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Sandbar said:
I can't even begin to tell you how many bring up the P grabbing incident still to this day. Like the poster above said, that is so petty and miniscule that it shouldn't even warrant conversation. I was not a Barack Obama fan. Most of the guys I served with did not like him but we respected him as the CIC and if/when we judged him we did so on the merit of his policy. If people would stop looking at Twitter, Facebook and any other media site hell bent on destroying him you would find that our "Country" is running on 8 cylinders. The division and negativity you see is not to be placed on Trumps shoulders. It's on every American that lives in this Country's shoulders that allows themselves to be trapped into it by those that have made it their mission to shame the half of America that voted for him and will do it again next November based on the merit of his accomplishments
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Downplaying Trump's personality type is not a good idea. If he is prone to that behavior it's not a good example of a leader. Also Trump will win if not impeached because the other candidates are garbage as well. You can put a poll out there with a rotting fish and a bag of dirty diapers that won the last poll and the diapers will win again. Also if people stopped looking at social media I'm sure Trump would lose his base and the stretch to the extreme side of parties would go down. Really in this day and age it's up to you to get information from the source and not rely on social media for the exact truth. Also keep an open mind to find out what the truth really is but don't get locked in a conspiracy theory.
 
Downeastnc said:
Trump brings it all on himself sorry, no one makes him be a ass to people, his actions on twitter and at rallies 100% reflect on him, but more importantly in reflects on the country and its people. he should rise above it all and act according to the office he holds period, but he fails at that miserably......Trump is a petty petulant spoiled thin skinned man child so instead of the high road we get the twitter rants, the president of the USA literally insults fellow Americans in his official capacity as president of the USA there is none zero zilch excuse for that.

Its not the MSM fault that there is division and negativity, Trump is the most divisive president we ever had and that's saying something considering who was before him.....Trump is not being unfairly portrayed in the media.....
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Leadership comes in all forms. That's 20+ years of hard ass military service where I have been under the command of some people who would make your skin crawl. I get that you want Mr. Rodgers up there, that it doesn't have to be this way but I'm gonna tell you something. I have witnessed the GOP stand by and take the left's crap for two decades. We finally have a raw leader who instead of taking it like a pansy, punches back twice as hard. The John McCain's and Mitt Romney's are done for. He will serve a second term and while you will hate it and be glad when he is gone, you will secretly be thankful down the road that he taught conservatives how to fight back politically. Maybe not the way he does it but the days of standing by watching the moonbats have their way are over!
 
Sandbar said:
Leadership comes in all forms. That's 20+ years of hard ass military service where I have been under the command of some people who would make your skin crawl. I get that you want Mr. Rodgers up there, that it doesn't have to be this way but I'm gonna tell you something. I have witnessed the GOP stand by and take the left's crap for two decades. We finally have a raw leader who instead of taking it like a pansy, punches back twice as hard. The John McCain's and Mitt Romney's are done for. He will serve a second term and while you will hate it and be glad when he is gone, you will secretly be thankful down the road that he taught conservatives how to fight back politically. Maybe not the way he does it but the days of standing by watching the moonbats have their way are over!
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Trump isn't even a true conservative. He's an opportunist with few real principles other than power, money, and himself.
 
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GaWx said:
Some of the same folks who say this is petty criticized Obama for putting his friggin feet on the desk in the Oval Ofice. SMH. Politics these days more than ever is full of hypocrisy/tribalism. Bring on a new center right party, please!
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He was the President then but we still didn't treat him like Trump is being treated right? No balloons or murder depictions etc. I don't think anybody would care if he propped his foot on the desk before he was president...Hey...if he was for this country and knocking it out of the park then we would probably have overlooked that anyway. LOL. Just the opposite though, committing crimes of treason against this country, still involved in the cover up...Not for much longer though..
 
Downeastnc said:
Trump brings it all on himself sorry, no one makes him be a ass to people, his actions on twitter and at rallies 100% reflect on him, but more importantly in reflects on the country and its people. he should rise above it all and act according to the office he holds period, but he fails at that miserably......Trump is a petty petulant spoiled thin skinned man child so instead of the high road we get the twitter rants, the president of the USA literally insults fellow Americans in his official capacity as president of the USA there is none zero zilch excuse for that.

Its not the MSM fault that there is division and negativity, Trump is the most divisive president we ever had and that's saying something considering who was before him.....Trump is not being unfairly portrayed in the media.....
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He can insult the people who are trying to bring him down and deep state players all he wants at this point. We don't care. Everything he does is for a reason. Even typos actually. Moves and countermoves. Purpose is to drain the swamp and it's happening no matter if one wants to not see. Eventually even the media will see and have to stop this narrative. It's already happening a bit. He totally trolls the deep state and msm. It's just so much bigger than what people see. Check out the footage of him and special needs people at the IAC National Summit thing. Give a little please. The "man child" is kickin butt for we the people. He would have never accomplished what he has if he were petty petulant spoiled thin skinned. It's just ridiculous to think that. But to each his on..for now.
 
GaWx said:
Trump isn't even a true conservative. He's an opportunist with few real principles other than power, money, and himself.
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Never said he was a true conservative, if such a thing even exist. All the things you labeled him as....sure I'll go along with that but I like to hitch my boat to successful people and rise. What you see with his base is the ability to take our emotions out of the equation. Its refreshing to have somebody call out fake ---- for what it is. Its called reality!
 
Wildboutsnow said:
He can insult the people who are trying to bring him down and deep state players all he wants at this point. We don't care. Everything he does is for a reason. Even typos actually. Moves and countermoves. Purpose is to drain the swamp and it's happening no matter if one wants to not see. Eventually even the media will see and have to stop this narrative. It's already happening a bit. He totally trolls the deep state and msm. It's just so much bigger than what people see. Check out the footage of him and special needs people at the IAC National Summit thing. Give a little please. The "man child" is kickin butt for we the people. He would have never accomplished what he has if he were petty petulant spoiled thin skinned. It's just ridiculous to think that. But to each his on..for now.
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And when he decides to insult a 16 year old girl who isn't even from this country? Where does that fit in?
 
Sandbar said:
Never said he was a true conservative, if such a thing even exist. All the things you labeled him as....sure I'll go along with that but I like to hitch my boat to successful people and rise. What you see with his base is the ability to take our emotions out of the equation. Its refreshing to have somebody call out fake poop for what it is. Its called reality!
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The irony is that he produces more fake poop than he calls out. He's a mass producer of fake poop.
Regardless, like it or not, the chances of him getting reelected are steadily increasing. I'm giving him a 75% chance as of now.
 
GaWx said:
Regardless, like it or not, the chances of him getting reelected are steadily increasing. I'm giving him a 75% chance as of now.
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As I said, bag of diapers that won once will beat the rotten fish at the polls. I wonder how long it'll be before we get something that wasn't pulled from the bottom of the lake.
 
GaWx said:
The irony is that he produces more fake poop than he calls out. He's a mass producer of fake poop.
Regardless, like it or not, the chances of him getting reelected are steadily increasing. I'm giving him a 75% chance as of now.
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With what we saw in Britain, I really wouldn't be surprised.
 
Sandbar said:
Yes! Brits rejected socialism yesterday and that's huge
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I think Brits rejected a miserable candidate that was just not likable. Similar to 2016, as much as I hate Trump, he did what Hillary couldn't: make himself stand out. "Make America Great Again" resounded with many more Americans than the line "I'm With Her"; Trump made his campaign about America and Hillary made hers about herself and the "coastal elites". Though we can debate all day and night about whether or not Trump really *is* for America and if Hillary really *was* for the status quo, he won, which meant his campaign worked. He knows how to rile up his base. Through his incoherent ramblings, the few things he can articulate well are ideas that many Americans find more important than any stupid thing he does or says.
Democrats have to do more than just define themselves as "the resistance" or "the candidate to take on Trump". They need to capture the soul and collective mind of America and this is NOT done by going to the extreme. This concept may have worked for the conservatives, but it won't work for Dems. Sadly, within the Democrats themselves, there is fighting over "who is the most 'woke' candidate", which brings me to my final point: Republicans play to win. Democrats play to see who's the most "moral", and therefore I can't see them winning.
 
Wildboutsnow said:
Trump is treating her that way because she's a plant, a pawn and not real. Pawn to push a narrative. Set him up to look bad if he defends but he doesn't care at this point in the game. He's right too after everything that has been done to him and America. Not the first time they have used kids or pretend kids. In fact, I can't remember where I saw it or even what it was about, but a kid they used in some other false thing looked JUST like her. Too many coincidences, so much sketchy stuff when one starts looking. So many lies, deceptions and crimes.
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No one needs to “set him up to look bad”. That moron does enough of that by opening his big mouth. He’s made a mockery of the Presidency. More so than Nixon ever could have. He’s unintelligent, a boor, crass, narcissistic, infantile, a liar, a cheat (taxes and wives), a gasbag, self-important, and a joke of a world leader. We did this because the other major party choice was another liar and cheat. I’m not sure who the lesser of two evils would have been. The man was a lifelong Democrat until he saw an opening to exploit as a “Republican”. The man is a RINO. He’s neither D or R. He’s self serving.
 
Wildboutsnow said:
To still be worrying about the p comment is interesting. For one thing, it's so minuscule in the big picture. It's the past and nobody cares. They don't care because of logical thinking. I hear old women say things worse (not even kidding..nasty mouths) and it's not like he continues to say such things. Not good and immoral but people are very immoral these days. The left "anything goes free speechers" actually work hard to allow one more curse word to be added to what can be said on TV. If it's not allowed to say GD in certain time slots, then by God they want it to be said. Nutty when ya think about it for fighting for such a thing. The outrage of some of these people by the p word is so hypocritical. Just like it's so hypocritical about gun control regarding Hollywood. Here's where the logical thinking comes in to play.... In Trump's life before politics, he's a billionaire in a fantasy superstar life...those women would pay HIM to grabem'. The whole thing was blown up by the media and it worked..The same media is still working lock step to shut him down from fear. Some people are still talking about it..SMH. Maybe your church friends are smart, forgiving and Christian like to not dwell on the past. They may also have the ability to weigh the good of a country as a whole to one "man talk" comment by Donald Trump of all people. Critical thinking and soooo not anything of importance compared to what is really happening and his purpose for being in this position. Also too, anybody who says they are Christian or follows God, nobody should keep hammering someones past transgressions in their face. How would that ever make anyone want to be in church etc?? We would not do that to each other so we should not do it to him if he does not continue to say things like that.
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Because in your eyes “Screw everyone’s First Amendment Rights” to free speech and forget about the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment as well.

Take a college level civics class, please. Read up on Constitutional Law.
 
Sandbar said:
Leadership comes in all forms. That's 20+ years of hard ass military service where I have been under the command of some people who would make your skin crawl. I get that you want Mr. Rodgers up there, that it doesn't have to be this way but I'm gonna tell you something. I have witnessed the GOP stand by and take the left's crap for two decades. We finally have a raw leader who instead of taking it like a pansy, punches back twice as hard. The John McCain's and Mitt Romney's are done for. He will serve a second term and while you will hate it and be glad when he is gone, you will secretly be thankful down the road that he taught conservatives how to fight back politically. Maybe not the way he does it but the days of standing by watching the moonbats have their way are over!
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This post is soaked in irony. Someone with 20 yrs of military service (BTW.. thank you for serving) is exalting and praising a man who dodged military service himself and has called out and insulted military heroes who spent years being tortured in concentration camps while DT got his rich daddy to pay off a doctor to write a fake diagnosis of bone spurs to get the real pansy in the room out of serving his country. The rich elite have always bought and conned their way through life and DT is probably the best fake American we've ever seen.
 
ForsythSnow said:
And when he decides to insult a 16 year old girl who isn't even from this country? Where does that fit in?
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She's not real and a fake pawn. We all know it so what's with the hysteria...People get so upset about these things all the while Trump is doing something great that people are not paying attention to. He's been doing this this entire time. I would think at some point people would quit letting him get to them. It is not a conspiracy theory about how all of this take down happened and how all of this nightmare started. The nightmare this country is in. It's the important story here not this day to day Trump behavior stuff. It is and will be so much more concerning than Trump being mean. People will be hearing about Admiral Rogers more in the future...It's real. Horrowitz report just the tip of the iceberg. They thought they could get away with it...crimes, spying, blackmail, threats and control of who shall be president and other narrative controls. It's amazing watching this all unfold. The truth is ugly for this country...
 
tramadoc said:
No one needs to “set him up to look bad”. That moron does enough of that by opening his big mouth. He’s made a mockery of the Presidency. More so than Nixon ever could have. He’s unintelligent, a boor, crass, narcissistic, infantile, a liar, a cheat (taxes and wives), a gasbag, self-important, and a joke of a world leader. We did this because the other major party choice was another liar and cheat. I’m not sure who the lesser of two evils would have been. The man was a lifelong Democrat until he saw an opening to exploit as a “Republican”. The man is a RINO. He’s neither D or R. He’s self serving.
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Yeah he's serving alright....serving up some up some swamp draining and exposing the corrupt machine. It's happening. Who cares if he was a democrat. It is what he is doing not what party he's with. If he had happened to run as a democrat, I would have voted for him still...although that would have been real interesting knowing all that is really going on...hmmmm
 
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