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Now the scale tips the other way. Why we can’t stay shut down past April
 
Ok, so you’re cool with it. Got it.

No. I just don't care about those things in relation to the things I see going on in the government by the political elite. The whole bipartisan world seem pretty cool with all the things you mentioned, and they have been since the Clinton era. They just don't talk about it, and the media has definitely chosen to ignore it. I just don't understand how you're cool with the current and past Democratic Presidential candidates touching kids, groping underage girls, having sex with slaves, as well as sexually assaulting and raping women. They do it on camera, and you seem pretty cool with it. All the things you mentioned I get, but rape and molestation? Something is wrong with left-wing thinking in this country. Even Alyssa Milano is pretty cool with the idea of supporting her sexually violent attacker.
 
Yes.....There are so many appointments in an administration. Was this a position the President would be personally tied to? Im sure he knows his name but know him? Its not surprising that Trump said he doesnt know him. Its also a quick way to move on from another question that is less important than lives and the coronavirus. The entire thing was a cluster

It's all conjecture. I've met a neighbor that lives three houses down from me, but I don't know his name. I could describe him to you? I'm not sure if he's Hispanic, White or some kinda mix? But you'll have the mainstream media pretend like a brief meet and greet is some kind of close relationship.

Another trick the media has fraudulently and unprofessionally implemented on a weekly basis is the use of one or two unnamed sources that are "familiar with a situation" that the President denies or doesn't remember. These people come out of the wood work when the media starts looking stupid. These sources always provide information that is less than credible, without providing any details to demonstrate factual knowledge. They also never provide anything to demonstrate their credentials. In law, we call this hearsay within hearsay, and it's inadmissible in court. In fact, any allegation is considered insufficient on its face. Not credible. In fact, if a lawyer tried to bring this in a Judge would chastise that person for lack of candor or dishonesty to the court.
 
No. I just don't care about those things in relation to the things I see going on in the government by the political elite. The whole bipartisan world seem pretty cool with all the things you mentioned, and they have been since the Clinton era. They just don't talk about it, and the media has definitely chosen to ignore it. I just don't understand how you're cool with the current and past Democratic Presidential candidates touching kids, groping underage girls, having sex with slaves, as well as sexually assaulting and raping women. They do it on camera, and you seem pretty cool with it. All the things you mentioned I get, but rape and molestation? Something is wrong with left-wing thinking in this country. Even Alyssa Milano is pretty cool with the idea of supporting her sexually violent attacker.

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trump has sexually assaulted tens to hundreds of women. He also walked in on the teen miss America dressing room. He’s a sicko and our current president. Biden is harmless and there are no reputable accusations of him doing anything improper.
 
But Clinton...... that was 20 years ago and I didn’t support him regardless if he did anything improper. Team right wing is obsessed with the clintons. It’s a true derangement syndrome.
 
But Clinton...... that was 20 years ago and I didn’t support him regardless if he did anything improper. Team right wing is obsessed with the clintons. It’s a true derangement syndrome.

Hillary Clinton was running four years ago, and her husband has been accused of underage sex with slave within the last couple of years. I'm also talking about Biden's sexual assaults. But let's talk about Trump how Trump cheats on his wife cause that's relevant.

Yeah Trump derangement is real. A symptom seems to be total obliviousness to irony.
 
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trump has sexually assaulted tens to hundreds of women. He also walked in on the teen miss America dressing room. He’s a sicko and our current president. Biden is harmless and there are no reputable accusations of him doing anything improper.

Yeah. The media tried putting one of those women on television, and she said it was consensual. When she wasn't promoting her book, she was advocating that women want, and enjoy, rape. Also, I didn't actually see Trump do it. I saw Biden do it. I've seen him with my own eyes grope and massage young girls. I heard him confess putting young children on his lap, and loving them rub his leg.
 
Hillary Clinton was running four years ago, and her husband has been accused of underage sex with slave within the last couple of years. I'm also talking about Biden's sexual assaults. But let's talk about Trump how Trump cheats on his wife cause that's relevant.

Yeah Trump derangement is real. A symptom seems to be total obliviousness to irony.
Honestly, both are crap in their own ways and frauds. I'm truly disappointed that our nation has these two clowns as our only viable options. At least we didn't end up with Bernie coming close to the nominee.
 
Honestly, both are crap in their own ways and frauds. I'm truly disappointed that our nation has these two clowns as our only viable options. At least we didn't end up with Bernie coming close to the nominee.
Have said this many times. If you want personality in your candidate Trump is more than likely going to disappoint you in more ways than one. I didnt hire him to ride on a float in the rose bowl parade and be a spokesman for clean living. He is a builder, a problem solver and a cut throat businessman. Its what this country needs, not another BS artist......well see in a few months which one America wants. A builder or a career BS shoveling puppet....agree 100% about dodging Bernie
 
Honestly, both are crap in their own ways and frauds. I'm truly disappointed that our nation has these two clowns as our only viable options. At least we didn't end up with Bernie coming close to the nominee.

I'm kind of impartial to a laboratory-made candidate with both Bernie and Trump's best qualities. I like that both of them cut through the BS to solve problems in their own way. Trump just has so many qualities of a good leader and a lot of economic and social values that makes some of Bernie Sander's better socialist policies workable in a capitalist system. I think we see some of that with the President attempting the pseudo-medicare-for-all policy for all people in America suffering from coronavirus, Bernie's policy of lower cost on services, and the endeavor by both to lower the cost of prescriptions drugs. I think both of them actually care for Americans, whether or not it's due to Trump wanting to remembered as a great president or Bernie for trying to install Soviet rule for the benefit of the working class. I actually think Trump feels a connection with the working class by interacting with blue collar contractors and subcontractors, because I also had that connection and sense of comraderie with my workers when I worked as a construction manager.

In contrast, I honestly don't think Biden cares at all about people. From lying about the Iraq War, abuses of power, public displays of sexual impropriety and contact with young women and underage girls, support for the legislation and improper implementation of Criminal Justice Act, etc., etc., etc., I just think he lives in a political, elite bubble in which he feels like he should be able to take advantage of a situation. He's been a politician all his life, and has always had a corrupt relationship with corporations from Americare, the chines oil company, Ukraine, military contractors, and financial/credit industry. He is the very reason Judges and politicians started getting kickbacks from prisons after the criminal Justice Act was enacted. He knows what he is doing is wrong. On the other hand, I honestly don't think Trump knows some of the things he does are wrong cause he's not from that world. He doesn't know what is appropo, and has sometimes said he will do something that isn't proper only to come back and say, "Apparently they told me that's against the law, and I like to follow the law." While not savvy, I respect that level of openness. His ego is the real problem.
 
I'm kind of impartial to a laboratory-made candidate with both Bernie and Trump's best qualities. I like that both of them cut through the BS to solve problems in their own way. Trump just has so many qualities of a good leader and a lot of economic and social values that makes some of Bernie Sander's better socialist policies workable in a capitalist system. I think we see some of that with the President attempting the pseudo-medicare-for-all policy for all people in America suffering from coronavirus, Bernie's policy of lower cost on services, and the endeavor by both to lower the cost of prescriptions drugs. I think both of them actually care for Americans, whether or not it's due to Trump wanting to remembered as a great president or Bernie for trying to install Soviet rule for the benefit of the working class. I actually think Trump feels a connection with the working class by interacting with blue collar contractors and subcontractors, because I also had that connection and sense of comraderie with my workers when I worked as a construction manager.

In contrast, I honestly don't think Biden cares at all about people. From lying about the Iraq War, abuses of power, public displays of sexual impropriety and contact with young women and underage girls, support for the legislation and improper implementation of Criminal Justice Act, etc., etc., etc., I just think he lives in a political, elite bubble in which he feels like he should be able to take advantage of a situation. He's been a politician all his life, and has always had a corrupt relationship with corporations from Americare, the chines oil company, Ukraine, military contractors, and financial/credit industry. He is the very reason Judges and politicians started getting kickbacks from prisons after the criminal Justice Act was enacted. He knows what he is doing is wrong. On the other hand, I honestly don't think Trump knows some of the things he does are wrong cause he's not from that world. He doesn't know what is appropo, and has sometimes said he will do something that isn't proper only to come back and say, "Apparently they told me that's against the law, and I like to follow the law." While not savvy, I respect that level of openness. His ego is the real problem.
I wouldn't call Trump a "good leader" because he's got a lot of leadership skills he lacks. I would say he's an effective one but that comes from him being a businessman. A good leader knows how to talk to their people. Trump does not know how to talk to everyone and unify almost all of them. A good leader would not have a nation of people that rip each other apart for their opinions on something. A good leader is also selfless, not selfish. Trump isn't fully to either side of this. If Trump was a good leader, or any political figure was a good leader, they'd sacrifice a second term to get what is right for the people done.
 
Have said this many times. If you want personality in your candidate Trump is more than likely going to disappoint you in more ways than one. I didnt hire him to ride on a float in the rose bowl parade and be a spokesman for clean living. He is a builder, a problem solver and a cut throat businessman. Its what this country needs, not another BS artist......well see in a few months which one America wants. A builder or a career BS shoveling puppet....agree 100% about dodging Bernie

Yep. After watching the last 25 years of politics I honestly don't want anymore life-long politicians as President. If you want to write or decide law, you should stay in the Legislative or Judicial branch. I just don't want anymore of this constant bipartisan footsying around. These people are too comfortable with each other and political or corporate allies in the media, and all of them benefit from the corruption that naturally occurs when nobody wants holds anyone else truly accountable cause everyone is on the conspiracy/collusion. Nothing really gets done when everyone, their families and business partners, have a financial stake in the ineptitude of legislation.

So I hired him for the job mostly due to the fact that he didn't embody the political classes that you see on the Republican side with the Bush family and the Democrat side with Pelosi and the Clintons. He upset the balance of power. He could literally get the Republican Party to support medicare-for-all and all kinds of liberal wet dreams. If only they only had the decency to politely ask like Kanye did. Boom criminal justice reform.
 
I wouldn't call Trump a "good leader" because he's got a lot of leadership skills he lacks. I would say he's an effective one but that comes from him being a businessman. A good leader knows how to talk to their people. Trump does not know how to talk to everyone and unify almost all of them. A good leader would not have a nation of people that rip each other apart for their opinions on something. A good leader is also selfless, not selfish. Trump isn't fully to either side of this. If Trump was a good leader, or any political figure was a good leader, they'd sacrifice a second term to get what is right for the people done.
I think being a good leader can be defined in different ways dependent on the situation/setting. There isn't a person on this earth able to unify this country, especially with the social/economical/political climate we are in. It seems like he knows he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't when trying to please his haters so trying to bridge that divide is low on the totem pole. Instead he focuses doing what he can to help the country first and keep the promises he made to his voters second. If he spent all his time trying to placate/unify this country by being a good leader, he wouldn't be able to accomplish anything.
 
I wouldn't call Trump a "good leader" because he's got a lot of leadership skills he lacks. I would say he's an effective one but that comes from him being a businessman. A good leader knows how to talk to their people. Trump does not know how to talk to everyone and unify almost all of them. A good leader would not have a nation of people that rip each other apart for their opinions on something. A good leader is also selfless, not selfish. Trump isn't fully to either side of this. If Trump was a good leader, or any political figure was a good leader, they'd sacrifice a second term to get what is right for the people done.
And what exactly is it that is right by the people that is worth the sacrifice? Government healthcare?
 
Biden is a rapist that I've personally witnessed sexually assault women on television. It's not just talk with him. He loves groping underage women in his spare time, giving them creepy shoulder rubs while whispering "daddy's home." Just ask Mellisa Mylano. She is a supporter despite being sexually assaulted by Joe Biden. Don't believe Joe Biden's a creep? Why don't you check out the many videos of the all the Joe Biden unwanted sexual advances, and go check out the pedophilia statements Joe Biden made about having children sit on his lap and rub his leg. I guess he took notes from the other rapist Democrat President, Bill Clinton, who loved to rape minors on Epstein's sex slave island with presidential candidate in 2008, Bill Richardson. I wish we could have learned more about this incident, but they murdered him. And that's okay cause Democrats don't really care about murder and rape. They practice those things often. Cheating on his wife? Clinton accomplished that feat a mere 25 years ago when he took advantage of an intern in the oval office. Hillary Clinton didn't care. She played her role while her husband was raping and assaulting cause they promised her that she could be President one day.

Then there was the Bush that lied us into a war so he could kill people, and Biden helped out with that cause so his family could profit. There was McCain and Obama, who were responsible for arming ISIS cause they were a "moderate" muslim group, and then Obama just sat by when things got out of control and chemical weapons were allowed to be ignited in Syria. They said it was the government of Syria. wink wink.

So many depraved acts. So many murdered and victimized. And the mainstream media just ignored most it. Those politicians on the left and right are allies of the corporate entities and partnerships for whom they work.


Tell me what Trump did again? He loves porn stars? Cool. He cheats on his wife? Well that's never been a problem. He loves money? Yeah cause money is sweet. He cheats on his taxes? The countless Democrats that have cheated on their taxes is immense.

Trump is also in Epstein’s little black book.
 
You really think he hired the guy? Trump relied on former political operatives from the Republican Party to hire much of his personnel, especially in the early years. In fact, Dems like you criticized him for that. Now your saying he knows all these guys?

I literally hired a contractor that hired a bunch of subcontractors that hired a bunch of laborers. I didn't know the names of every employee, and I didn't know some of the subcontractors. Get real.

Secretary of The Navy? He doesn’t know who he is? GTFOH. The President appoints SecNav with Senate approval, so yes, he does know who he is. Remember, Trump got rid of his predecessor, Richard Spencer, over the Eddie Gallagher case.
 


So there you have it. Because the WSJ, a respected conservative leaning paper, doesn’t publish the ratings of how many people watch the WH Press Briefings.. they’re now fake news. Folks... this is what concerns our president while a national crisis is going on.
 
This is a serious reach. Do you "know" everyone you have stood next to? How about do you really "know" everyone you even work with? Now if he had said he never met the man then maybe you would have a point, however if you met someone once do you always remember them, if you do you are much better at it than I am.
Not a serious reach at all.. you think the POTUS randomly walked up and just happened to find an open seat to a guy who just happened to be the Secretary of the Navy? Cmon don't be in such denial. No telling how many times they have sat around the table together at top level military briefings.
 


So there you have it. Because the WSJ, a respected conservative leaning paper, doesn’t publish the ratings of how many people watch the WH Press Briefings.. they’re now fake news. Folks... this is what concerns our president while a national crisis is going on.
Its stupid talk, but his governance and policy making,make up for it. In 50 years no one will care about his ramblings, but they will the economy and how he's completely overhauled the judicial system and overhauled the trade system.. all of the petty, personality stuff that many of us do not like do not compare to the change that he has brought. If we don't have a good economy that participates in Fair Trade Practices we wouldn't have a country to ----- about all the pettiness.
 
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trump has sexually assaulted tens to hundreds of women. He also walked in on the teen miss America dressing room. He’s a sicko and our current president. Biden is harmless and there are no reputable accusations of him doing anything improper.

Here. Learn. Many of these women were paid. There were also wikileak documents that corroborated these arrangements, but they were scratched by the government after social media platforms had to testify in congress over the alleged DNC hack, which has been refuted by metadata evidence showing that the documents were uploaded to flash drive.

They did the same thing to Kavanaugh and McCain. Your party fabricates rape cases. They encourage false reports against the political opposition and pay people to do it. Nobody paid Alyssa Mylano to accuse Joe Biden of sexual assault. It's not a baseless accusation that came out of the blue after while Biden was running for President. Biden didn't make braggadocious statements like he was in a locker room like Trump or any other guy would do in a locker room. Biden made unwanted sexual advances on women on camera for everybody to see. I literally witnessed him come up behind a woman, rub her shoulders, sensually rub his nose against a her head and sniff/kiss the back of it. I've seen him rubbing young girls - children in a sexual manner. He made a sexual advance on a minor at an official press conference. Sorry, but I'm taking the guy that likes to cheat on his wife with Pornstars. Not going to vote for a kid toucher.
 


So there you have it. Because the WSJ, a respected conservative leaning paper, doesn’t publish the ratings of how many people watch the WH Press Briefings.. they’re now fake news. Folks... this is what concerns our president while a national crisis is going on.


It's 1 of 13 tweets. The rest are about the National crisis. You forgot to mention that in your post. You or the person you follow must have been really bored. Who cares about the political leanings of the paper anyway? Whether it's a left-wing or right-wing paper, it's still a corporate entity drafting propaganda in the interest of certain segments of the population.

Anyway, I honestly don't care that the President spends 2 minutes of the day posting tweets about something that bugs him. I rather my President write tweets than have Joe Biden riding around giving back rubs to 12 year-old girls during the coronavirus outbreak. The former if in line with social distancing guidelines.
 
Here. Learn. Many of these women were paid. There were also wikileak documents that corroborated these arrangements, but they were scratched by the government after social media platforms had to testify in congress over the alleged DNC hack, which has been refuted by metadata evidence showing that the documents were uploaded to flash drive.

They did the same thing to Kavanaugh and McCain. Your party fabricates rape cases. They encourage false reports against the political opposition and pay people to do it. Nobody paid Alyssa Mylano to accuse Joe Biden of sexual assault. It's not a baseless accusation that came out of the blue after while Biden was running for President. Biden didn't make braggadocious statements like he was in a locker room like Trump or any other guy would do in a locker room. Biden made unwanted sexual advances on women on camera for everybody to see. I literally witnessed him come up behind a woman, rub her shoulders, sensually rub his nose against a her head and sniff/kiss the back of it. I've seen him rubbing young girls - children in a sexual manner. He made a sexual advance on a minor at an official press conference. Sorry, but I'm taking the guy that likes to cheat on his wife with Pornstars. Not going to vote for a kid toucher.

show me something from a non biased media source that reports on Biden being credibly accused of rape, sexual assault. I can post 10 credible accusations against trump. He raped his own wife man. he cheated on his pregnant wife with a pornstar. He has no moral compass.
 
show me something from a non biased media source that reports on Biden being credibly accused of rape, sexual assault. I can post 10 credible accusations against trump. He raped his own wife man. he cheated on his pregnant wife with a pornstar. He has no moral compass.
A billionaire playboy who loved to have sex with beautiful women in his prime accused of rape and sexual assault by 10 women? Only 10? Dont be so gullable.......Im pretty sure if Hoe Biden had billions back in his hey day you could write the same story.
 
Its stupid talk, but his governance and policy making,make up for it. In 50 years no one will care about his ramblings, but they will the economy and how he's completely overhauled the judicial system and overhauled the trade system.. all of the petty, personality stuff that many of us do not like do not compare to the change that he has brought. If we don't have a good economy that participates in Fair Trade Practices we wouldn't have a country to ----- about all the pettiness.

His economy couldn't even sustain through his presidency and you think its gonna be there in 50 years?
 
Those who say Trump’s rhetoric is meaningless are falling right into his plans. By repeating the same drums over and over (America first, fake news, etc) , he’s basically hypnotizing people to take the bait, hook, line and sinker.

America first! That resonates with many of us. We’re Americans after all. But what does America first mean? Some think it means we’re going to bring back all manufacturing to the US so as not to rely on China or other foreign countries for our supply chains. That ain’t happening until Americans are prepared to work for peanuts or are prepared to pay through the nose for everything.

Fake news! That also resonates with many of us. We all know there is an inherent media bias to the left. But that doesn’t mean the news is all fake. But if you can convince the masses to mistrust the media, you can exercise a great deal of control.

Trump’s brand of nationalism has never ended well, it won’t end well here either.
 
Those who say Trump’s rhetoric is meaningless are falling right into his plans. By repeating the same drums over and over (America first, fake news, etc) , he’s basically hypnotizing people to take the bait, hook, line and sinker.

America first! That resonates with many of us. We’re Americans after all. But what does America first mean? Some think it means we’re going to bring back all manufacturing to the US so as not to rely on China or other foreign countries for our supply chains. That ain’t happening until Americans are prepared to work for peanuts or are prepared to pay through the nose for everything.

Fake news! That also resonates with many of us. We all know there is an inherent media bias to the left. But that doesn’t mean the news is all fake. But if you can convince the masses to mistrust the media, you can exercise a great deal of control.

Trump’s brand of nationalism has never ended well, it won’t end well here either.
Most people can decipher the truth of what the media reports for themselves. Those that can't are CONTROLLED by them so what's the real difference here? Media control has never ended well either......Its a heck of a lot easier to control what you hear from a president than it is the media. That's just a simple fact!
 
I do. In fact it will be better once this passes.

No economy has ever lasted 50 years. Trumps wont either.

The infrastructure and overall American mindset will never allow us to switch to US bought stuff fast enough. It will take a decade or more of getting people in a new mindset to buy American.
 
No economy has ever lasted 50 years. Trumps wont either.

The infrastructure and overall American mindset will never allow us to switch to US bought stuff fast enough. It will take a decade or more of getting people in a new mindset to buy American.
I definitely was not saying the economy would last 50 years but I definitely was saying that your kids your grandkids would definitely remember back on this time and see how the economic changes because of trump saved the country in the long term economically. The fact that he has put more conservative judges on the court than any other president in recent history also.
 
show me something from a non biased media source that reports on Biden being credibly accused of rape, sexual assault. I can post 10 credible accusations against trump. He raped his own wife man. he cheated on his pregnant wife with a pornstar. He has no moral compass.
The requirement of a president to have a moral compass went out the door with JFK and probably earlier, so please save the pearl clutching and rending of clothes. But I do find it interesting that MSM only makes it a requirement when there is a sitting Republican president. Also, I can't wait to see the non biased, credible accusations you have against trump. Although you didn't specifically reference what those accusations involved, it's nice knowing you will be working diligently to fulfill that part of your mind that trump lives in rent free.
 
Dude do you realize you’re trashing America? Worse than any other country? No matter how bad it gets in America it’s my home and my family. I will die for this country before I surrender it. If America is that bad to you then pack up and move to a better country. No one is holding you here.
From the Coronavirus thread,
Matthew70, I'm sure you understand it is the right of all of us to criticize or even to "trash" America. Just because someone has criticism doesn't meant they should leave. The fact that you believe so reflects very poorly on you.
If you don't like people criticizing the country, maybe you should leave? /s
 
No economy has ever lasted 50 years. Trumps wont either.

The infrastructure and overall American mindset will never allow us to switch to US bought stuff fast enough. It will take a decade or more of getting people in a new mindset to buy American.
I don’t know, the way the government is devaluing the dollar (giving everyone and their pet poodle money) it may be too expensive to import nearly as much once this panic subsides. Manufacturing may head back to the US on economics alone.
 
I don’t know, the way the government is devaluing the dollar (giving everyone and their pet poodle money) it may be too expensive to import nearly as much once this panic subsides. Manufacturing may head back to the US on economics alone.
Doubt it. Developed countries never shift backwards into deep industrialization. Best option I'd say is invest in a better country with people who are not oppressed by their governments and can manufacture cheaper than what we can in the US BUT with safer and cleaner measures than China.
 
Most people can decipher the truth of what the media reports for themselves. Those that can't are CONTROLLED by them so what's the real difference here? Media control has never ended well either......Its a heck of a lot easier to control what you hear from a president than it is the media. That's just a simple fact!
Exactly. I've seen more people influenced by a biased agenda driven media than any rhetoric from any politician. Especially the youth of our day. It's not even close and I get tired of being told I'm "controlled" or his lapdog. I'm a free thinker not swayed by words but actions.
 
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