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March 2024 Discussion

Snowlover87 said:
90 isnt bad if the humidity is tolerable.
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It is humid nearly the entire summer here. We might be able to sneak a few days during the 5 month stretch of lower dews if we can get some east coast troughs or CAD from time to time but 95% of the summer is DP's between upper 60's to mid 70's.
 
Snowlover87 said:
Oh please. Summers in Easley are much nicer than Columbia.
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That is true, Columbia is unbearable in my book. Easley isn't bad by South Carolina standards, but is is still way too hot and humid for me. You really need to be above 3000ft to have a tolerable summer around here, and even then there's still too much humidity and bugs, but at least you can get some 50s at night. Columbia towards the coast is a different level though.
 
Chazwin said:
I definitely agree with this. My wife and I went on a trip to Vegas a few years ago and when we walked out of the airport it was 93 degrees and actually felt pleasant. It helps that the dewpoint was in the 30s
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I always hear people say this but I have been in the West many times in the summer and anything over 90 or 95 is still miserable. Many places out there are well over 100 and that is just miserable to me. I'll actually take 88-92 and humid over 100 -115 everyday.
 
Iceagewhereartthou said:
I always hear people say this but I have been in the West many times in the summer and anything over 90 or 95 is still miserable. Many places out there are well over 100 and that is just miserable to me. I'll actually take 88-92 and humid over 100 -115 everyday.
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When we went it was in late October so the sun angle is not nearly as high in the summer. I’ve never been there in June or July but o can imagine that 115 under a high sun beating down on you is going to be miserable even without humidity.
 
Iceagewhereartthou said:
The older I get the less I can tolerate the heat. If it weren't for the stuffiness, the overbearing humidity, the constant sweating, the endless bugs, the allergies, the weeds, the vines, the stretching of all this earlier and later in the year, and inability for even nights to cool off I wouldn't mind the summer! Honestly if I could, I would just put Sept -March weather on repeat. Sept is plenty of heat for me and I know it's on the way out and the days are getting shorter.
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I used to ride dirt bikes a LOT when I was younger. I could ride for hours in 95 degree heat and not think about it. I'd have a heat stroke if I tried today.
 
SD said:
Some of you guys might need to look into moving
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Here is my pitch to everyone here that you should move to Blacksburg, VA. Above is the average temperatures in the summer months. Warm but not too hot with cool mornings. On top of that we average 2 feet of snow and even in crappy winters you can get accumulating snow (3.5 this winter). Best thing is that you don't have to go that far north from SC and NC to get there.
 
SD said:
Some of you guys might need to look into moving
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Trust me, Im not someone who wants to live somewhere I need an Igloo year round but dang, would like a few cold snaps to like -5 and a few decent snows for an avg of that 12-16" per season range. Then be warm enough to get drunk doing yard work and fall over in the pool but not so Hot I HAVE to go to the pool to stay alive.
 
SD said:
Some of you guys might need to look into moving
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Lmao I kind of did already... Living in Tulsa I mean I know our summers can still be ugly but like even as bad as the last two winters have been its still snowed a couple times

Also the Arctic cold is no joke I don't really think I want to live where it's much colder just because it does get old when it's not snowing to me
 
ILMRoss said:
am i the only one who enjoys summer for what it is lmao
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In the south east it’s months of humidity, bugs and sweating. Some like summer but most here like winter better I’d think. I love the cold for some reason even without snow. Fall is literally my favorite because I know I’ve got months of no sweating and no bugs and hopefully some snow!
 
iGRXY said:
Summer in the south is garbage unless you're sitting on a beach with a sea breeze. When mid 80's with dews in the mid 60's are considered relief or a "cooler" summer, you know it's trash. Perfect summer weather if possible is 65-70 around here with no humidity and 75-80 in you're on the beach.
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Basically San Diego! They have 4 different climates all within a few hours of each other. You can go surfing, then snow boarding in the mountains and finally go east to the desert and ride motorcycles in the sand dunes to finish the day off.
 
Brent said:
Lmao I kind of did already... Living in Tulsa I mean I know our summers can still be ugly but like even as bad as the last two winters have been its still snowed a couple times

Also the Arctic cold is no joke I don't really think I want to live where it's much colder just because it does get old when it's not snowing to me
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Cleveland is the place. It snows a good amount but melts as they do get warm ups throughout the winter. It’s cold but nothing like Chicago , Iowa or Minnesota
 
olhausen said:
In the south east it’s months of humidity, bugs and sweating. Some like summer but most here like winter better I’d think. I love the cold for some reason even without snow. Fall is literally my favorite because I know I’ve got months of no sweating and no bugs and hopefully some snow!
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Cold is fine but I don't like cold and wind. I like cold with calm winds.
 
Am I the only one who wants to spend just one winter in Buffalo to be guaranteed snow and lake effect? In NC we can have cool winters, mild winters, warm winters and occasionally a cold winter but summer is only hot summer, hotter summer, oppressive summer, and God I am going to melt summer
 
Snowlover87 said:
Cold is fine but I don't like cold and wind. I like cold with calm winds.
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Yup even here in Colorado the last few days it was all about the wind. We had a moment at the national park where one second it was like the January cold(I mean it was absolutely horrible) and the next it wasn't even cold at all because of the wind
 
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GoDuke said:
I’ll be down that way in late April. Going to Key west for a few days. Can’t wait!! That whole drive from Miami through the Keys is beautiful!
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The smell far outweighs the beauty. That's the most disgusting drive I've ever been on.
 
deltadog03 said:
The WIND is very under-rated in the inter-mountain west. When I lived in WY the winds would easy get to 60+ at times. (mostly gusts but that crap was crazy). They were mostly out of the SW and down sloping as well.
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Yeah the other thing I noticed in the national park in Colorado was some areas were super windy and some were like nah it wasn't cold at all 🤣
 
GoDuke said:
I’ll be down that way in late April. Going to Key west for a few days. Can’t wait!! That whole drive from Miami through the Keys is beautiful!
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made that surprisingly long drive once with my mom 20yrs ago... but flew back to MIA from Key West. I swear that drive was 7hrs down from Aventura!! Lol beautiful tho
 
Iceagewhereartthou said:
That is true, Columbia is unbearable in my book. Easley isn't bad by South Carolina standards, but is is still way too hot and humid for me. You really need to be above 3000ft to have a tolerable summer around here, and even then there's still too much humidity and bugs, but at least you can get some 50s at night. Columbia towards the coast is a different level though.
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Columbia is the center of hell itself in the summer. Between Concord and Columbia its fascinating how different the microclimates are in the 95 miles as the crow flies!!
 
Iceagewhereartthou said:
The older I get the less I can tolerate the heat. If it weren't for the stuffiness, the overbearing humidity, the constant sweating, the endless bugs, the allergies, the weeds, the vines, the stretching of all this earlier and later in the year, and inability for even nights to cool off I wouldn't mind the summer! Honestly if I could, I would just put Sept -March weather on repeat. Sept is plenty of heat for me and I know it's on the way out and the days are getting shorter.
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It's almost eerie how I feel you 10000% on every bit of this post!
 
SnowQueen said:
Columbia is the center of hell itself in the summer. Between Concord and Columbia its fascinating how different the microclimates are in the 95 miles as the crow flies!!
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Charlotte proper is very bad and now has the climate that Columbia SC had 20 years ago and central mid Virginia has the climate Charlotte used to have. The only way to escape it is to get above 3500’ level above the altitude of Boone and Asheville in Western NC
 
NCHighCountryWX said:
Charlotte proper is very bad and now has the climate that Columbia SC had 20 years ago and central mid Virginia has the climate Charlotte used to have. The only way to escape it is to get above 3500’ level above the altitude of Boone and Asheville in Western NC
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Your post made me want to see how bad it was in comparison to days past. So, I took a look At Charlotte Douglas international airport temperatures on “weather underground” archives . I went backward to 1949, at every 5 years, for the month of January. ( I figure this should be enough data to see a major change ) 75years to see the numbers for myself. Well this is what I found

The data was complete in regard to monthly high temps and monthly avg temps, unfortunately monthly low temps were often missing. I could have taken the time to do the math but I think you can get the message from the monthly average temp.

1) The warmest Jan average temp 1949 at 49.79 followed by 1999 at 46.6 then 2019 at 44.41

2) 2014 2019 and 2024 were almost identical at just above 44 degrees on average the warmest 3 consecutive selections

3) the 3 avg coldest consecutive was 1974,1979 and 1984 at daily avg temp of 35.48 (The height of industrial pollution in America)

4) the oldest 3 , 1949,1954 and 1959 averaged 43.87 degrees

5) the average of the 15 selected dates from 1949 thru 2024 was 43.41 degrees

6)The last 3 selected 2014,2019, and 2024 were the were 44.32 degrees, which is .91 degrees warmer.

My Conclusion seems to indicate slightly warmer temperature, but not significant enough to cause major change in climate. I am not a pro, but that’s what the numbers look like to me.
 
deltadog03 said:
The WIND is very under-rated in the inter-mountain west. When I lived in WY the winds would easy get to 60+ at times. (mostly gusts but that crap was crazy). They were mostly out of the SW and down sloping as well.
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Definitely. I remember in South Dakota a few years back it was so windy! Temperatures were mild enough (60s for highs), but with the ripping wind it actually felt somewhat chilly.
 
Iowa also! Winds are crazy! You can get 40-50 mph gusts very easily!
 
It's actually impressive that this first week of March pattern might be a complete 180 from what most expected.


That wedge the weekend of the 2nd could really ugly things up in the traditional areas
 
Interesting graphic I found on Webber’s website. It does a good job of showing how some of the bigger NC storms actually tend to occur in February - Early March as opposed to January. Even though January typically averages more snowfall overall, the more juiced up storms tend to happen later in the winter.

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SD said:
It's actually impressive that this first week of March pattern might be a complete 180 from what most expected.


That wedge the weekend of the 2nd could really ugly things up in the traditional areas
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Yeah I can’t say that I’m surprised. You can see how the STJ is really starting to kick back up next week. Even the torch we’re getting next week only looks like it will be 3 days before a cool off and then we’ll probably be CAD rained to death.
 
Chazwin said:
Yeah I can’t say that I’m surprised. You can see how the STJ is really starting to kick back up next week. Even the torch we’re getting next week only looks like it will be 3 days before a cool off and then we’ll probably be CAD rained to death.
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There are ways we could screw up next weeks warm up. I doubt it but it's but far off
 
Watch the mjo over the next week or so. More IO convection and forcing may lead to a blockier north Atlantic, more forcing in the MC and its more of a SER/WC or central us trough
 
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