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The Democrats are faced with a big decision. Continue to try and wish Donald Trump away or offer up an alternative to the voters. So far the wishing him away has backfired and made them look like desperate fools. I don't think the socialism movement is going to end well for them either. The economy is booming and prospering for "the majority of us", our military is strong and despite what some want us all to believe, we are respected. More work needs to be done for certain but with the country so deeply divided politically its going to take somebody arrogant and confident enough to take the bull by the horns to get things done. Sometimes you have to solve a problem with a skillset known as brute force!

So glad to see Trump fully recognize the accomplishments of our military men and women last night. My time has come and gone but I am still involved with training them and they are doing a phenomenal job with the GWOT!
 
Fountainguy97 said:
So the question becomes: Is Bernie too left to win the election? I find it hard to believe that there are enough voters willing to vote for him and socialism
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Yes he is too left and that is why the dems are going to squash him out. They will maneuver in who they think has the best chance to beat Trump. They are going to do it to him again. Everyone should question the app situ...
 
EV_WS said:
Nancy just ripped up the physical speech, on air, after the SOTU in her petulant childlike way! Incredibly DUMB!
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And that just got DJT reelected and another nail in the dem party. She thought she and her puppets would do this to him and he would play like past repubs and still shake her hand? Those days are over. Their setups won't work with this Prez and the white hat repubs that are standing up now.
 
President Trump acted like a recalcitrant child by not shaking hands and Speaker Pelosi also acted like a recalcitrant child with her actions of not using the traditional welcome to the President and then ripping the SOTU address apart. Partisan politics at its finest. I’m so sick of the way our lawmakers act. I’m a registered Democrat, but I’m disgusted by all of it. Bill Weld 2020. --- it.
 
Maybe Trump did intentionally snub Pelosi on the handshake, I would however like to point out that he also did not shake the hand of VP Pence. He turned, gave them their copies of the speech and then turned back around, was it a snub, a blunder, focus on getting right to the SOTU address or an attempt to have as little contact with her as possible? Either way, her actions are as distasteful and disrespectful as you will ever see, it just goes to show you how their hatred for one man constantly clouds their judgement. There were names of lost Americans in that speech, names of great Americans who are still with us, a Tuskegee airman, children and their parents, a serving member of our military, survivors, fighters, those who embody the American dream, but her hatred is so vile that she displayed total lack of respect for any of them. And in doing so lost any ounce of respect she may have had left.
 
tramadoc said:
President Trump acted like a recalcitrant child by not shaking hands and Speaker Pelosi also acted like a recalcitrant child with her actions of not using the traditional welcome to the President and then ripping the SOTU address apart. Partisan politics at its finest. I’m so sick of the way our lawmakers act. I’m a registered Democrat, but I’m disgusted by all of it. Bill Weld 2020. --- it.
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I feel ya and I am right there with you, though I doubt I vote for Bill Weld....the quality of leadership is pathetic and its really a disgrace, I am pretty sure the founders would be super pissed off to see what we have done....I just cant believe we live in a country where Trump and Hillary were the best two choices, or where Trump vs ( insert useless Dem here ) is going to be our option in 2020.....
 
So here's a question, I haven't watched a State of the Union address until the past 2 years. Do former presidents like Obama, Bush, etc also have personal stories and people he talks about in the audience like Trump did or is that something specific that Trump does? I thought it was really heartwarming for him to honor the wife and 2 kids like he did and then have her husband back from deployment there to surprise them. I also enjoyed how he honored the Tuskegee airman and the little girl with the scholarship.
 
Highly partisan. So, I didn’t like it even though his delivery was smooth. Not a state of the union but state of the Red Nation. All Trump cares about is his base and being a nasty and divisive bully. I thought and still think Obama was really bad with regard to divisiveness (I never even considered voting for him), but I find Trump to be as bad, if not worse despite my agreeing with most of his policies and not agreeing with much of Obama’s policies. Trump thrives on being divisive because he’s such a jackass. He loves pissing off the other side as if they’re an enemy of the US. Strongly disagreeing with the other side is in itself normal for a politician/ok with me and giving reasons for that is fine, too, but his absolute hatred for the other side is uncalled for in someone who is supposed to be a leader of the country. He has no class.
 
metwannabe said:
Maybe Trump did intentionally snub Pelosi on the handshake, I would however like to point out that he also did not shake the hand of VP Pence. He turned, gave them their copies of the speech and then turned back around, was it a snub, a blunder, focus on getting right to the SOTU address or an attempt to have as little contact with her as possible? Either way, her actions are as distasteful and disrespectful as you will ever see, it just goes to show you how their hatred for one man constantly clouds their judgement. There were names of lost Americans in that speech, names of great Americans who are still with us, a Tuskegee airman, children and their parents, a serving member of our military, survivors, fighters, those who embody the American dream, but her hatred is so vile that she displayed total lack of respect for any of them. And in doing so lost any ounce of respect she may have had left.
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I think the worst thing about it was when she was asked afterwards about why she did it, she said it was better than the alternative and that she did it because she couldn't find a single bit of truth in the speech. By saying that she was saying the Tuskegee airman, the serving military family, survivors, etc. were all "lies" too which is disgraceful no matter one's political position to dishonor those people, those Americans, in that way.
 
snowlover91 said:
So here's a question, I haven't watched a State of the Union address until the past 2 years. Do former presidents like Obama, Bush, etc also have personal stories and people he talks about in the audience like Trump did or is that something specific that Trump does? I thought it was really heartwarming for him to honor the wife and 2 kids like he did and then have her husband back from deployment there to surprise them. I also enjoyed how he honored the Tuskegee airman and the little girl with the scholarship.
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Photo ops. Trump is a master of this.
 
GaWx said:
Highly partisan. So, I didn’t like it even though his delivery was smooth. Not a state of the union but state of the Red Nation. All Trump cares about is his base and being a nasty and divisive bully. I thought and still think Obama was really bad with regard to divisiveness (I never even considered voting for him), but I find Trump to be as bad, if not worse despite my agreeing with most of his policies and not agreeing with much of Obama’s policies. Trump thrives on being divisive because he’s such a jackass. He loves pissing off the other side as if they’re an enemy of the US. Strongly disagreeing with the other side is in itself normal for a politician/ok with me and giving reasons for that is fine, too, but his absolute hatred for the other side is uncalled for in someone who is supposed to be a leader of the country. He has no class.
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So what did Trump do last night that was so divisive? Other than not shaking Pelosi's hand he honored multiple Americans in different ways, not just "white people." His State of the Union address focused on various people who have endured and represent what we as Americans hold dear in surviving, persevering, and the American Dream of wanting the best for our children and working hard to achieve those dreams. He talked about the economy and how it has benefited various minority groups and people in general...
 
snowlover91 said:
So what did Trump do last night that was so divisive? Other than not shaking Pelosi's hand he honored multiple Americans in different ways, not just "white people." His State of the Union address focused on various people who have endured and represent what we as Americans hold dear in surviving, persevering, and the American Dream of wanting the best for our children and working hard to achieve those dreams. He talked about the economy and how it has benefited various minority groups and people in general...
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He purposefully did that with mainly black and Hispanic people for photo ops and to trap the other side by essentially saying “see, I love black and Hispanic people, too, so don’t criticize me.” All a TV show.
 
Glad to see they escorted the father of a mass shooting out of the room for his outburst. No place for that at the sotu. I wonder why they didn't do that to the Republican congressman that yelled you lie at Obama?
 
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