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LithiaWx said:
Ok, so you’re cool with it. Got it.
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No. I just don't care about those things in relation to the things I see going on in the government by the political elite. The whole bipartisan world seem pretty cool with all the things you mentioned, and they have been since the Clinton era. They just don't talk about it, and the media has definitely chosen to ignore it. I just don't understand how you're cool with the current and past Democratic Presidential candidates touching kids, groping underage girls, having sex with slaves, as well as sexually assaulting and raping women. They do it on camera, and you seem pretty cool with it. All the things you mentioned I get, but rape and molestation? Something is wrong with left-wing thinking in this country. Even Alyssa Milano is pretty cool with the idea of supporting her sexually violent attacker.
 
Sandbar said:
Yes.....There are so many appointments in an administration. Was this a position the President would be personally tied to? Im sure he knows his name but know him? Its not surprising that Trump said he doesnt know him. Its also a quick way to move on from another question that is less important than lives and the coronavirus. The entire thing was a cluster
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It's all conjecture. I've met a neighbor that lives three houses down from me, but I don't know his name. I could describe him to you? I'm not sure if he's Hispanic, White or some kinda mix? But you'll have the mainstream media pretend like a brief meet and greet is some kind of close relationship.

Another trick the media has fraudulently and unprofessionally implemented on a weekly basis is the use of one or two unnamed sources that are "familiar with a situation" that the President denies or doesn't remember. These people come out of the wood work when the media starts looking stupid. These sources always provide information that is less than credible, without providing any details to demonstrate factual knowledge. They also never provide anything to demonstrate their credentials. In law, we call this hearsay within hearsay, and it's inadmissible in court. In fact, any allegation is considered insufficient on its face. Not credible. In fact, if a lawyer tried to bring this in a Judge would chastise that person for lack of candor or dishonesty to the court.
 
Tornadocane said:
No. I just don't care about those things in relation to the things I see going on in the government by the political elite. The whole bipartisan world seem pretty cool with all the things you mentioned, and they have been since the Clinton era. They just don't talk about it, and the media has definitely chosen to ignore it. I just don't understand how you're cool with the current and past Democratic Presidential candidates touching kids, groping underage girls, having sex with slaves, as well as sexually assaulting and raping women. They do it on camera, and you seem pretty cool with it. All the things you mentioned I get, but rape and molestation? Something is wrong with left-wing thinking in this country. Even Alyssa Milano is pretty cool with the idea of supporting her sexually violent attacker.
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lol

trump has sexually assaulted tens to hundreds of women. He also walked in on the teen miss America dressing room. He’s a sicko and our current president. Biden is harmless and there are no reputable accusations of him doing anything improper.
 
But Clinton...... that was 20 years ago and I didn’t support him regardless if he did anything improper. Team right wing is obsessed with the clintons. It’s a true derangement syndrome.
 
LithiaWx said:
But Clinton...... that was 20 years ago and I didn’t support him regardless if he did anything improper. Team right wing is obsessed with the clintons. It’s a true derangement syndrome.
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Hillary Clinton was running four years ago, and her husband has been accused of underage sex with slave within the last couple of years. I'm also talking about Biden's sexual assaults. But let's talk about Trump how Trump cheats on his wife cause that's relevant.

Yeah Trump derangement is real. A symptom seems to be total obliviousness to irony.
 
LithiaWx said:
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trump has sexually assaulted tens to hundreds of women. He also walked in on the teen miss America dressing room. He’s a sicko and our current president. Biden is harmless and there are no reputable accusations of him doing anything improper.
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Yeah. The media tried putting one of those women on television, and she said it was consensual. When she wasn't promoting her book, she was advocating that women want, and enjoy, rape. Also, I didn't actually see Trump do it. I saw Biden do it. I've seen him with my own eyes grope and massage young girls. I heard him confess putting young children on his lap, and loving them rub his leg.
 
Tornadocane said:
Hillary Clinton was running four years ago, and her husband has been accused of underage sex with slave within the last couple of years. I'm also talking about Biden's sexual assaults. But let's talk about Trump how Trump cheats on his wife cause that's relevant.

Yeah Trump derangement is real. A symptom seems to be total obliviousness to irony.
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Honestly, both are crap in their own ways and frauds. I'm truly disappointed that our nation has these two clowns as our only viable options. At least we didn't end up with Bernie coming close to the nominee.
 
ForsythSnow said:
Honestly, both are crap in their own ways and frauds. I'm truly disappointed that our nation has these two clowns as our only viable options. At least we didn't end up with Bernie coming close to the nominee.
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Have said this many times. If you want personality in your candidate Trump is more than likely going to disappoint you in more ways than one. I didnt hire him to ride on a float in the rose bowl parade and be a spokesman for clean living. He is a builder, a problem solver and a cut throat businessman. Its what this country needs, not another BS artist......well see in a few months which one America wants. A builder or a career BS shoveling puppet....agree 100% about dodging Bernie
 
ForsythSnow said:
Honestly, both are crap in their own ways and frauds. I'm truly disappointed that our nation has these two clowns as our only viable options. At least we didn't end up with Bernie coming close to the nominee.
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I'm kind of impartial to a laboratory-made candidate with both Bernie and Trump's best qualities. I like that both of them cut through the BS to solve problems in their own way. Trump just has so many qualities of a good leader and a lot of economic and social values that makes some of Bernie Sander's better socialist policies workable in a capitalist system. I think we see some of that with the President attempting the pseudo-medicare-for-all policy for all people in America suffering from coronavirus, Bernie's policy of lower cost on services, and the endeavor by both to lower the cost of prescriptions drugs. I think both of them actually care for Americans, whether or not it's due to Trump wanting to remembered as a great president or Bernie for trying to install Soviet rule for the benefit of the working class. I actually think Trump feels a connection with the working class by interacting with blue collar contractors and subcontractors, because I also had that connection and sense of comraderie with my workers when I worked as a construction manager.

In contrast, I honestly don't think Biden cares at all about people. From lying about the Iraq War, abuses of power, public displays of sexual impropriety and contact with young women and underage girls, support for the legislation and improper implementation of Criminal Justice Act, etc., etc., etc., I just think he lives in a political, elite bubble in which he feels like he should be able to take advantage of a situation. He's been a politician all his life, and has always had a corrupt relationship with corporations from Americare, the chines oil company, Ukraine, military contractors, and financial/credit industry. He is the very reason Judges and politicians started getting kickbacks from prisons after the criminal Justice Act was enacted. He knows what he is doing is wrong. On the other hand, I honestly don't think Trump knows some of the things he does are wrong cause he's not from that world. He doesn't know what is appropo, and has sometimes said he will do something that isn't proper only to come back and say, "Apparently they told me that's against the law, and I like to follow the law." While not savvy, I respect that level of openness. His ego is the real problem.
 
Tornadocane said:
I'm kind of impartial to a laboratory-made candidate with both Bernie and Trump's best qualities. I like that both of them cut through the BS to solve problems in their own way. Trump just has so many qualities of a good leader and a lot of economic and social values that makes some of Bernie Sander's better socialist policies workable in a capitalist system. I think we see some of that with the President attempting the pseudo-medicare-for-all policy for all people in America suffering from coronavirus, Bernie's policy of lower cost on services, and the endeavor by both to lower the cost of prescriptions drugs. I think both of them actually care for Americans, whether or not it's due to Trump wanting to remembered as a great president or Bernie for trying to install Soviet rule for the benefit of the working class. I actually think Trump feels a connection with the working class by interacting with blue collar contractors and subcontractors, because I also had that connection and sense of comraderie with my workers when I worked as a construction manager.

In contrast, I honestly don't think Biden cares at all about people. From lying about the Iraq War, abuses of power, public displays of sexual impropriety and contact with young women and underage girls, support for the legislation and improper implementation of Criminal Justice Act, etc., etc., etc., I just think he lives in a political, elite bubble in which he feels like he should be able to take advantage of a situation. He's been a politician all his life, and has always had a corrupt relationship with corporations from Americare, the chines oil company, Ukraine, military contractors, and financial/credit industry. He is the very reason Judges and politicians started getting kickbacks from prisons after the criminal Justice Act was enacted. He knows what he is doing is wrong. On the other hand, I honestly don't think Trump knows some of the things he does are wrong cause he's not from that world. He doesn't know what is appropo, and has sometimes said he will do something that isn't proper only to come back and say, "Apparently they told me that's against the law, and I like to follow the law." While not savvy, I respect that level of openness. His ego is the real problem.
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I wouldn't call Trump a "good leader" because he's got a lot of leadership skills he lacks. I would say he's an effective one but that comes from him being a businessman. A good leader knows how to talk to their people. Trump does not know how to talk to everyone and unify almost all of them. A good leader would not have a nation of people that rip each other apart for their opinions on something. A good leader is also selfless, not selfish. Trump isn't fully to either side of this. If Trump was a good leader, or any political figure was a good leader, they'd sacrifice a second term to get what is right for the people done.
 
Sandbar said:
Have said this many times. If you want personality in your candidate Trump is more than likely going to disappoint you in more ways than one. I didnt hire him to ride on a float in the rose bowl parade and be a spokesman for clean living. He is a builder, a problem solver and a cut throat businessman. Its what this country needs, not another BS artist......well see in a few months which one America wants. A builder or a career BS shoveling puppet....agree 100% about dodging Bernie
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Yep. After watching the last 25 years of politics I honestly don't want anymore life-long politicians as President. If you want to write or decide law, you should stay in the Legislative or Judicial branch. I just don't want anymore of this constant bipartisan footsying around. These people are too comfortable with each other and political or corporate allies in the media, and all of them benefit from the corruption that naturally occurs when nobody wants holds anyone else truly accountable cause everyone is on the conspiracy/collusion. Nothing really gets done when everyone, their families and business partners, have a financial stake in the ineptitude of legislation.

So I hired him for the job mostly due to the fact that he didn't embody the political classes that you see on the Republican side with the Bush family and the Democrat side with Pelosi and the Clintons. He upset the balance of power. He could literally get the Republican Party to support medicare-for-all and all kinds of liberal wet dreams. If only they only had the decency to politely ask like Kanye did. Boom criminal justice reform.
 
ForsythSnow said:
I wouldn't call Trump a "good leader" because he's got a lot of leadership skills he lacks. I would say he's an effective one but that comes from him being a businessman. A good leader knows how to talk to their people. Trump does not know how to talk to everyone and unify almost all of them. A good leader would not have a nation of people that rip each other apart for their opinions on something. A good leader is also selfless, not selfish. Trump isn't fully to either side of this. If Trump was a good leader, or any political figure was a good leader, they'd sacrifice a second term to get what is right for the people done.
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I think being a good leader can be defined in different ways dependent on the situation/setting. There isn't a person on this earth able to unify this country, especially with the social/economical/political climate we are in. It seems like he knows he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't when trying to please his haters so trying to bridge that divide is low on the totem pole. Instead he focuses doing what he can to help the country first and keep the promises he made to his voters second. If he spent all his time trying to placate/unify this country by being a good leader, he wouldn't be able to accomplish anything.
 
ForsythSnow said:
I wouldn't call Trump a "good leader" because he's got a lot of leadership skills he lacks. I would say he's an effective one but that comes from him being a businessman. A good leader knows how to talk to their people. Trump does not know how to talk to everyone and unify almost all of them. A good leader would not have a nation of people that rip each other apart for their opinions on something. A good leader is also selfless, not selfish. Trump isn't fully to either side of this. If Trump was a good leader, or any political figure was a good leader, they'd sacrifice a second term to get what is right for the people done.
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And what exactly is it that is right by the people that is worth the sacrifice? Government healthcare?
 
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