Indeed, the 0Z Euro is also warmer. I promise the readers that @Myfrotho704_ and I are not in cahoots as we're on opposite sides of the spectrum as far as what we want. We're just reporting the model facts by being professional messengers. We tell it like it is. Of course, the models may be off. We make no claim as to the accuracy of any model. I, of course, hope they're very wrong. However, I fear they may be right this time.