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crecre9 said:
Um, the previous president? Compare Obama and Trump speaking and well....there is no comparison.
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A lot of families that struggled during the Obama years. Im sure it made them feel a lot better knowing he gave great speeches. Obama was awesome at playing President. Not very good at actually being President but organizing communities for a living isnt the best occupation for running the country
 
A lot of families are struggling now and don't need their "leaders" antagonizing them. Sounds like you agree with me though, which makes me wonder why you said the comment in the first place.
 
Nunes had several calls with Parnas as indicated by phone records....Nunes should be made to step away from the impeachment process as he is likely going to be implicated as one of the people actually involved in setting this entire thing up. The timing of the calls matches up with Parnas's claim he organized a trip to the Ukraine for Nunes with the goal of getting the Ukraine to go after Biden....I am sure Nunes did not call the Ukrainian fixer/money man to exchange recipes.....also apparently Parnas has tapes of calls he had with Giuliani, Trump etc...which he is or will turn over to the House....
 
crecre9 said:
A lot of families are struggling now and don't need their "leaders" antagonizing them. Sounds like you agree with me though, which makes me wonder why you said the comment in the first place.
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How exactly are these folks being antagonized? If most people just shut off their access to the BS being fed them they would have little to nothing to complaign about. If you are struggling in this economy you were struggling 4 years ago, 8 years ago and you will more than likely be struggling 8 years from now. Thats just reality. Its unfortunate but the truth. If you folks would just enjoy the prosperity we are in and stop making yourself miserable blaming Trump your strees level would certainly decrease
 
Downeastnc said:
Nunes had several calls with Parnas as indicated by phone records....Nunes should be made to step away from the impeachment process as he is likely going to be implicated as one of the people actually involved in setting this entire thing up. The timing of the calls matches up with Parnas's claim he organized a trip to the Ukraine for Nunes with the goal of getting the Ukraine to go after Biden....I am sure Nunes did not call the Ukrainian fixer/money man to exchange recipes.....also apparently Parnas has tapes of calls he had with Giuliani, Trump etc...which he is or will turn over to the House....
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If only the liberal media put as much effort in uncovering the actual criminals in all of this........
 
Sandbar said:
How exactly are these folks being antagonized? If most people just shut off their access to the BS being fed them they would have little to nothing to complaign about. If you are struggling in this economy you were struggling 4 years ago, 8 years ago and you will more than likely be struggling 8 years from now. Thats just reality. Its unfortunate but the truth. If you folks would just enjoy the prosperity we are in and stop making yourself miserable blaming Trump your strees level would certainly decrease
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So in you're opinion, people who are struggling economically right always have be and always will be? Just what is it you are trying to say? I'm sure the folks who can't afford to put food on the table or a roof over their kid's heads are really going to "enjoy the prosperity." Also, who is "you folks?"
 
crecre9 said:
So in you're opinion, people who are struggling economically right always have be and always will be? Just what is it you are trying to say? I'm sure the folks who can't afford to put food on the table or a roof over their kid's heads are really going to "enjoy the prosperity." Also, who is "you folks?"
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Sorry but I am just being realistic with you. Im not trying to imply that struggling people can't move up the economic ladder (They can) but if you are still struggling in an economic boom of this magnitude what is going to change with a change in the white house? Socialism? Why is it that people who struggle for decades only voice their displeasures publically when a Republican is in charge? Is it just easier to struggle if a Democrat is in power? "You folks" are the ones that can't seem to grasp that the economy we are in (The Trump Economy) is breaking records and you are trying your best to insure he isn't re-elected because his personal behavior causes your emotions to unravel
 
Flurry said:
Sandbar...You're talking to some brick walls on here...I feel your pain, too
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I agree but I'm sure some of them consider me a brick wall too! I like to at least here other people's side of it so I can attempt to gain some understanding
 
Democrats are soliciting staged responses from cherry picked “constitutional experts” on live television.. this, in itself, is a disservice to democracy. All in an effort to sway the opinion of the public which does not support the impeachment of 45.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Democrats are soliciting staged responses from cherry picked “constitutional experts” on live television.. this, in itself, is a disservice to democracy. All in an effort to sway the opinion of the public which does not support the impeachment of 45.
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Your opinion?
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Democrats are soliciting staged responses from cherry picked “constitutional experts” on live television.. this, in itself, is a disservice to democracy. All in an effort to sway the opinion of the public which does not support the impeachment of 45.
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Dont worry about them. They got some from the extremely liberal university of Chapel Hill. Opinions dont matter in a case of impeachment. The senate will shut this down dead on arrival. Schiff and Pelosi both lied on record and that will be what the senate bases its decision on. What is said is whats important, not factless based opinions on it.
 
Rosie said:
Your opinion?
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This is just another partisan battle. It’s not about the constitution. It’s another smear campaign because the first 10 didn’t seem to work out. The left wants the right on the defense going into the November election. They know impeachment is off the table. They are tar and feathering 45 and have been since 2016. You know, the people would be more inclined to listen to the case against Trump and Ukraine If weren’t preceded by umpteen other attempts to overthrow DJT from office.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
This is just another partisan battle. It’s not about the constitution. It’s another smear campaign because the first 10 didn’t seem to work out. The left wants the right on the defense going into the November election. They know impeachment is off the table. They are tar and feathering 45 and have been since 2016. You know, the people would be more inclined to listen to the case against Trump and Ukraine If weren’t preceded by umpteen other attempts to overthrow DJT from office.
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A case of the "cry wolf"
 
Avalanche said:
Dont worry about them. They got some from the extremely liberal university of Chapel Hill. Opinions dont matter in a case of impeachment. The senate will shut this down dead on arrival. Schiff and Pelosi both lied on record and that will be what the senate bases its decision on. What is said is whats important, not factless based opinions on it.
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Do nothing Mitch and his senate.
 
I see nothing wrong with investigating Ukraine. In fact they should double down it. Only problem is they are investigating the wrong person for the wrong crime.......It's a last ditch effort because winning the actual 2020 election based on ideas is a no go.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Democrats are soliciting staged responses from cherry picked “constitutional experts” on live television.. this, in itself, is a disservice to democracy. All in an effort to sway the opinion of the public which does not support the impeachment of 45.
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Have you researched Turley and his words during the Clinton impeachment? He is no better a witness than the democrat experts. He has flip flopped a full 180. He is a hypocrite.
 
Sandbar said:
I see nothing wrong with investigating Ukraine. In fact they should double down it. Only problem is they are investigating the wrong person for the wrong crime.......It's a last ditch effort because winning the actual 2020 election based on ideas is a no go.
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This was not about investigating Ukraine it was about investigating the Biden's who according the the Ukrainians didnt do anything to even be investigated for. Trump and Rudy got played by Firtash/Shokin/Lutsenko etc....they were fed a bunch of promises that they could make Ukraine seem like the bad guy in 2016, Trump knows the score on Russian influence heck he welcomes it and he knows they are helping him again and he is desperate to make it seem like the whole Russian meddling thing was a Dem lie etc.

Whether you like it or not, whether you face the truth of the issue or not, Trump is and was using his office as President of the USA to force/extort/bribe a foreign government to go after his political rivals and DIRECTLY interfere with the US presidential election....that is what actually happened......its not conjecture, its not wishful thinking on the Dems part, it is exactly what Trump did, now you can not give a crap that's fine and there are tons of Trumpers out there that dont care he did it, hell they applaud it, but every one of those people are also applauding taking a big fat dump on the Constitution.
 
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