 response on 'Fox & Friends'
President Donald Trump calls into 'Fox & Friends' to discuss the latest revelations in the Russia probe, the White House's response to coronavirus and his valet's diagnosis and more.
President Trump, in a Friday morning interview on "Fox & Friends," said there would be "more to come" after the release of a trove of House Intelligence Committee transcripts -- which showed Obama-era officials saying they had no "empirical evidence" of the Trump campaign conspiring with Russia to gain an edge in the 2016 election.
The Trump comments come after sources told Fox News on Thursday night that a further document release could take place in the coming days. Sources said the tranche of documents would be "a bombshell," hinting that the documents would show high-level Obama administration involvement in the origin of the Russia investigation.
Shaggy
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AG Barr: FBI Tried To ‘Trap’ Flynn, I Believe Comey Was Driving It, Was ‘Part Of’ Pattern Against Trump
By Daily Wire NewsDailyWire.com
Michael Brochstein/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images
00:09
Attorney General William Barr told CBS News investigative reporter Catherine Herridge during an interview that aired on Thursday that he believes the FBI under the leadership of former FBI Director James Comey laid a perjury trap for former national security adviser Michael Flynn and that it was part of a larger pattern of conduct presumably against President Donald Trump.
Herridge asked Barr if the new evidence showed “that the counterintelligence case against General Flynn was simply left open to lay a trap for lying?”
“Yes. Essentially. They had started a counterintelligence investigation during the summer, as you know, related to the campaign. But in December, the team, the Crossfire Hurricane team, was closing that and determined they had found nothing to justify continuing with that investigation against Flynn,” Barr responded. “On the very day they prepared the final papers, the seventh floor, that is the director’s office and the deputy director’s office up there, sent down word they should keep that open. So that they could try to go and question Flynn about this call he had with the Russian ambassador.”
Barr explained that for Flynn, who was already the designated national security adviser for President-Elect Trump, it would have been “very typical” and “very common” for someone in his position to talk with leaders of a foreign nation as part of an incoming administration.
Barr said that U.S. Attorney John Durham is continuing his criminal investigation into the origins of the Russia investigation.
“This is one particular episode, but we view it as part of a number of related acts,” Barr continued. “And we’re looking at the whole pattern of conduct.”
Barr said that the pattern of conduct spanned before and after the election of Trump.
“I think a very important evidence here was that this was not a bona fide counterintelligence investigation – was that they were closing the investigation in December. They started that process. And on January 4th, they were closing it,” Barr said. “They initially tried some theories of how they could open another investigation, which didn’t fly. And then they found out that they had not technically closed the earlier investigation. And they kept it open for the express purpose of trying to catch, lay a perjury trap for General Flynn.”
“They didn’t warn him, the way we usually would be required by the Department,” Barr continued. “They bypassed the Justice Department. They bypassed the protocols at the White House and so forth. These were things that persuaded me that there was not a legitimate counterintelligence investigation going on.”
Barr later added that there “was no underlying investigation that was legitimate” and that “the whole exercise was just about creating the lie.”
Later, when asked who was “driving this” at the FBI, Barr responded, “I believe it’s Director Comey and the deputy’s office.”
Barr is a trump lackey hand picked after his op ed resume of pick me pick me........I wouldnt trust barr no further than i could throw him. He is a disgrace as bad as trump is.
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It’s about saving one life from this virus. It’s not about this possible 75k right. Oh look it’s CBS! Probably will be no a reliable news source after this article.
NCSNOW
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She speaks the truth. Love it!
NCSNOW
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You guys use the same play book everytime you get called out. Instead of debating the evidence,disproving it if its wrong. You lump sum everyone as a hack,white nationalist, disgrace,wants to starve children, pour oil in everyones tap water etc. Lol.
Shaggy
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Theres evidence of collusion but not criminality. We have trump on camera asking for russia to get her emails. We have Jr meeting Russians on the pretense of getting dirt we have an advisor trying to set up meetings with Russians.
I know all I need to know.
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Deleted member 527
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There is plenty that is fixing to come out about Obama and Biden and the Ukraine. The Liberals are in disaster mode knowing their plans are not working out.
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Deleted member 527
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Oh Joe ??
I've done that before.
So how many more people do you think are going to die from the virus? 1?
Sandbar
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Its like dealing with a 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum!
Shaggy
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Fixed your post
Sandbar
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^ Rest my case right here
Shaggy
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You're just upset the truth hurts about your boy trump. Biggest man baby in history.
Sandbar
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As a grown man, I dont tend to let other grown men disturb my sleep at night.
Downeastnc
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See this is where you go off the rails because of your TDS.....you believe Trump is innocent and that its all a hoax blah blah blah this is called gas lighting and Trump does it better than anyone.....its a classic case of if Trump tell's the same lie enough times it becomes the truth.....Trump convincing all of you that the media is evil was brilliant.....the only source of "truth" for you is Trump and his subordinates/lackeys....what do you really expect them to tell you the truth.....
NCSNOW
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Problem is, its not Trump proving this, its the facts and all those documents being released. Mr Durham will be bringing Criminal Charges here within 1 to 2 months.
Downeastnc
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I have heard for YEARS now that criminal charges are coming for Comey and Dems etc.....remember when it was Horowitz who was going to bring down the hammer etc etc.........I know this time is different lol....your being gas lighted, stung along, played for a fool.....all to give the Trump faithful something other than the truth to latch onto.....its no mistake all this is coming out now, Trump needs to distract from how poorly they handled Corona and how the economy is in bad shape etc
To interrupt the current wheel chair sumo wrestling, this would allow me to become completely debt free in under a year. This is ridiculous thinking. Load up on debt if something stupid like this passes.
www.forbes.com
$2,000 Per Person Plus $2,000 Per Child: Monthly Economic Crisis Support Act Would Send Payments To Over 90% Of Americans
A Senate draft proposal would create a monthly benefit to the vast majority of Americans.
www.forbes.com
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No obviously that is not likely. Would be nice 0 more die from it but that is not likely either. I really have no idea. I don’t want to predict because obviously every single prediction has been wrong. We all know some will die. I could be one of those. It will not be because I was not careful and respecting social distancing with others that prefer that. Today I was at a customers and some in there don’t care about the 6 ft rule. Fist bumped another customer today. My chances of dying from this virus are much less than having a heart attack or in a vehicle or getting cancer. I am living each day and enjoying life. Laughs are plenty especially right now.
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If this happens it’s game set match for America. The question will then be how many years before the complete collapse happens. When gas is $5 a gallon and bread $15 and milk $20 and groceries in general are 100% higher. Talk about social chaos then. Say hello Valenzuela America. I read today some of their groceries are more than a weekly salary for most.To interrupt the current wheel chair sumo wrestling, this would allow me to become completely debt free in under a year. This is ridiculous thinking. Load up on debt if something stupid like this passes.
$2,000 Per Person Plus $2,000 Per Child: Monthly Economic Crisis Support Act Would Send Payments To Over 90% Of Americans
A Senate draft proposal would create a monthly benefit to the vast majority of Americans.
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Good one Shaggy. ???
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The economy is in bad shape because of the virus. Has nothing to do with Trump. If the libs and Democrats keep their states closed then they will be on their way out when the time comes for them.
Love this,
“I never thought I would
see a time that so many
people were so afraid of
dying that they were willing
to stop living.”
Posted on Facebook by a dear friend of mine.
Round Oak Weather
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My question to a lot of people is how long do we keep these things in place at stores. I don’t feel like going to a store two years from now and seeing my cashier standing behind plexi glass and wearing a mask. That’s just very uncomfortable to me and way past where we as a people should be.
Round Oak Weather
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I’ve also become uncomfortable with the stimulus plans that have been put in place and how much debt we’ve added almost a quarter of what the debt was originally that’s astronomical. This won’t get put off on the older people or the middle aged it will get put on the backs of the younger people and our children to pay the interest on the debt. Was it truly worth it to put a already heavy but even heavier burden on the future generations? This is a question I ask myself every day.
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This will be on anyone that is paying taxes and working in the next 2-3 years. Hard times have really not even started. Especially if they pass this $2k a month stimulus. I’d be really surprised if some Kinda war does not start if the world sinks into a depression that lasts. History says that’s always what happens. Now has the world learned from history? Looking at our govt. and the worlds govts. I don’t think they have. Plus most countries are lining up against China. Asking China to let investigators into their country to see about this virus. China has said no. Plus all the companies leaving China is not going to sit well with them. I agree with leaving their country but they will be losing money and jobs. Along with what this virus has done to them. With the billons living there and loss of jobs depending on their govt. Its not going to be pretty. India has lost 110 million jobs was written yesterday. That is crazy. Many countries are not happy with China and if it gets proven this virus was deliberate. Then war will surely happen.
Shaggy
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We "as a people" are just another living organism and nothing more. If this tiny invisible virus is still spreading and wreaking havoc in 2 years I'm sure some of these measures will still be in place.
Shaggy
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Then surely you were against Trumps tax breaks? I mean they added tons to the debt because he cut taxes while extended the debt ceiling so we were already expanding debt at a faster rate than under Obama.
Shaggy
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Hordes of child slaves- check
Starving fathers murdering their neighbors over food- check
WWIII- check
Realeased prisoners rioting-check
Yet we are the ones living in fear. Sigh
Downeastnc
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Pretty damaging stuff IMO, this is what happens when unqualified people are given jobs they can not handle.....
Shaggy
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It wont matter. Ostriches cant see with their heads buried in the sand.
They wanted to reopen and the CDC gave them the guidance on how to do it safely and correct and trump killed it.......it doesnt matter anymore to his followers.
MichaelJ
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Liberals will be the first to cry, gnash their teeth and wonder what happened when this country implodes. Look in the mirror folks and there is your answer. To think we can keep giving all of our money to the government (any government Rep or Dem) and have them spend it wisely is in never never land. Reps do a little better job than Dems but either way we are toast IMO, Dems will just have it happen a little sooner
Both parties are corrupt beyond repair. They're getting just what they want -- growing division among the people. The media and corporate America are part of it. It allows for the continued power and wealth transfer to the top while everyone is fighting over dumb things.
Of course Trump colluded by seeking dirt on his opponent. But if you think others haven't done similar things, then you have your head in the sand. The only difference is the methodology.
But it doesn't matter. Everyone is so busy arguing about one hot topic or one crisis after another, that we have allowed the political pot to slowly come to a boil. And now we're all faced with a calamitous future. There are no good solutions to any of our problems from this point. It's going to be a matter of which choice is the least bad.
If we survive as a nation, maybe next time we will pay more attention and stop letting people pull the wool over our eyes. Hopefully we will learn. Hopefully.
Downeastnc
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Trump is raising the deficit faster than ANY other president....I agree though its not going to be any different under a Dem the point is though that is is suppose to be different under a Rep president and that has not been the case in a long while....
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