i believe that 2 years would lead to constant "campaign mode". I'd be okay with (2) 4 year cycles like POTUS.
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i believe that 2 years would lead to constant "campaign mode". I'd be okay with (2) 4 year cycles like POTUS.
NoSnowATL
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Never! If they governed half as much as they campaigned, just imagine what they could accomplish....
Deplorable democrat gov. Cooper doesn’t want law enforcement officers to take orders from ICE. I can see Trump getting us a republican governor soon. Would love to see ICE raids at Tyson Foods in Wilkesboro and elsewhere across the state.
Why is the MSM still stuck on the Trump Alabama gaffe about Dorian? Is news really this slow? Or this low?? Smh.
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Brent
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they got bored with Russia and all the other fake scandals
like do most people in Alabama even care? I mean I left there in 2014 and I know Doug Jones won a Senate race(let's not get into that...) but its still pretty Republican
Some of these posts disappoint me
It is not even the gaffe itself at this point. It is the fact that Trump became so unhinged over it. It just shows how extreme his narcissistic personality disorder is. Beyond that, government officials were ordered to give him cover and defend his madness. That is a real danger, especially to the credibility of organizations tasked with helping to protect life and property.
As for the Confederate BS, the statues were put in place in most cases long after the war ended. They were placed during Jim Crow as reminders of white supremacy. There is no doubt they should come down. They are not tellers of history but rather monuments glorifying racism. No history is lost by tearing them down. Museums and books tell the tale of the Civil War. There are plenty of Confederate battle flags on display at the NC Musueum of History if you so wish to visit for example. If you go to Germany you will not see any monuments to the Nazis but that history isn't forgotten. Finally I don't want to hear this "state's rights" crap either. Preserving slavery was a key tenant in articles of secession. There is little to be proud of when it comes to the Confederacy.
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I would be willing to wager that most presidents and candidates for the presidency are narcissistic. The office attracts a narcissistic personality. When was the last time we had a President with humility and ego under restraint?
Jimmy Carter doesnt strike me as narcissistic
Avalanche
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Fully support states rights. To me, its narrow-minded to want to enforce everyone to live in your own worldview.
I'd also include Bush, Jr. I always thought he was pretty humble and that includes how he has been as an ex-Pres.
Hahaha the "state's rights" claim is a myth. I think most people around the world see slavery as morally reprehensible. Racism is too. I guess you see that differently. Do you think Germany removing Nazi monuments was "forcing people to live" in a certain world view? Also when you lose a war, you typically don't get to put up monuments or your flag.
I am really disappointed in NOAA for actually defending what Trump said. Very irresponsible of them.
Was he talking about slavery or preserving statues?
It was very likely some partisan Trump supporter and not representative of NOAA as a whole. When you have conservatives like JB, Maue, and Spann not defending Trump/saying he erred/saying that NOAA defense of trump was a crock, you can easily conclude that Trump was definitely in the wrong here. But of course not in his mind. Trump's error wasn't a big deal...just another gaffe. But his defending himself like a baby is what made it a big deal. He has nobody but himself to blame...not the media/fake news.
I get what you're saying about Trump's narcissism. He always feels the need to defend his mistakes. But I don't the think the MSM is blameless here either. When they keep rehashing this Dorian tweet debacle it makes the news organizations appear to be a gossip column. If President Trump is weakening the credibility of his office with Twitter then the media outlets that obsess over these issues are also weakening their own credibility for impartial reporting (it's dubious they had this, IMHO). As for the NOAA statement itself, they were merely addressing the issue that the NWS Birmingham meteorologist was speaking in absolute terms about impacts from Dorian. In fact a portion of Alabama had been in the TS wind probability zone just 2 days before that infamous tweet. A better response might have been for NWS to express to the public that at this point in time the threat of any effects from the hurricane was very low.
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The fact that at one point in time AL was at threat is irrelevant because at the time Trump made the statement it was obvious AL had no chance to be impacted.
By that time, even the far left outlier UKMET had shifted all the way to the right to offshore in the Atlantic for several runs in a row. AL's risk of impact from Dorian was essentially zero by then. NWS Birmingham shouldn't have been thrown under the bus by that unnamed NOAA spokesman as Spann, JB, and Maue all said.
NoSnowATL
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Just think if Hillary won. How would we be in a better spot? What would she have done better? You can hate our President all you want too that’s fine, he’s on Twitter way too much but when it comes down to dollars and cents I have more money in my pocket and so does my employees.
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Avalanche
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"state's rights is a myth". LOL, okay.
I agree that Trump would have done better to tell Nova Scotia to prepare for Hurricane Dorian than Alabama. But it's better that folks be geared up and prepped up than not, unless this leads to a Boy Who Cried Wolf mentality. Shoot, I'm all the way west in south Louisiana and even I reviewed my hurricane preps just a few days before, lol. I think we can at least agree that the less Trump takes to Twitter the better.
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pcbjr
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This is not a defense of Trump ... but I invite you to turn off FOX, Rush, Hannity ... and watch nothing for news but CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, ABC ... for a solid week ... nothing else but those, and then rationally put into perspective why the only mass media outlet Trump has to reach out and say whatever he has to say is social media ...
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Heelyes
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Besides the right to own human beings, what states rights were the Confederacy fighting for?
pcbjr
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Study history ... actually study it and learn it ...
... then look at today ... you might see more than your question supposes ...
SimeonNC
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I wonder how the reaction to this election in NC09 will be.
Very ticked off the foothills are getting robbed by the coastal communities. Superstreet in Wilkesboro in front of Walmart now delayed another 2 years. So they can keep rebuilding the road at the outer banks. Over and over again.
Wilkes is very far behind in road infrastructure. It can’t handle ASU football traffic, Merlefest and other events. There is no easy connection between North Wilkesboro and Wilkesboro. A lot needs to be done. Affordable housing too.
Not to mention our homeless shelter just got evicted and now everyone is living behind a save a lot building that closed down recently. In the woods.
LickWx
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Keep the statues up! Most people who have an issue are out of staters anyhow . Think the natives of NC should get final say not people trying to shove their culture down the throat of everyone here . There’s support for these statues up from a diverse group of people , admittedly majority white though. Not all black people are particularly concerned about the fate of those statues .
Keep them up long live Dixie and all her history! The bad good and ugly ! We own it not erase it.
These two songs by Florida native country singer John Anderson describe my sentiments perfectly .
Keep them up long live Dixie and all her history! The bad good and ugly ! We own it not erase it.
These two songs by Florida native country singer John Anderson describe my sentiments perfectly .
LickWx
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States rights or no rights at all. Did you know North Carolina refused to sign the constitution because it did not originally include a Bill of Rights? NC gave us our bill of rights .
Give me liberty or give me death! Every right I give the federal government ( to tax , regulate , or outlaw) is a right I lose!
Heelyes
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Luckily you don't have a right to own slaves
Heelyes
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The statues were put up by a racist people to remind everyone we live in the south. If you believe in states rights so much, how would you feel if your state wanted to ban guns?
The whole statue debate is idiocy. If the people if the town want them, then they should keep them and if they don’t they should tear them down. Simple as that.
So the interesting thing about the statue idiocy specifically as it relates to NC is there are laws that prevent the moving of said statues and there is a process to go about it. I'm not gonna take a stand one way or the other on the statue and it's representation but what I take issue with is not following the laws. The ends do not always justify the means.... if you do not like a law then petition legislators to change the law or get involved in such a way as to have officials elected that will change the law. Simple opposition to a law does not give one the right to "take matters into their own hands" which happened over and over in NC without any repercussions. I abhor abortion but it's legal in this Country, I'm not destroying abortion clinics (and anyone who does should be punished accordingly) that's not how we operate in this Country. We are a land of laws and when that ceases to exist then so does our freedom, so does our great Nation.... it then becomes nothing less than anarchy.
Btw here is the statue:
§ 100-2.1. Protection of monuments, memorials, and works of art. (a) Approval Required. – Except as otherwise provided in subsection (b) of this section, a monument, memorial, or work of art owned by the State may not be removed, relocated, or altered in any way without the approval of the North Carolina Historical Commission. (b) Limitations on Removal. – An object of remembrance located on public property may not be permanently removed and may only be relocated, whether temporarily or permanently, under the circumstances listed in this subsection and subject to the limitations in this subsection. An object of remembrance that is temporarily relocated shall be returned to its original location within 90 days of completion of the project that required its temporary removal. An object of remembrance that is permanently relocated shall be relocated to a site of similar prominence, honor, visibility, availability, and access that are within the boundaries of the jurisdiction from which it was relocated. An object of remembrance may not be relocated to a museum, cemetery, or mausoleum unless it was originally placed at such a location. As used in this section, the term "object of remembrance" means a monument, memorial, plaque, statue, marker, or display of a permanent character that commemorates an event, a person, or military service that is part of North Carolina's history. The circumstances under which an object of remembrance may be relocated are either of the following: (1) When appropriate measures are required by the State or a political subdivision of the State to preserve the object. (2) When necessary for construction, renovation, or reconfiguration of buildings, open spaces, parking, or transportation projects
Now I fully agree with that. The whole issue of the public defacing of city and state property should be dealt with with the fullest extent of the law. I’m thinking of keeping or tearing them down by the process of vote in the town.
I agree and to be fair that wasn't really directed at you but you had the most recent statue post so I went with it... Lol
No harm, no foul. My posts can be used freely.
Heelyes
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The county commissioners voted to have the statue removed and it will be. The only idiots I saw were there flying rebel flags and trying to intimidate people just like the statue
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