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Shaggy said:
Yeah that monumental goal post shift shows up again. Remember when trump said we only had 15 cases that were going down to zero? As deaths march on the bar is raised to when some people will believe this is serious. Maybe when we hit 100k deaths it might matter to the death squad.....probably not though.

I bet those same ones saying the elderly have to take their chances were the same ones crying that the ACA had death boards to decide who lives and dies.
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Well my mom 72 yo cancer survivor goes out. We have been with my in laws whose in their 70’s. They are being safe but living. Shaggy I’m not sure why you call us death squads when you have been going out to store and Lowe’s. You can order your food from online and have it delivered. You could be spreading it or picking up the virus at the grocery store.
 
Downeastnc said:
Yeah and now Trump is playing it like 70K deaths means we won since 200k didn't die, so re-elect him cause he saved all those lives by banning flights from China lol....this of course ignoring the months of downplaying and doing nothing Trump did to protect his re-election chances the stock market/economy at the possible expense of American lives......
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When are you and Shaggy going to go to a food bank and tell all those people your sacrifice losing your job and supporting your family we’re worth saving lives.
 
Matthew70 said:
Sure. Then let’s make sure when flu comes around to count heart attacks, strokes and other medical conditions as flu deaths also. It does not matter. All these numbers are wrong. Guaranteed it’s 2-3 times as many have had this virus already than we will ever know. It’s just another way to make people scared. What we do know is most hospitals are not over run and that’s why we sip and shut down economy for. The states can monitor and react accordingly if certain areas becomes hot spots.
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They do count those deaths as flu deaths......they also count every pneumonia death regardless of cause in those numbers.....the difference here is several fold....

In a bad year you might see 20-60k deaths from flu, flu like illnesses and pneumonia the CDC list them all together.....on March 30th there were a little over 4k COVID deaths on April 30 there were 60K.....so 55k people or about the average we see in a entire year with the flu died in 1 MONTH.....and that is with shutting everything down.....55k people in ONE MONTH....now imagine we had not done anything.....even if it only doubled that's 100k in a month, now do that times a year and that 2 million number you scoffed at up thread doesn't seem so silly does it....
 
Downeastnc said:
They do count those deaths as flu deaths......they also count every pneumonia death regardless of cause in those numbers.....the difference here is several fold....

In a bad year you might see 20-60k deaths from flu, flu like illnesses and pneumonia the CDC list them all together.....on March 30th there were a little over 4k COVID deaths on April 30 there were 60K.....so 55k people or about the average we see in a entire year with the flu died in 1 MONTH.....and that is with shutting everything down.....55k people in ONE MONTH....now imagine we had not done anything.....even if it only doubled that's 100k in a month, now do that times a year and that 2 million number you scoffed at up thread doesn't seem so silly does it....
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So now your saying that our government's leaders did a good job in saving lives? Man, you are confusing me.
 
Cad Wedge NC said:
So now your saying that our government's leaders did a good job in saving lives? Man, you are confusing me.
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Yes the governors of the states have done a excellent job for the most part.....the Fed response not so much.....had it been better and more timely then I imagine some of these deaths may have been avoided....
 
Downeastnc said:
Yes the governors of the states have done a excellent job for the most part.....the Fed response not so much.....had it been better and more timely then I imagine some of these deaths may have been avoided....
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Lolol.....dude you are comical. Cant get out of your own way!
 
Downeastnc said:
You give Trump a lot of credit, he is not much of a businessman, he has had money his entire life and most people that had the kind of money Trump had back in the 80's made billions more than he did....Trump is a bloviated, self centered egotistical maniac, who does not care about anything but himself, heck even today he bashed GW Bush's very presidential and sane message of unity because GW Bush didn't defend Trump in his deserved impeachment,....Trump is mentally unstable, and has no business leading this great nation.
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Here's the link: unity is apparently a bad thing to Trump. I thought he was for a stronger America. Reagan and even GWB he is not!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...onavirus-outbreak/ar-BB13xd1J?ocid=spartanntp
 
Sandbar said:
Lolol.....dude you are comical. Cant get out of your own way!
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It was the governors that started shutting down schools and businesses while Trump made empty promises of 15 going to zero, or saying over a month ago that in a week anyone that wants a test can get one and they couldnt….I could go on but you get the picture....
 
Speaking to Rolling Stone in 2015, he said of her: “She's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father...’”

this is our fuhrer talking about his daughter. What a sick twisted soul.
 
Man these didn’t take long to age terribly.
Again Trumps exact quotes


Feb. 26: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” — Trump at a press conference.

Feb. 26: “I think every aspect of our society should be prepared. I don’t think it’s going to come to that, especially with the fact that we’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” — Trump at a press conference, when asked if “U.S. schools should be preparing for a coronavirus spreading.”

Feb. 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” — Trump at a White House meeting with African American leaders.
 
Downeastnc said:
It was the governors that started shutting down schools and businesses while Trump made empty promises of 15 going to zero, or saying over a month ago that in a week anyone that wants a test can get one and they couldnt….I could go on but you get the picture....
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It was Trump who allowed the "States" to handle the shut down as they see fit....AS IT SHOULD BE! Im sure you can go on one of your Google searches and find the positive remarks from the governers of these states praising the President's leadership and response. Of course you dont understand the meaning of the words "positive" and "leadership"
 
Sandbar said:
It was Trump who allowed the "States" to handle the shut down as they see fit....AS IT SHOULD BE! Im sure you can go on one of your Google searches and find the positive remarks from the governers of these states praising the President's leadership and response. Of course you dont understand the meaning of the words "positive" and "leadership"
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LOL.....Trump could not stop them from doing what they want to do...... little thing called the Constitution.....
 
If I were so inclined, I could find a quote, an article, a source, to back up any position I might choose to take ... glad in my line of work I'm trained not to do so ...
 
Matthew70 said:
Well my mom 72 yo cancer survivor goes out. We have been with my in laws whose in their 70’s. They are being safe but living. Shaggy I’m not sure why you call us death squads when you have been going out to store and Lowe’s. You can order your food from online and have it delivered. You could be spreading it or picking up the virus at the grocery store.
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I call you the death squad because you're willing to accept deaths in any numbers to reopen the economy.

How about telling this girl thank you for her parents sacrifice and it's now time to open the economy.

www.yahoo.com

After a Lifetime Together, Coronavirus Takes Them Both

For most of her life, Maranda Lender, 32, has lived with her parents in Lewisberry, Pennsylvania.An only child, she grew up doted on by a mother and father who took her to golf lessons, soccer games and orchestra rehearsals (she played the viola). After she graduated from design school, she...
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pcbjr said:
If I were so inclined, I could find a quote, an article, a source, to back up any position I might choose to take ... glad in my line of work I'm trained not to do so ...
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Do you think the quoted words above your leader has spoken are in any way appropriate? Your thinly veiled approval of his words is surprising.
 
LithiaWx said:
Do you think the quoted words above your leader has spoken are in any way appropriate? Your thinly veiled approval of his words is surprising.
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I do not follow at all what you are saying or implying ... but to be clear, anyone can find something to base rationalization on ... Clear enough? I did not say someone was right or wrong ... only that error can be found anywhere for the non-discerning ... Clear enough?

Or does that raise an issue with you?
 
pcbjr said:
I do not follow at all what you are saying or implying ... but to be clear, anyone can find something to base rationalization on ... Clear enough? I did not say someone was right or wrong ... only that error can be found anywhere for the non-discerning ... Clear enough?
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No not really? Do you find the quotes I posted above inappropriate? How do you characterize them? I’m seeing tepid approval from your responses.
 
LithiaWx said:
Speaking to Rolling Stone in 2015, he said of her: “She's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father...’”

this is our fuhrer talking about his daughter. What a sick twisted soul.
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But creepy uncle joe
 
LithiaWx said:
No not really? Do you find the quotes I posted above inappropriate? How do you characterize them? I’m seeing tepid approval from your responses.
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You need to take a nap, rest your brain, and re-read what I said ... you are dreaming meanings from thin air into something that was never remotely even thought of, or much less suggested ...
 
pcbjr said:
You need to take a nap, rest your brain, and re-read what I said ... you are dreaming meanings from thin air into something that was never remotely even thought of, or much less suggested ...
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lol you took a thinly veiled stab at me and the quotes I posted. I read it just fine. I’m surprised you won’t address what I wrote directly instead of the passive aggressive attacks.

I’ll ask you again but don’t expect you to answer. Do you approve of the quotes above that were word for word what your president has said?
 
LithiaWx said:
lol you took a thinly veiled stab at me and the quotes I posted. I read it just fine. I’m surprised you won’t address what I wrote directly instead of the passive aggressive attacks.

I’ll ask you again but don’t expect you to answer. Do you approve of the quotes above that were word for word what your president has said?
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@pcbjr does not have to approve or disapprove of your quotes.
 
LithiaWx said:
lol you took a thinly veiled stab at me and the quotes I posted. I read it just fine. I’m surprised you won’t address what I wrote directly instead of the passive aggressive attacks.

I’ll ask you again but don’t expect you to answer. Do you approve of the quotes above that were word for word what your president has said?
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You sir, really need a nap. You are delirious. I did not take a stab at you, thinly veiled or otherwise. I made no attack at you or anyone else. Your perceived reading is frankly, and quite regrettably, but quite truthfully, in total error. Furthermore, I have not addressed anywhere here what the President has said, or not said. You sir, need a nap.
 
LithiaWx said:
lol you took a thinly veiled stab at me and the quotes I posted. I read it just fine. I’m surprised you won’t address what I wrote directly instead of the passive aggressive attacks.

I’ll ask you again but don’t expect you to answer. Do you approve of the quotes above that were word for word what your president has said?
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You're very angry today. Are you alright?
 
Downeastnc said:
They do count those deaths as flu deaths......they also count every pneumonia death regardless of cause in those numbers.....the difference here is several fold....

In a bad year you might see 20-60k deaths from flu, flu like illnesses and pneumonia the CDC list them all together.....on March 30th there were a little over 4k COVID deaths on April 30 there were 60K.....so 55k people or about the average we see in a entire year with the flu died in 1 MONTH.....and that is with shutting everything down.....55k people in ONE MONTH....now imagine we had not done anything.....even if it only doubled that's 100k in a month, now do that times a year and that 2 million number you scoffed at up thread doesn't seem so silly does it....
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We’ll definitely more and more evidence is pointing to the death rate is much lower and is nose diving below 1%. Now 88 homeless in Nashville have it. Want to guess how many have no symptoms? 0!
Along with the prisons 1800 and only 2 with symptoms and another 1300 prisoners with 0 symptoms. Either the tests are wrong or this whole virus was overblown. So ok we shut things down but with all these prisoners and homeless having it sure makes it seem it’s not what press made it seem. How many doctors and nurses and hospitals have said they are not over full and are laying off. I’d say this virus has been around a lot longer also than previously thought. Proof is not many police, medical personnel, firefighters, military and govt officials have gotten real sick with this virus nor passed away.
 
Bham 99 said:
@pcbjr does not have to approve or disapprove of your quotes.
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they aren’t my quotes. Those are word for word quotes said by your president*

EV_WS said:
You're very angry today. Are you alright?
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I’m good, just disgusted at what your president* has said


pcbjr said:
Nor does anyone else ... but the big suppostion here is that I was even addressing something he said ... which I was not
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Yeah you were referring to the quotes I posted. You can follow the thread progression and see the passive aggressive post you made.

Your non rejection of the words your president* has spoken is truly telling. I’m sad to know you support his disgusting behavior and damaging comments that I highlighted above.
 
LithiaWx said:
they aren’t my quotes. Those are word for word quotes said by your president*



I’m good, just disgusted at what your president* has said




Yeah you were referring to the quotes I posted. You can follow the thread progression and see the passive aggressive post you made.

Your non rejection of the words your president* has spoken is truly telling. I’m sad to know you support his disgusting behavior and damaging comments that I highlighted above.
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You sir, need a nap. A good long one. Wake up and smell the roses and not your own poop ...
 
On Hillary Clinton

10. "If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband, what makes her think she can satisfy America?” [April 16, 2015]

11. "She got schlonged." [Dec. 21, 2015]

12. On Clinton taking a bathroom break at a Democratic debate: "I know where she went, it's disgusting, I don't want to talk about it … No, it's too disgusting. Don't say it, it's disgusting." [Dec. 21, 2015]

President* Trumps own words
 
On Rosie O'Donnell

32. "We're all a little chubby but Rosie's just worse than most of us. But it's not the chubbiness — Rosie is a very unattractive person, both inside and out." [2006]

33. "Rosie's a person who's very lucky to have her girlfriend and she better be careful or I'll send one of my friends over to pick up her girlfriend. Why would she stay with Rosie if she had another choice?" [2006]

34. “If I were running The View, I'd fire Rosie O'Donnell. I mean, I'd look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I'd say, 'Rosie, you're fired.'" [2006]

35. "Can you imagine the parents of Kelli ... when she said, 'Mom, Dad, I just fell in love with a big, fat pig named Rosie?'" [Dec. 29, 2006]

And some of your support this monster
 
LithiaWx said:
On Rosie O'Donnell

32. "We're all a little chubby but Rosie's just worse than most of us. But it's not the chubbiness — Rosie is a very unattractive person, both inside and out." [2006]

33. "Rosie's a person who's very lucky to have her girlfriend and she better be careful or I'll send one of my friends over to pick up her girlfriend. Why would she stay with Rosie if she had another choice?" [2006]

34. “If I were running The View, I'd fire Rosie O'Donnell. I mean, I'd look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I'd say, 'Rosie, you're fired.'" [2006]

35. "Can you imagine the parents of Kelli ... when she said, 'Mom, Dad, I just fell in love with a big, fat pig named Rosie?'" [Dec. 29, 2006]

And some of your support this monster
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Hes just stating the truth there ?
 
LithiaWx said:
On Hillary Clinton

10. "If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband, what makes her think she can satisfy America?” [April 16, 2015]

11. "She got schlonged." [Dec. 21, 2015]

12. On Clinton taking a bathroom break at a Democratic debate: "I know where she went, it's disgusting, I don't want to talk about it … No, it's too disgusting. Don't say it, it's disgusting." [Dec. 21, 2015]

President* Trumps own words
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I agree with you that Trump is an absolutely awful human being and a bad POTUS (I can hardly stand the jerk), but please don't be so harsh on @pcbjr. He doesn't deserve disrespect from anyone, even if you do perceive him to support Trump. He's almost never combative and doesn't like it when it isn't peaceful. As a matter of fact, I think he kind of hates this thread.
 
On Ivanka Trump, his daughter

42. "She does have a very nice figure ... if [she] weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her." [June 4, 2004]

43. When asked if Ivanka, then 24, had breast implants: "She's actually always been very voluptuous." [2006]

On Melania Trump, his wife

44. When asked if he would stay with her if she was disfigured in a car crash: "How do the breasts look?" [April 11, 2005]

On Tiffany Trump, his daughter

45. "Well, I think that she's got a lot of Marla. She's a really beautiful baby, and she's got Marla's legs." Motioning to his chest, Trump added: "We don't know whether she's got this part yet, but time will tell." [1994]
 
LithiaWx said:
On Rosie O'Donnell

32. "We're all a little chubby but Rosie's just worse than most of us. But it's not the chubbiness — Rosie is a very unattractive person, both inside and out." [2006]

33. "Rosie's a person who's very lucky to have her girlfriend and she better be careful or I'll send one of my friends over to pick up her girlfriend. Why would she stay with Rosie if she had another choice?" [2006]

34. “If I were running The View, I'd fire Rosie O'Donnell. I mean, I'd look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I'd say, 'Rosie, you're fired.'" [2006]

35. "Can you imagine the parents of Kelli ... when she said, 'Mom, Dad, I just fell in love with a big, fat pig named Rosie?'" [Dec. 29, 2006]

And some of your support this monster
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Did you support Clinton? Look we all have our likes and dislikes. Grow up. You have made your point. There is not a single politician that their character is not flawed.
 
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