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Andrew Johnson was charged with articles of impeachment; as was Bill Clinton; neither was "convicted" ... much as a person charged by the State Attorney who is later found "not guilty" by the jury ... the charge cannot be undone, but neither can the "acquittal"... Would anyone want it otherwise ... that is - the charge sticks for life but the decision does not?
..and does the same "badge" apply to Clinton as some seem to want to stick to Trump?
These are not comments on anything other than basic American justice, which I have given my life to, and do not wish to see polluted by politics from either side ...
 
pcbjr said:
Andrew Johnson was charged with articles of impeachment; as was Bill Clinton; neither was "convicted" ... much as a person charged by the State Attorney who is later found "not guilty" by the jury ... the charge cannot be undone, but neither can the "acquittal"... Would anyone want it otherwise ... that is - the charge sticks for life but the decision does not?
..and does the same "badge" apply to Clinton as some seem to want to stick to Trump?
These are not comments on anything other than basic American justice, which I have given my life to, and do not wish to see polluted by politics from either side ...
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What we have here is a system where senators are the jury and judge. In this case many as jurors have said the house proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt but that as judges they just aren't going to do anything about it.
 
Shaggy said:
What we have here is a system where senators are the jury and judge. In this case many as jurors have said the house proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt but that as judges they just aren't going to do anything about it.
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Then go vote out the jurors and judges ... if that is your wish ... such is the system and the opportunity you were given ... if not suitable then, 1) work to change the Constitution (also a very valuable right you have), or 2) move to someplace that has a jurisprudential/political system you like ...
 
pcbjr said:
Then go vote out the jurors and judges ... if that is your wish ... such is the system and the opportunity you were given ... if not suitable then, 1) work to change the Constitution (also a very valuable right you have), or 2) move to someplace that has a jurisprudential/political system you like ...
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This x 1,000.....
 
pcbjr said:
Andrew Johnson was charged with articles of impeachment; as was Bill Clinton; neither was "convicted" ... much as a person charged by the State Attorney who is later found "not guilty" by the jury ... the charge cannot be undone, but neither can the "acquittal"... Would anyone want it otherwise ... that is - the charge sticks for life but the decision does not?
..and does the same "badge" apply to Clinton as some seem to want to stick to Trump?
These are not comments on anything other than basic American justice, which I have given my life to, and do not wish to see polluted by politics from either side ...
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History will show that Donald J. Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives, just like William Jefferson Clinton and Andrew Johnson. All three will be noted as such. Richard M. Nixon would be on the list as well if he did not resign from office as he did.

Edit: Regardless of my feelings on the matter, it went as was outlined in the United States Constitution. All I asked was that the rules were followed. It seems as if they were. I have nothing else to say on the matter. Donald J. Trump is still our duly elected President. I took an oath to defend this country and to obey my Commander in Chief when I enlisted. I took that oath very seriously. I still believe it is my duty to honor that oath even though I no longer serve. I may not like the man in office, but I respect the office and the title it bestows. No politics will make me change that.
 
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tramadoc said:
History will show that Donald J. Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives, just like William Jefferson Clinton and Andrew Johnson. All three will be noted as such. Richard M. Nixon would be on the list as well if he did not resign from office as he did.

Edit: Regardless of my feelings on the matter, it went as was outlined in the United States Constitution. All I asked was that the rules were followed. It seems as if they were. I have nothing else to say on the matter. Donald J. Trump is still our duly elected President. I took an oath to defend this country and to obey my Commander in Chief when I enlisted. I took that oath very seriously. I still believe it is my duty to honor that oath even though I no longer serve. I may not like the man in office, but I respect the office and the title it bestows. No politics will make me change that.
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The oath is for life. I didn't like Obama but would have taken a bullet for the CIC. For god, country and family....Hooyah!
 
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Nancy Pelosi would tick me off with her utter disrespect if it wasnt for her clueless looking facial expressions bringing me to tears with laughter.
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I’m no Pelosi fan as she’s had her moments and she, indeed, is making funny gestures. But why would you expect her to respect him after he just embarrassed her by refusing to shake her hand? She’s pissed off.
Ronald Reagan would have never done anything like that. Trump is such a jackass.
 
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GaWx said:
I’m no Pelosi fan as she’s had her moments and she, indeed, is making funny gestures. But why would you expect her to respect him after he just embarrassed her by refusing to shake her hand? She’s pissed off.
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Why would he shake her hand, she's only vowed to impeach and remove him from office from day one.
 
GaWx said:
Please provide evidence that Pelosi vowed to impeach Trump from day one:

www.politifact.com

No evidence Pelosi, Schiff promised a Trump impeachment

In a Facebook ad that started running Nov. 14, the day after the first public hearing of the impeachment inquiry, Presid
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com
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Haha ok just her House members, not all, but many started immediately. If you want to believe she didn't want him out that's fine, she guaranteed he wouldn't be president, in her words "take it to the bank". She wants him removed tomorrow, I wouldn't shake her hand either.
 
GaWx said:
I’m no Pelosi fan as she’s had her moments and she, indeed, is making funny gestures. But why would you expect her to respect him after he just embarrassed her by refusing to shake her hand? She’s pissed off.
Ronald Reagan would have never done anything like that. Trump is such a jackass.
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Ripping up his speech and breaking decorum with her expressions weren’t appropriate either. Trump should have shook her hand but she shouldn’t have responded the way she did when he didn’t.
 
The "tolerant" left.....On full display at all times. Their facial expressions look like melted cheese from a Dali painting
 
EV_WS said:
Nancy just ripped up the physical speech, on air, after the SOTU in her petulant childlike way! Incredibly DUMB!
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you have to be pretty vile to barely stand and applaud the serviceman returning to his wife. And all the others that were honored. Party allegiance aside.

I’ve seen more mature and respectful 3-4year olds in the kids choir at church.
 
Pelosi asked why she ripped up the speech, “It was the courteous thing to do, considering the alternatives.”

Even the CBS News people were shocked on the live stream when it happened.
 
SOTU: Game Set Match: Checkmate!
The Contrast is never been plainer to see. I am 100% behind the candidate who has delivered and still forward thinking on Making America Greater than ever before. Captilisim,Democracy and Constitution has never looked stronger compared to the Socialist, leftist ,progressive alternative. We werent just told how great our country is, we where showed with pure facts. KMAG!
 
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