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snowlover91 said:
My point is that it seems people are focusing only on Trump, as if he’s the most corrupt person ever, but they’re not holding the Democrats to the exact same standards they’re holding Trump too. There are a ton of things the democrats need to be held accountable for that no one seems to really care about, everyone wants to focus on Trump and ignore the other stuff because they hate him.
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Trump is president first and foremost. What he does is and should be under the biggest microscope.

There were also proper channels for trump to use that he didnt and that's why he got his tail caught in a crack.
 
Shaggy said:
I've known snowlover91 since before he even had his learners permit. He knows me and he knows I hated Obama too. For him to insinuate otherwise is disheartening to say the least.
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I wasn’t around on political boards back in the day when Obama was in office, I was only interested in weather back then and had 0 interest in politics. My post came across the wrong way and I apologize for that. My issue is when people focus all their efforts on only the bad things Trump does but ignore calling out the equally bad things the liberals do. If we are going to hold him to a high standard we should hold all leaders to that same standard. There are a lot of scary things the liberals are doing that concern me for the direction our country is going, like the 2nd amendment issue in VA, FISA abuse, starting an impeachment campaign before someone takes office, etc.
 
Shaggy said:
Trump is president first and foremost. What he does is and should be under the biggest microscope.

There were also proper channels for trump to use that he didnt and that's why he got his tail caught in a crack.
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Yes, but I haven’t seen the people who don’t like Trump ever give him props for anything that is beneficial for Americans or a good policy choice he makes. I also don’t see those who don’t like Trump calling out the stuff the democrats are doing either. Maybe I just miss them but it sure seems like that is the only thing people focus on.
 
snowlover91 said:
I wasn’t around on political boards back in the day when Obama was in office, I was only interested in weather back then and had 0 interest in politics. My post came across the wrong way and I apologize for that. My issue is when people focus all their efforts on only the bad things Trump does but ignore calling out the equally bad things the liberals do. If we are going to hold him to a high standard we should hold all leaders to that same standard. There are a lot of scary things the liberals are doing that concern me for the direction our country is going, like the 2nd amendment issue in VA, FISA abuse, starting an impeachment campaign before someone takes office, etc.
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Hold them all to the same standard. I did under obama and I do now as well. Its what's so frustrating to me because I know if this was a Democrat accused of all these things opinions here would be flipped flopped.
 
Shaggy said:
Hold them all to the same standard. I did under obama and I do now as well. Its what's so frustrating to me because I know if this was a Democrat accused of all these things opinions here would be flipped flopped.
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My issue with the impeachment deal is how it was literally started from the day of his inauguration (and one could argue it started and was planned before it). I don’t care if it was Obama or Trump or anyone else in office, I would be ticked at the party weaponizing impeachment that way. What is happening is they’re taking impeachment and using it to search for a crime or manufacture something they can justify as one. The danger in this is that out of our first 36 presidents we had 1 impeachment. Out of the last 9 we have had 3. It’s starting to become more of a normal thing and that is very concerning, especially when you have a party that says they’re starting an impeachment campaign to overthrow the duly elected president before he even is in office. Whether one views the accusations over the past 3 years with Russia and Ukraine legit or not, no president should ever face a weaponized impeachment process that starts before he even takes office. Maybe it happened under Obama with the GOP, I didn’t follow politics then so idk but this is the first time I’ve seen it happen.

If we are going to hold them all to the same standard then it would be nice to see some discussion on other politicians, whether positive or critical, as well.
 
Heres some of my old posts. Notice date stamps. Notice in one I even suggest to hold Bush responsible for fast and furious at one point.......this was before the time line came out. My position is and always has been to hold our elected officials accountable.....Bush, Obama, or Trump. My position has remained the same regardless of party.
 

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Shaggy said:
Heres some of my old posts. Notice date stamps. Notice in one I even suggest to hold Bush responsible for fast and furious at one point.......this was before the time line came out. My position is and always has been to hold our elected officials accountable.....Bush, Obama, or Trump. My position has remained the same regardless of party.
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We need some humor in this thread! Whether you do or don’t like Trump, this video is hilarious and the guy nails his personality.
 
Shaggy said:
Heres some of my old posts. Notice date stamps. Notice in one I even suggest to hold Bush responsible for fast and furious at one point.......this was before the time line came out. My position is and always has been to hold our elected officials accountable.....Bush, Obama, or Trump. My position has remained the same regardless of party.
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These must be fake I have it on good authority that if you dont like Trump you must be a socialist loving, pinko commie liberal.....
 
Shaggy said:
I've known snowlover91 since before he even had his learners permit. He knows me and he knows I hated Obama too. For him to insinuate otherwise is disheartening to say the least.
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Yes, I remember those days on Jeff's weather site. We used to chat about weather, pig hunting and fishing. I know deep down where you stand on these issues.
 
Its ok to hold people accountable for their actions just stop telling other people they suck for not wanting to impeach the President. You dont like him? DONT VOTE FOR HIM PEOPLE! This isnt long division. You live in a free country. You get to vote in November in a free election! Thats how you get to hold him accountable. Isnt that amazing? Whats even cooler than that is 4 more years after this year you get to do it all over again with an entire new group of people tugging at your emotions.
 
Sandbar said:
Its ok to hold people accountable for their actions just stop telling other people they suck for not wanting to impeach the President. You dont like him? DONT VOTE FOR HIM PEOPLE! This isnt long division. You live in a free country. You get to vote in November in a free election! Thats how you get to hold him accountable. Isnt that amazing? Whats even cooler than that is 4 more years after this year you get to do it all over again with an entire new group of people tugging at your emotions.
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Hey that's a great philosophy. Instead if incessantly whining(not meaning you directly) about the bidens corruption stop whining and just dont vote for him. I mean that's holding him accountable correct?
 
Shaggy said:
Hey that's a great philosophy. Instead if incessantly whining(not meaning you directly) about the bidens corruption stop whining and just dont vote for him. I mean that's holding him accountable correct?
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Now you are getting it! Joe Biden is corrupt as hell so im gonna hold him accountable by never voting for him!
 


This is fcking hilarious. Corporate dems have always seemed to be so sure of themselves and so naive of their surroundings. Arrogance is truly a blinding trait. It's also very insane to watch now, knowing how popular trump currently is.

That being said, I will err on the side of caution to those who think sanders is not similar to trump in some ways. Both with a very strong following, both very polarizing, both seemed at one point to be unelectable. The socialist attack at the surface is just that to many voters. People seem to be tired of ridiculous health care costs, education debt, and the favoring of the system towards the 1%. Inequality gap is highest it's ever been and people want a fair shot. You truly don't know what God has in store. Heed with caution for the future because it may surprise us. I could be wrong ofc, but just sayin.
 
I'm really starting to believe the Corona virus is showing the world what China really is, a third world country with a big money government that does a lot of talk and smoke and mirrors. The sample size is still small, but so far people in countries with good health and healthcare are shrugging off the virus and those in the US are returning home due to mild symptoms. It really shows what the Chinese people have to deal with and how they need our prayers.
 
so uh any thoughts about the Democrats Iowa Caucuses app crashing... its after midnight and still no results "inconsistences" found...
 
Brent said:
so uh any thoughts about the Democrats Iowa Caucuses app crashing... its after midnight and still no results "inconsistences" found...
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The Democrat party is a train wreck. They can't do even a simple task at a caucus. Do people actually think these clowns can beat Donald Trump and run the Unites States of America? It's mind boggling
 
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