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Shaggy said:
This is a horrible precedent. Senators are outright saying he did all of these things but just not willing to remove him. We no longer have a functioning impeachment process.

Thanks GOP.
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And thats what moves you? A functioning impeachment process? If im not mistaken he was impeached correct? Its a good thing the majority of those senators have a much better BS meter than you do....
 
Shaggy said:
The 2 scenarios are completely different. Clinton lied about an affair. Trump used his office to withhold aid ILLEGALLY from an ally for his own personal gain.
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Our ally got the money. Kind of puzzling that Ukraine had no issues but our own Trump hating guild is on the verge of a meltdown
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What i find then funniest is all the GOP supporters hear whining about the bidens. According to the new code it doesn't matter one bit what biden did. As long as his motive co-existed with what he believed was the national interest he can do whatever he wanted and it's not a big deal.
 
Shaggy said:
What i find then funniest is all the GOP supporters hear whining about the bidens. According to the new code it doesn't matter one bit what biden did. As long as his motive co-existed with what he believed was the national interest he can do whatever he wanted and it's not a big deal.
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Damn I can't imagine how incensed you were during the Obama years. How about the Bush years? Clinton years? Did you like Reagan because the wanted to impeach him for abuse of power too
 
Shaggy said:
What i find then funniest is all the GOP supporters hear whining about the bidens. According to the new code it doesn't matter one bit what biden did. As long as his motive co-existed with what he believed was the national interest he can do whatever he wanted and it's not a big deal.
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No what I find funny is all the democrats thinking they can do what the hell they want to do against the constitution.. 16 democrat witnesses was allowed in the house and schiff did not allow republicans to counter it was one sided and you got to be a ? to think that’s ok?? It’s not the senate job to clean up the mistakes they spilled over In the house!! Democrats had their chance but just like Obamacare that tried to hurry and jam the impeachment through just like Russia collusion bull? it came back and smacked them in the mouth. Democrats have done nothing since they took over the house except trying to take out Trump!! That’s why more democrats are going over to trump because they know democrats are doing nothing for them since taking over the house except being angry that trump won in 2016 and that’s what this is all about end of story!!
 
Fisherman said:
No what I find funny is all the democrats thinking they can do what the hell they want to do against the constitution.. 16 democrat witnesses was allowed in the house and schiff did not allow republicans to counter it was one sided and you got to be a ? to think that’s ok?? It’s not the senate job to clean up the mistakes they spilled over In the house!! Democrats had their chance but just like Obamacare that tried to hurry and jam the impeachment through just like Russia collusion bull? it came back and smacked them in the mouth. Democrats have done nothing since they took over the house except trying to take out Trump!! That’s why more democrats are going over to trump because they know democrats are doing nothing for them since taking over the house except being angry that trump won in 2016 and that’s what this is all about end of story!!
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Yet it's odd that even with a rushed slack job they still convinced Alexander, Rubio and who knows who else he is guilty. Just imagine what could have been if they did a good job finishing witnesses.

Trumps is a corrupt swamp king. For the first time in my life I just might vote for a democrat.
 
Shaggy said:
Yet it's odd that even with a rushed slack job they still convinced Alexander, Rubio and who knows who else he is guilty. Just imagine what could have been if they did a good job finishing witnesses.

Trumps is a corrupt swamp king. For the first time in my life I just might vote for a democrat.
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Go for it, if you’re not voting for Trump you might as well go for the opposition!
 
Shaggy said:
Yet it's odd that even with a rushed slack job they still convinced Alexander, Rubio and who knows who else he is guilty. Just imagine what could have been if they did a good job finishing witnesses.

Trumps is a corrupt swamp king. For the first time in my life I just might vote for a democrat.
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Go ahead...They're going to really need your vote!!
 
snowlover91 said:
He wasn’t, he only is mad because it’s Trump. It’s okay if anyone not named Trump does these things, but orange man bad.
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You know that's not true as I railed against Obama for years. I just always hoped the GOP was better than obamabots and that admin. My hope was not reality. They are the same.

Once again "conservatism is what I believe not who I follow"
 
snowlover91 said:
He wasn’t, he only is mad because it’s Trump. It’s okay if anyone not named Trump does these things, but orange man bad.
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Smh is this really what it's come to? The stupidest excuses that keep surfacing about this whole "hate Trump train" is "You don't like Trump and you never have because you're against America". It's a broken record. Say some of our lives don't revolve around Trump? Seems to be the opposite for some. I'll keep living my life regardless of who's president or in power. I don't wake up thinking about who's in office or what they're doing. However, I will hold those in power accountable for their actions, small or large. I have the right to criticize those in power. Everyone does. Instead of idolizing Trump like he's some sort of god, how about we instead look at him as a president who let corruption take full control of him and try to pin it on his enemies so they are the enemy of the people. Pretty harsh to say half your country is sleezy. Just as bad as Hillary's deplorables comment. Currently both sides are in such a mess that it's disgusting. The right is on the trump train who wants to do nothing but kiss Trump's golden shoes and the left has a few maniacs in the spotlight preaching socialism. I would love both parties to take out the trash and moderate but like that's ever going to happen.
 
Shaggy said:
Yet it's odd that even with a rushed slack job they still convinced Alexander, Rubio and who knows who else he is guilty. Just imagine what could have been if they did a good job finishing witnesses.

Trumps is a corrupt swamp king. For the first time in my life I just might vote for a democrat.
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Did you watch Dershowitz ( you do know he is the one who represented Clinton in his impeachment trial ) as you know he is a constitutional scholar along with Ted Cruz and Dershowitz even said that trump was denied due process and that’s unconstitutional because as Dershowitz said Clinton was given due process during his impeachment hearings..And for schiff to stand there and twist what Dershowitz said is sickening and a liar..you got to be a total moron to vote for socialism because Biden will be a non factor and the fact AOC has taken over the democrat party!! The Economy will plummet into the toilet if democrats win!!
 
ForsythSnow said:
Smh is this really what it's come to? The stupidest excuses that keep surfacing about this whole "hate Trump train" is "You don't like Trump and you never have because you're against America". It's a broken record. Say some of our lives don't revolve around Trump? Seems to be the opposite for some. I'll keep living my life regardless of who's president or in power. I don't wake up thinking about who's in office or what they're doing. However, I will hold those in power accountable for their actions, small or large. I have the right to criticize those in power. Everyone does. Instead of idolizing Trump like he's some sort of god, how about we instead look at him as a president who let corruption take full control of him and try to pin it on his enemies so they are the enemy of the people. Pretty harsh to say half your country is sleezy. Just as bad as Hillary's deplorables comment. Currently both sides are in such a mess that it's disgusting. The right is on the trump train who wants to do nothing but kiss Trump's golden shoes and the left has a few maniacs in the spotlight preaching socialism. I would love both parties to take out the trash and moderate but like that's ever going to happen.
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I've known snowlover91 since before he even had his learners permit. He knows me and he knows I hated Obama too. For him to insinuate otherwise is disheartening to say the least.
 
Seems to me a number of years back, there was a certain American embassy that requested additional security resources from our leaders. That security assistance was denied, withheld, and it cost American lives. Then the POTUS and sec. of state lied about about those circumstances with total disregard for the American lives lost. But we're suppose to be upset over a request to investigate corruption involving the Bidens, Clinton's and the DNC....ok.
 
Shaggy said:
You know that's not true as I railed against Obama for years. I just always hoped the GOP was better than obamabots and that admin. My hope was not reality. They are the same.

Once again "conservatism is what I believe not who I follow"
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They haven’t been different in a long time, just playing their base. The GOP made Trump. When you run Mccain and Romney two election cycles, you get what you deserve.
 
Shaggy said:
This is a horrible precedent. Senators are outright saying he did all of these things but just not willing to remove him. We no longer have a functioning impeachment process.

Thanks GOP.
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What are you talking about? You will have members from both parties vote for acquittal Wednesday. Just like you had members from both parties vote against impeachment in the house unsuccessfully. Thanks to the Republicans in the senate they perserved impeachment and didnt allow it to be turned into a partisan tool, just because some dont agree or like a presidents policies, character , election results etc.
Trump never committed an impeachable crime. You want to get rid of him go run for president or support someone whos runing against him. Dont conduct a scam charade in the house in the name of a partisan trial, where a defendent cant represent himself and ram stuff through in a haste.
It was the Democrat House who oppressed an accussed defendant and suppressed evidence from being vetted as well as verefied.
You got JV politician moon bats who only serve their own self interest and not the constitution or citizens of this country.
Democrats always want to change rules to fit their narrative. If its not electoral college, its the senate having to build the impeachment case by witness,depositions etc. List goes on and on.
Are you that scared or have that much lack of faith in your idealogy, socialist vision for America? Spend your energy selling , promoting it. Trying to say someone is guilty until he can prove he is innocent aint gonna get it done. By all means please keep it up. Meanwhile Trump is out their knocking deals and legislation out of the park. Creating a larger hurdle for Democrats to overcome.
Its all about MAGA Capitalism verse Socialism this fall. Yall just keep making it easier for him to rally us walmart deplorables. The ole dumb working class red blooded Americans who are only about God,Family,Country. Democrats think my kind shouldnt have a say, voice. My way of living, thinking isnt what America should be about anymore. The problem is, they are way more like me outside of DC and a few big metro areas than they realize.
 
ForsythSnow said:
Smh is this really what it's come to? The stupidest excuses that keep surfacing about this whole "hate Trump train" is "You don't like Trump and you never have because you're against America". It's a broken record. Say some of our lives don't revolve around Trump? Seems to be the opposite for some. I'll keep living my life regardless of who's president or in power. I don't wake up thinking about who's in office or what they're doing. However, I will hold those in power accountable for their actions, small or large. I have the right to criticize those in power. Everyone does. Instead of idolizing Trump like he's some sort of god, how about we instead look at him as a president who let corruption take full control of him and try to pin it on his enemies so they are the enemy of the people. Pretty harsh to say half your country is sleezy. Just as bad as Hillary's deplorables comment. Currently both sides are in such a mess that it's disgusting. The right is on the trump train who wants to do nothing but kiss Trump's golden shoes and the left has a few maniacs in the spotlight preaching socialism. I would love both parties to take out the trash and moderate but like that's ever going to happen.
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My point is that it seems people are focusing only on Trump, as if he’s the most corrupt person ever, but they’re not holding the Democrats to the exact same standards they’re holding Trump too. There are a ton of things the democrats need to be held accountable for that no one seems to really care about, everyone wants to focus on Trump and ignore the other stuff because they hate him.
 
It's normal for any God loving American to not like and appreciate any of the accomplishments Trump as made since being in office....All the while battling the Democrats every step of the way.....Really it is
 
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