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Wildboutsnow said:
Okay..so your saying that declass is not coming? Nobody is looking into how the FISA was handled? Horrowitz report will not bring about more qestions?..Your theory on Trump sounds a little out there too. What is he trying to accomplish? What is his end game? Something he needs and wants that he could not get outside of putting himself, family and America through hell? Which side's conspiracy theories will prove to be facts?...And no offense taken. Epstein and Lolita Island was said to be conspiracy theory too...Also Prince Andrew. I knew about it years ago and thought of course it had to be because it's so sick. It's talked about everyday like it's no big deal now. Just sayin..I would not be so quick to judge and dig deep...Hell, if we were to tell our kids 50 years from now what is going on presently they would think IT"S a conspiracy theory it's so unbelievable. LOL
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What I'm saying is the spin that the site puts on the info likely isn't how it'll play out. It's like using the DGEX as your main model and saying the EPS 500 maps will verify with that DGEX output because you liked it, then serving it to the public on your 5 pm news. I don't know if the Horrowitz report is even going to do anything like you expect it to because at the end of the day it's a guy with a shotgun vs an armed jet. As far as Trump his motives were likely power and fame. Maybe he wanted to fix America to start with, maybe he just wanted power. Maybe he is using his power to fill his pockets though taxpayer dollars into his properties and writing them off like has been mentioned. History also would look back on Trump as a weird president. He'll be re-elected because the senate fails to convict him. He'll be the first to be re elected after almost being impeached. More than likely, it'll say the left went too radical and the right went that way too. I'm sure 20 years from now the parties you see will not be in power and 2 new ones will take shape as the next generation tells the old politicians who failed them to get out.
 
ForsythSnow said:
What I'm saying is the spin that the site puts on the info likely isn't how it'll play out. It's like using the DGEX as your main model and saying the EPS 500 maps will verify with that DGEX output because you liked it, then serving it to the public on your 5 pm news. I don't know if the Horrowitz report is even going to do anything like you expect it to because at the end of the day it's a guy with a shotgun vs an armed jet. As far as Trump his motives were likely power and fame. Maybe he wanted to fix America to start with, maybe he just wanted power. Maybe he is using his power to fill his pockets though taxpayer dollars into his properties and writing them off like has been mentioned. History also would look back on Trump as a weird president. He'll be re-elected because the senate fails to convict him. He'll be the first to be re elected after almost being impeached. More than likely, it'll say the left went too radical and the right went that way too. I'm sure 20 years from now the parties you see will not be in power and 2 new ones will take shape as the next generation tells the old politicians who failed them to get out.
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Oh please let the last few sentences of your post be true.

I want a full reset of our federal govt. Everyone out new elections nobody that's been there 2 terms can run and term limits set out the gate at 2 terms.

Melt that Mofo down and start over.
 
ForsythSnow said:
What I'm saying is the spin that the site puts on the info likely isn't how it'll play out. It's like using the DGEX as your main model and saying the EPS 500 maps will verify with that DGEX output because you liked it, then serving it to the public on your 5 pm news. I don't know if the Horrowitz report is even going to do anything like you expect it to because at the end of the day it's a guy with a shotgun vs an armed jet. As far as Trump his motives were likely power and fame. Maybe he wanted to fix America to start with, maybe he just wanted power. Maybe he is using his power to fill his pockets though taxpayer dollars into his properties and writing them off like has been mentioned. History also would look back on Trump as a weird president. He'll be re-elected because the senate fails to convict him. He'll be the first to be re elected after almost being impeached. More than likely, it'll say the left went too radical and the right went that way too. I'm sure 20 years from now the parties you see will not be in power and 2 new ones will take shape as the next generation tells the old politicians who failed them to get out.
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Doubt it.

This direction started by Obama, grown by Trump and seen in people like Warren and Sanders will only increase. Loud mouthed politicians who bite back and do what they want over the quiet sinister ones who just want to be elected. The only difference is the candidates will get younger and even more outrageous and rude.

The GOP itself is going nowhere. I’ve heard they received record donations in the past months.
 
ForsythSnow said:
What I'm saying is the spin that the site puts on the info likely isn't how it'll play out. It's like using the DGEX as your main model and saying the EPS 500 maps will verify with that DGEX output because you liked it, then serving it to the public on your 5 pm news. I don't know if the Horrowitz report is even going to do anything like you expect it to because at the end of the day it's a guy with a shotgun vs an armed jet. As far as Trump his motives were likely power and fame. Maybe he wanted to fix America to start with, maybe he just wanted power. Maybe he is using his power to fill his pockets though taxpayer dollars into his properties and writing them off like has been mentioned. History also would look back on Trump as a weird president. He'll be re-elected because the senate fails to convict him. He'll be the first to be re elected after almost being impeached. More than likely, it'll say the left went too radical and the right went that way too. I'm sure 20 years from now the parties you see will not be in power and 2 new ones will take shape as the next generation tells the old politicians who failed them to get out.
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You really believe that you will see 2 new parties 20 years from now? Based on what? Honesty?.....LOL. Its frightening to see people today who think Judge Judy is on the supreme court. College kids who can't even tell you what the 3 branches of government are. I could go on for days. People need to worry less about the 2 present parties and worry a bit more about the ignorant folks that continue to vote them in. These are the same folks that are going to be voting for your 2 new parties as well
 
Arcc said:
Doubt it.

This direction started by Obama, grown by Trump and seen in people like Warren and Sanders will only increase. Loud mouthed politicians who bite back and do what they want over the quiet sinister ones who just want to be elected. The only difference is the candidates will get younger and even more outrageous and rude.

The GOP itself is going nowhere. I’ve heard they received record donations in the past months.
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Donations are good. The numerous Twitter threads with Republicans denouncing the party and their walking away from it shouldnt be ignored either.
 
Sandbar said:
You really believe that you will see 2 new parties 20 years from now? Based on what? Honesty?.....LOL. Its frightening to see people today who think Judge Judy is on the supreme court. College kids who can't even tell you what the 3 branches of government are. I could go on for days. People need to worry less about the 2 present parties and worry a bit more about the ignorant folks that continue to vote them in. These are the same folks that are going to be voting for your 2 new parties as well
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If we hit a depression or severe enough of a recession because the government doesn't know how to properly adjust their spending come the next recession and other countries have massive financial issues (queue Brexit) then it might not be so far fetched. Look at what the great depression did to America's politics. And I'm more so talking that the parties as they are right now will be rebranded. Also please do say more about college kids being dumb because I am one myself. We aren't as stupid as you think. The idiots get the spotlight.
 
ForsythSnow said:
If we hit a depression or severe enough of a recession because the government doesn't know how to properly adjust their spending come the next recession and other countries have massive financial issues (queue Brexit) then it might not be so far fetched. Look at what the great depression did to America's politics. And I'm more so talking that the parties as they are right now will be rebranded. Also please do say more about college kids being dumb because I am one myself. We aren't as stupid as you think. The idiots get the spotlight.
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I didn't say all college kids were dumb my man. I said you have college kids that don't know simple things about how government is run. I'm sorry but its just the cold hard truth. I say it all the time but too many people vote with their emotions and not common sense.
 
Arcc said:
I’d wager money talks much more than the few denouncing them.
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It's more than a few. There are long Twitter threads you should look up. Found this quote in one and it hits the nail on the head. It's something SOOOOOO many Republicans have forgotten due to their trump love.
 

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Sandbar said:
I didn't say all college kids were dumb my man. I said you have college kids that don't know simple things about how government is run. I'm sorry but its just the cold hard truth. I say it all the time but too many people vote with their emotions and not common sense.
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Yeah I was taught about the government and how it runs several times in high school, which does a great job of explaining the finer details. AP US history came in handy learning a lot about how our nation operates and patterns in politics. For the record, we learned the 3 branches in 5th grade.
 
ForsythSnow said:
Yeah I was taught about the government and how it runs several times in high school, which does a great job of explaining the finer details. AP US history came in handy learning a lot about how our nation operates and patterns in politics. For the record, we learned the 3 branches in 5th grade.
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Kudos to you for paying attention in class!
 
Shaggy said:
It's more than a few. There are long Twitter threads you should look up. Found this quote in one and it hits the nail on the head. It's something SOOOOOO many Republicans have forgotten due to their trump love.
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When I say few I mean percentage wise. If those Republicans number one million and a voting base of Republicans if let’s say fifty million, they are at 2%. That is statistically minuscule and no way will that break a party. Shoot you can say there are ten million of them and it won’t really matter. True conservatives will not go out and vote democratic just to spite the GOP nominee if he is unhinged. They just won’t vote. While that certainly can change an election it will not destroy a party.

And as much as I don’t like to look at it like this. If Trump gets re-elected and puts two more SC justices up there, many if not most of the conservatives will have a different opinion on Trump in ten years and many sins will be forgiven if the conservative court is working with a conservative constitutional mindset.
 
Why is it that more educated states ( Northeast, etc,) tend to vote Democratic and less educated states (the south) tend to vote Republican?
 
This is funny. Click the thread. It’s like the whole Hallmark issue, stand with what you believe regardless of what you said, because when you change it you look like a weenie.

 
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SoutheastRidge said:
Why is it that more educated states ( Northeast, etc,) tend to vote Democratic and less educated states (the south) tend to vote Republican?
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Graduation from institutions or indoctrination. College degree doesn't absolutely mean "more educated" and I say this as a college graduate with 2 in college now so don't @ me
 
SoutheastRidge said:
Why is it that more educated states ( Northeast, etc,) tend to vote Democratic and less educated states (the south) tend to vote Republican?
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Why is it that Democrats pander to lower income inner city people yet these people never seem to get out of poverty? Thats a really good question and amazingly they continue to vote for them......doesn't sound very "educated" to me
 
SoutheastRidge said:
Why is it that more educated states ( Northeast, etc,) tend to vote Democratic and less educated states (the south) tend to vote Republican?
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I have a master's degree, and I'm a conservative. Having a degree shows grit and determination, but it doesn't show wisdom.
 
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