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Not sure if this is funny or not, probably not, but this has begun to run in my head...

"I'm Mike Bloomberg and I bought a message that thousands, maybe even millions of people in America are going to grow to hate while the ads are running".
 
This is going to be hilarious watching Sanders and Biden going at it. I am lmao ? just thinking of it. Who will forget the question before answering first!
 
Im not getting out the ole calculator, why GAWX is around, best #s man on the board. But it is a sealed deal tonight that no one Dem candidate is gonna get to 1900ish,the magic delegate #. Its also as likely Biden could possibly have as many delegates in totality as Saunders. So the brokered convention looks very highly likely.
I dont dive into Dem politics, but do you guys who are democrats see it any different now? Based on how the evening has gone.
 
NCSNOW said:
Im not getting out the ole calculator, why GAWX is around, best #s man on the board. But it is a sealed deal tonight that no one Dem candidate is gonna get to 1900ish,the magic delegate #. Its also as likely Biden could possibly have as many delegates in totality as Saunders. So the brokered convention looks very highly likely.
I dont dive into Dem politics, but do you guys who are democrats see it any different now? Based on how the evening has gone.
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I full well expect this to go to the convention. I expect if Sanders is behind in delegates he will contest it to the bitter end, unlike he was advised to do in 2016.


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Matthew70 said:
So are you for everyone having the same income? Is that what you want? Bring down the ones that help economy go? You do realize top will cut jobs and move their assets to other countries? I live in TN. Do you know why it is doing so well? No state income tax. The 6 most successful states in America that are growing. Can you guess which ones they are? The ones with no state income tax! More taxes will shut economy down and will drive unemployment. Oh but wait you would say just take more from the top 1% and middle class. When did it become wrong to make money and be rich or middle class?
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lol no. You have no reading comprehension.
 
tramadoc said:
I full well expect this to go to the convention. I expect if Sanders is behind in delegates he will contest it to the bitter end, unlike he was advised to do in 2016.


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I’m a sanders supporter. If he goes to the convention with less delegates than Biden he need to end it. I would not support him trying to change the will of the voters.

Hopefully superdelegates can be eliminated soon on the dem side. Plurality or majority shouldn’t matter. Whoever has the most delegates at the end needs to be the nom.
 
LithiaWx said:
I’m a sanders supporter. If he goes to the convention with less delegates than Biden he need to end it. I would not support him trying to change the will of the voters.

Hopefully superdelegates can be eliminated soon on the dem side. Plurality or majority shouldn’t matter. Whoever has the most delegates at the end needs to be the nom.
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I can’t support a Democratic Socialist. I support Tulsi until she drops out.


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Biden really having a huge night, no one thought he would pull MN much less be neck and neck in MA and ME....Sanders was +5 in NC 2 days ago on any poll and he lost the state to Biden by 16ish% lol....that's a 21 pt swing in 2 days.....

If Bloomberg drops out this week that is another 10% to Biden.....Bernie desperately needs Warren to drop out tomorrow.....if she stays in the rest of this month with 18 more primaries to go then Biden will get the 1991 delegates straight up. I suspect the DNC will push Warren hard to stay in it....
 
1. @NCSNOW, thanks. I defer to what @Downeastnc just said.

2. Dow futures are way up at over +300! I believe that Biden’s impressive night is a, if not THE, major reason. The last person most investors want as POTUS is Bernie. His chances have clearly dropped sharply tonight. They’d much rather have Joe if it isn’t Trump.
 
GaWx said:
1. @NCSNOW, thanks. I defer to what @Downeastnc just said.

2. Dow futures are way up at over +300! I believe that Biden’s impressive night is a, if not THE, major reason. The last person most investors want as POTUS is Bernie. His chances have clearly dropped sharply tonight. They’d much rather have Joe if it isn’t Trump.
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Biden being the front runner would at least slow down the drop off I think....the fact remains that EVERYONE that follows this stuff knows that Biden has a legit hell even likely chance to beat Trump....and he is really the only Dem currently in the field to do so....do not be surprised if you see him pick someone like Michelle Obama to be his running mate, honestly if that was the ticket I think Trumps chances would drop another 2-3%....
 
Downeastnc said:
Biden really having a huge night, no one thought he would pull MN much less be neck and neck in MA and ME....Sanders was +5 in NC 2 days ago on any poll and he lost the state to Biden by 16ish% lol....that's a 21 pt swing in 2 days.....

If Bloomberg drops out this week that is another 10% to Biden.....Bernie desperately needs Warren to drop out tomorrow.....if she stays in the rest of this month with 18 more primaries to go then Biden will get the 1991 delegates straight up. I suspect the DNC will push Warren hard to stay in it....
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Benefiting from the votes that would have gone to the people who dropped out. Warren and Bloomberg are done. Hard to believe that an elderly man with advancing dementia is the best the Democrats can put forward. And Bernie will fall in line like he's told to. Just watch.
 
Downeastnc said:
Biden being the front runner would at least slow down the drop off I think....the fact remains that EVERYONE that follows this stuff knows that Biden has a legit hell even likely chance to beat Trump....and he is really the only Dem currently in the field to do so....do not be surprised if you see him pick someone like Michelle Obama to be his running mate, honestly if that was the ticket I think Trumps chances would drop another 2-3%....
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Yep, they're so desperate they'll pander any way they can, then once he picks her he has some kind of "accident or episode."
 
Downeastnc said:
Biden being the front runner would at least slow down the drop off I think....the fact remains that EVERYONE that follows this stuff knows that Biden has a legit hell even likely chance to beat Trump....and he is really the only Dem currently in the field to do so....do not be surprised if you see him pick someone like Michelle Obama to be his running mate, honestly if that was the ticket I think Trumps chances would drop another 2-3%....
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One key will be for Biden to not have too many gaffes. After mixing up who was on each side of him between his wife and sis because they apparently were standing on the opposite sides that he thought (a funny moment which will likely circulate and typical of his gaffes), he gave a strong speech, even despite those two nuts interrupting him. He was startled but then pulled himself together.

I am frankly worried for Biden that Trump would tear him apart in any debates they may have. One big key will be the economy come fall.
 
Downeastnc said:
Biden being the front runner would at least slow down the drop off I think....the fact remains that EVERYONE that follows this stuff knows that Biden has a legit hell even likely chance to beat Trump....and he is really the only Dem currently in the field to do so....do not be surprised if you see him pick someone like Michelle Obama to be his running mate, honestly if that was the ticket I think Trumps chances would drop another 2-3%....
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I don’t buy that the dem primary has much of an impact on the markets. There are serious supply and possibly demand issues, the market was way too high prior to the pandemic, and we have companies already forecasting zero growth for 2020. The fundamentals arestrong in the market but we have some serious forces pushing things down. Add panic and it’s a cluster. The market will be bumpy for a few months at least. I expect another 15-20% shave off of our current numbers before we find the true bottom.
 
LithiaWx said:
I don’t buy that the dem primary has much of an impact on the markets. There are serious supply and possibly demand issues, the market was way too high prior to the pandemic, and we have companies already forecasting zero growth for 2020. The fundamentals arestrong in the market but we have some serious forces pushing things down. Add panic and it’s a cluster. The market will be bumpy for a few months at least. I expect another 15-20% shave off of our current numbers before we find the true bottom.
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I could see all of this happening.....GDP forecast kinda flat as the year goes on, economic growth obviously slowing without virus panics.....add election year jitters, and the fact the market is overvalued and propped up and who knows.
 
Downeastnc said:
I could see all of this happening.....GDP forecast kinda flat as the year goes on, economic growth obviously slowing without virus panics.....add election year jitters, and the fact the market is overvalued and propped up and who knows.
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the wallstreet casino. I could be 100% wrong. If I was so sure I’d just short the market. Just am not confident enough to put my money there. I pulled back into about 60% bonds, 30% semi aggressive stocks and 10% cash. I did that about 5-10% ago so far a good decision. I was at 80% stocks, 10% bonds, and 10% cash.
 
No way to sugarcoat this, this was a bad night for Sanders even if he carries both CA/TX. When he lost MN/MA......Speaking of that, I was uncertain yesterday, but definitely certain tonight, Warren really f-d Sanders over, I can only imagine if she wasn't in the race, Sanders probably would have carried MA, MN, and possibly ran away with ME.
 
Downeastnc said:
Biden really having a huge night, no one thought he would pull MN much less be neck and neck in MA and ME....Sanders was +5 in NC 2 days ago on any poll and he lost the state to Biden by 16ish% lol....that's a 21 pt swing in 2 days.....

If Bloomberg drops out this week that is another 10% to Biden.....Bernie desperately needs Warren to drop out tomorrow.....if she stays in the rest of this month with 18 more primaries to go then Biden will get the 1991 delegates straight up. I suspect the DNC will push Warren hard to stay in it....
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Imo polls were way off on things with Sanders vs Biden... i trust them a lot less after how 2016 turned out.
 
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Now it is a Bernie-Joe race to the finish line. I fully expect the establishment Democrats to make sure Joe gets the nomination even if they have to cheat to do it. The "debates" from now on will be fun, Joe will mistake Bernie for his wife at some point and kiss him, on the mouth.
 
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Sandbar said:
Which is exactly why this is going to be a slaughter for Trump in November
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Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, & Utah had more votes for Trump than the top 3 in D's field; some states it was very close to Trump having more votes than the entire D field. Alabama obviously were more votes for Trump than the entire D field, Colorado was a big surprise though at being close.

Folks are energized for sure, need it to maintain at a minimum and ideally increase.
 
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LetItSnow said:
Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, & Utah had more votes for Trump than the top 3 in D's field; some states it was very close to Trump having more votes than the entire D field. Alabama obviously were more votes for Trump than the entire D field, Colorado was a big surprise though at being close.

Folks are energized for sure, need it to maintain at a miimum and ideally increase.
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I was about to make this point as well! Trumps supporters coming out in full force when he is basically running unopposed is huge! The Dem primaries are going to get interesting now. All out war between Sleepy Joe and The Bern. Oh and Bloomberg won American Samoa for 3/4 of a billion! What a bargain.....
 
snowlover91 said:
Imo polls were way off on things with Sanders vs Biden... i trust them a lot less after how 2016 turned out.
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It had more to do with the moderate Dems dropping out and Biden getting all the endorsements IMO, polls are not going to be able to accurately capture big moves like that over just a few days time usually....
 
Downeastnc said:
It had more to do with the moderate Dems dropping out and Biden getting all the endorsements IMO, polls are not going to be able to accurately capture big moves like that over just a few days time usually....
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Yeah that probably had a role in things as well, pretty hard to quantify what effect that had. Who do you think Biden picks as VP if he's the nominee?
 
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