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Political Thread: The Sequel

severestorm said:
If they are out, they are out like evicting a squatter.
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As mentioned, they will return due to lack of resources. You cannot realistically deal with such a problem without resolving what is causing them to come here in the first place. It's illogical to think removing a criminal will keep them out when the gangs operate here for a reason. You can get them out three ways, make America go to the toilet so far their home country becomes more appealing, or make their home nation more appealing to stay in through diplomatic means, or making the distance so long that they must go that it isn't worth it anymore.
 
ForsythSnow said:
As mentioned, they will return due to lack of resources. You cannot realistically deal with such a problem without resolving what is causing them to come here in the first place. It's illogical to think removing a criminal will keep them out when the gangs operate here for a reason. You can get them out three ways, make America go to the toilet so far their home country becomes more appealing, or make their home nation more appealing to stay in through diplomatic means, or making the distance so long that they must go that it isn't worth it anymore.
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Build the wall, increase security, evict the squatters. 1 less of the road is better than none.
 
severestorm said:
Build the wall, increase security, evict the squatters. 1 less of the road is better than none.
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Spend trillions on a piece of infrastructure that does not add to our economy at all, stops less than 10% of the problem realistically, and waste time and resources dragging people back to their home country only for them to be at your doorstep 2 months later. We can and should do better to secure our nation. We have larger problems we should put that money towards instead and use cheaper, more effective solutions.
 
ForsythSnow said:
Spend trillions on a piece of infrastructure that does not add to our economy at all, stops less than 10% of the problem realistically, and waste time and resources dragging people back to their home country only for them to be at your doorstep 2 months later. We can and should do better to secure our nation. We have larger problems we should put that money towards instead and use cheaper, more effective solutions.
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What's the solution? sit on our hands and have our country taken over by gangs? no thanks
 
severestorm said:
if only there was a federal government keeping track of the "illegals"
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How do you suppose they do so? Put cameras everywhere in public and use facial identification to keep track of everyone and every move they make. Moves like that put you closer to how the CCP tracks people in China. It’s not just a simple answer of “let’s track all of them”
 
ForsythSnow said:
A waste of time and resources and only makes the problem worse. It's just putting the snail back a few inches. It will return and keep coming back. Those more aggressive ones will come back more violent knowing how to get around getting caught each time they're removed. Working with the governments of some of the nations where possible, and working with MX and not against them may help too.
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Well I guess the California way of not prosecuting for petty offenses is the right course of action
 
Ethan80963 said:
How do you suppose they do so? Put cameras everywhere in public and use facial identification to keep track of everyone and every move they make. Moves like that put you closer to how the CCP tracks people in China. It’s not just a simple answer of “let’s track all of them”
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that should be happening but it's not.
 
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