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Sandbar said:
A minimum wage raise to 10-12 dollars I can get behind. If you take a Dave Ramsey course and learn how to manage that new found fortune we wouldn't have to have these conversation about how people can't live on this wage. Well you can if you understand how to actually rein in your budget so you can progress up the ladder. I have seen single moms (my sister) who paid off a brick home and put her kids through college. She has a nest egg built up to retire on because she read a Dave Ramsey book and changed her life.

I have also knows millionaires who don't have a pot to piss in. There is a big difference between having money and spending it wisely
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My wife and I do the Dave Ramsey envelope thing. It’s amazing.
 
Sandbar said:
A minimum wage raise to 10-12 dollars I can get behind. If you take a Dave Ramsey course and learn how to manage that new found fortune we wouldn't have to have these conversation about how people can't live on this wage. Well you can if you understand how to actually rein in your budget so you can progress up the ladder. I have seen single moms (my sister) who paid off a brick home and put her kids through college. She has a nest egg built up to retire on because she read a Dave Ramsey book and changed her life.

I have also knows millionaires who don't have a pot to piss in. There is a big difference between having money and spending it wisely
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Yeah a wage around that would be a good increase since the current is really low especially in states like GA. 15 is too extreme but 10 or so would make sense. And yes Dave Ramsey is a good way to learn about money management.
 
Rain Cold said:
I really, really REALLY hope that Sanders outperforms. That will make for a really interesting convention. You got a front runner with clear dementia against a socialist, duking it out, neither likely to beat Trump, IMO. They will have to bring someone in at the convention.

Hill.... :D
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That will be Armageddon for the Democrat party and it would be glorious. If Biden gets the establishment treatment and it’s obvious, there will be war on the Sanders side.
 
Sandbar said:
A minimum wage raise to 10-12 dollars I can get behind. If you take a Dave Ramsey course and learn how to manage that new found fortune we wouldn't have to have these conversation about how people can't live on this wage. Well you can if you understand how to actually rein in your budget so you can progress up the ladder. I have seen single moms (my sister) who paid off a brick home and put her kids through college. She has a nest egg built up to retire on because she read a Dave Ramsey book and changed her life.

I have also knows millionaires who don't have a pot to piss in. There is a big difference between having money and spending it wisely
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It needs to be raised to be better in line with inflation imo. But, it is still minimum wage. Over a short time all other wages and prices will adjust higher, leaving the minimum wage workers in still in poverty.
 
Early voting that happened before SC will stunt the momentum Biden is getting. If Biden doesn’t do well tonight you can kiss that momentum good bye. I’m looking forward to a late night of watching the results pour in.
 
LithiaWx said:
Early voting that happened before SC will stunt the momentum Biden is getting. If Biden doesn’t do well tonight you can kiss that momentum good bye. I’m looking forward to a late night of watching the results pour in.
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What time will the results start coming in?
 
snowlover91 said:
What time will the results start coming in?
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first polls on the East coast start closing around 6? The west coast results will be late. CA could take a week to sort out due to mail in ballots etc. but we will have an idea how things shook at by around 11pm-1am. JMO your mileage may vary.
 
I voted Trump. Didn’t know anyone else for the other races so I just pick top names. You would think this day and age they could include a picture beside the name so I could at least vote on looks or something. Too many races department of insurance and LT governor? I never heard of any of them.
 
LithiaWx said:
first polls on the East coast start closing around 6? The west coast results will be late. CA could take a week to sort out due to mail in ballots etc. but we will have an idea how things shook at by around 11pm-1am. JMO your mileage may vary.
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yeah from 6pm-Midnight ET I would say. Obviously the closer it is the longer it'll take
 
LithiaWx said:
Early voting that happened before SC will stunt the momentum Biden is getting. If Biden doesn’t do well tonight you can kiss that momentum good bye. I’m looking forward to a late night of watching the results pour in.
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Im with you in the sense that I want bernie to win, but I would just caution you to not get too optimistic. A good amount of voters in the democratic party refuse to learn from 2016's mistakes (older candidate, establishment, same old same old) and it will ultimately cost them the election again.
 
whatitdo said:
Im with you in the sense that I want bernie to win, but I would just caution you to not get too optimistic. A good amount of voters in the democratic party refuse to learn from 2016's mistakes (older candidate, establishment, same old same old) and it will ultimately cost them the election again.
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No matter what flavor people label these candidates (even Trump), be it liberal, socialist, centrist, far right....This comes down to whether or not you friggin hate rich people or not. At least in my eyes it does. Everyone that goes in that booth had better think long and hard about how you feel this country is going to look if people with money are attacked. I can assure you if Bernie Sanders by some miracle wins they aren't going to pay for his policies even if whomever controls congress is stupid enough to allow it through. The stock market may be overinflated but the money coming back into the country is real and it can head back out just as easy (and it will) if that bum is elected
 
GaWx said:
From PredictIt, Joe continues upward with his big mo. Just 2 days ago, it was Sanders 0.57 to Biden's 0.31. Here's today's:

2020 Democratic nominee?
Biden
53¢ +8¢
Sanders
38¢ -7¢
Bloomberg
7¢ NC
Clinton
6¢ +1¢

Two of the keys:
1. Texas

PredictIt

www.predictit.org www.predictit.org
Biden 0.53 (+0.05)
Sanders 0.49 (-0.09)

2. NY

PredictIt

www.predictit.org www.predictit.org
Biden 0.55 (+0.08)
Sanders 0.39 (-0.11)
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I’m going to buy some sanders shares today before the results start coming in. That’s a good price.
 
NoSnowATL said:
They won’t let Bernie win. Everybody knows this. Hell Bernie probably knows it.


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It is more than that imo. Most folks, especially older than Millenials, are not socialist and will take anyone other than a socialist or however you want to classify him.
 
Sandbar said:
No matter what flavor people label these candidates (even Trump), be it liberal, socialist, centrist, far right....This comes down to whether or not you friggin hate rich people or not. At least in my eyes it does. Everyone that goes in that booth had better think long and hard about how you feel this country is going to look if people with money are attacked. I can assure you if Bernie Sanders by some miracle wins they aren't going to pay for his policies even if whomever controls congress is stupid enough to allow it through. The stock market may be overinflated but the money coming back into the country is real and it can head back out just as easy (and it will) if that bum is elected
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I wouldn't say it's hate for rich people, rather disdain for a system that operates like it's socialist for the rich. Many Sanders supporters aren't voting for him so they can make this country completely socialist. They understand that like every other major country in the world with sensible healthcare, it's ok to put some socialist policies (like social security for example) in addition to the standard capitalistic economy. That's truly what democratic socialism is.
 
The Dow ended up nearly 800 down, a bad day especially with the announced 50 -- rate cut. However, it is still 1,200 points above the Friday intraday low. Also, maybe much of this fall today was fueled by folks taking profits from the 2,000 point bounce.
 
whatitdo said:
I wouldn't say it's hate for rich people, rather disdain for a system that operates like it's socialist for the rich. Many Sanders supporters aren't voting for him so they can make this country completely socialist. They understand that like every other major country in the world with sensible healthcare, it's ok to put some socialist policies (like social security for example) in addition to the standard capitalistic economy. That's truly what democratic socialism is.
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Understood but having traveled pretty much the entire world during my military service i have found that many people in these small socoalist countries have many issues with it that dont get talked about. We arent a nation of 5 million people with strict immigration policies. We have 300 + million with a very lax immigration problem. Middle class taxes WILL skyrocket and thats going to be unacceptable to the majority of people in America. Its just that simple. I wish healthcare was not the issue it is, among other things but what he is proposing kust isnt going to fly
 
One other very important thing to point out. When government enters and takes control of any aspect of your life, it doesnt leave! People talk all the time about oppression? Well there you go. They will enslave you from birth til death. Thats the land of the free? Not if i have anything to do about it
 
GaWx said:
The Dow ended up nearly 800 down, a bad day especially with the announced 50 -- rate cut. However, it is still 1,200 points above the Friday intraday low. Also, maybe much of this fall today was fueled by folks taking profits from the 2,000 point bounce.
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bingo, day traders manipulating the market. The big boys find ways to make money in any market condition. I expect more losses over the next month or two.
 
GaWx said:
The Dow ended up nearly 800 down, a bad day especially with the announced 50 -- rate cut. However, it is still 1,200 points above the Friday intraday low. Also, maybe much of this fall today was fueled by folks taking profits from the 2,000 point bounce.
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Yeah a partial dead cat bounce I guess, the real test will be tomorrow have we bottomed out or not.....
 
The problem with the government giving things away is that there are always strings attached and it inevitably leads to a loss of some freedoms. Also remember they don't have any money except for what they confiscate from us. In general I have found that people on the left (although there are exceptions as there is for any label) are very very generous..... with other peoples money, not their own.
 
Brent said:
Big win for Biden in NC Sanders way outspent him there

He may be coming back for real
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This one was easy. Bernie will come in later where you have overwhelming numbers of people who live in cardboard boxes. Its interesting to see the date on how many people made up their minds since the weekend
 
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