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July Surprise!

That sucks. That mcv could be timed well though

Yeah if it could come thru peak heating like the NAM 12km shows on Saturday then its game on for even a MCS, needa see how the MCS tomorrow night evolves in the Central plains 25F8748C-8334-4177-82C6-FC10DD1EE80B.png1CD0AE27-00F4-4933-9053-BF8CAA7FEEAB.png79E0BC63-5027-4DDD-AC6E-747DCFB96DD7.png
 
Flying out to Vegas tomorrow, and the target has been acquired for Sunday's side trip...Death Valley. My GF suggested it, knowing I'm a bit of weather buff. 107 is the hottest I have ever experienced outdoors, so the extra 20 degrees is gonna be something else lol. ?☀?View attachment 43905

My first trip to Vegas was kind of like that... At least it's a dry heat ?
 
Could Chicago hit 100 in the 7 to 10 days ? It's possible if the Euro is right. Could even hit 105, with temps 115-120 in the plains. I have a feeling this is going to go down as the hottest July on record for many cities across the country.
 
Yeah summer sucks, I am already over the heat and humidity.....the 06Z GFS is a horror show for the MA/SE....it was 90 or better IMBY every single day of the run except today which was 89......
I've been ok with it but I don't like looking at the models and see prospects of near 600dm ridges stretching through the OV into the MA. That is a recipe for us to cook.
 
I've been ok with it but I don't like looking at the models and see prospects of near 600dm ridges stretching through the OV into the MA. That is a recipe for us to cook.

Working without AC sucks and years that start out slow are great for me. Looks like its time to pay for that extra month of spring temps.

I'm so ready for some hurricane tracking too.
 
Could Chicago hit 100 in the 7 to 10 days ? It's possible if the Euro is right. Could even hit 105, with temps 115-120 in the plains. I have a feeling this is going to go down as the hottest July on record for many cities across the country.

Latest GFS has them only getting 90 or so with the big heat staying over the lower central mid west.....
 
NWS lowers the POPS on pretty much every update. I have a feeling we are going to entering a drought real soon. This summer sucks. End of story.
 
NWS lowers the POPS on pretty much every update. I have a feeling we are going to entering a drought real soon. This summer sucks. End of story.
Yeah the LP actually tightening up along the coast was the final nail in the rain coffin for folks on the west side. Of course, I'm odd like @NoSnowATL , I'll take dry/hot over this wet stuff all day long
 
NWS lowers the POPS on pretty much every update. I have a feeling we are going to entering a drought real soon. This summer sucks. End of story.
Every summer sucks. Hot, humid and dry. Ever notice how some posters get rain almost everyday and some go 2 weeks without a drop year after year? Thats not coincidence. Need a tropical system to get good rain unless you are one of the lucky few.
 
Every summer sucks. Hot, humid and dry. Ever notice how some posters get rain almost everyday and some go 2 weeks without a drop year after year? Thats not coincidence. Need a tropical system to get good rain unless you are one of the lucky few.

I think we're paying the price for our epic spring. Droughts are going to become the new norm, despite what the outlook says.
 
Every summer sucks. Hot, humid and dry. Ever notice how some posters get rain almost everyday and some go 2 weeks without a drop year after year? Thats not coincidence. Need a tropical system to get good rain unless you are one of the lucky few.

The microclimate is definitely at play here in Wake/Chatham/Harnett.
 
Every summer sucks. Hot, humid and dry. Ever notice how some posters get rain almost everyday and some go 2 weeks without a drop year after year? Thats not coincidence. Need a tropical system to get good rain unless you are one of the lucky few.

I remember when both CLT and Raleigh used to do quite well in the summer months. Yes, we had droughts but we always managed to get some pretty decent storms, every summer. It also doesn't help that modeling has become so awful that it's worrisome. I'm done looking at models. They have been practically useless all year.
 
I miss those days when you used to get moisture pooling along boundaries in the late evenings and get slow moving storms firing up through the late evening with continuous lightning. Guess those days are gone.
 
I remember when both CLT and Raleigh used to do quite well in the summer months. Yes, we had droughts but we always managed to get some pretty decent storms, every summer. It also doesn't help that modeling has become so awful that it's worrisome. I'm done looking at models. They have been practically useless all year.

That may spell big trouble down the road if they miss hurricane landfalls by 100+ miles.
 
I remember when both CLT and Raleigh used to do quite well in the summer months. Yes, we had droughts but we always managed to get some pretty decent storms, every summer. It also doesn't help that modeling has become so awful that it's worrisome. I'm done looking at models. They have been practically useless all year.
I remember growing up in the 80s my dad having to run sprinklers to keep his garden alive. Meanwhile my grandfather 20 miles away never ran one and got rain several times a week. Terrain definitely plays a role in convection. Convection usually fires in the same areas almost always and maybe if others are lucky an outflow will trigger something.
The dry spots usually need better forcing to make it happen. But that's just my observation over 40 years of existence.
 
I miss those days when you used to get moisture pooling along boundaries in the late evenings and get slow moving storms firing up through the late evening with continuous lightning. Guess those days are gone.
Gone just like our days of tracking legit snowstorms if the last two years are a sign of things to come. ?
 
I can’t speak for everywhere but can’t imagine it to be much different . Rdu has always had a slight summer precip maximum , meaning our wettest season is summer! Last 30 years not only have summers gotten hotter but they have gotten a lot wetter here , most notably in July/ August . I don’t know why everyone seems to think we are drying out. The stats don’t back you up, truth is exact opposite . Our summer precip max is even higher .
 
Yeah the LP actually tightening up along the coast was the final nail in the rain coffin for folks on the west side. Of course, I'm odd like @NoSnowATL , I'll take dry/hot over this wet stuff all day long
It’s not summer without a drought and heat. We get plenty of 80s with clouds and some rain in the fall and winter.
 
Yeah, we've had some wet summers as of late:

Average June-August rainfall at RDU is 13.49"

2019 - 14.94"
2018 - 17.38"
2017 - 10.79"
2016 - 17.14"
2015 - 15.48"

Edited to include total rainfall for my work's weather station in Moncure over same timeframe:

2019 - 19.77"
2018 - 18.66"
2017 - 8.35"
2016 - 18.34"
2015 - 14.89"

Five-year totals also quite a bit above average.

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I can’t speak for everywhere but can’t imagine it to be much different . Rdu has always had a slight summer precip maximum , meaning our wettest season is summer! Last 30 years not only have summers gotten hotter but they have gotten a lot wetter here , most notably in July/ August . I don’t know why everyone seems to think we are drying out. The stats don’t back you up, truth is exact opposite . Our summer precip max is even higher .
Id have to go back through my weather history on my station and confirm but right off the top of my head and unless something changes drastically mby is on pace for 4 of 5 to be normal or below based off of RDUs numbers, if I blend Fay/RDU it's likely worse. I will always be a proponent of more official obs stations, using single sparse points during convective season poorly represents the whole and so far over the last 14-20 days that's obvious with some places seeing 4+ inches while others like myself seeing .25 or less. Again without confirmation and from memory I believe it was summer 2015 or 16 where the rdu airport was way AN yet JJA imby ended up with 4 inches total with 2 months less than 1 inch. There really has seemed to be a shift west over the last decade of the piedmont trough favoring areas along and west of the US1 corridor with the typical sea breeze affecting 95 and east and the sandhills convection getting Cumberland, moore, hoke, scotland areas leaving a sliver between 95 and 1 in the meh zone. Ive been trying to pull some of the old station and mesonet data to get a better average for my location and I think the station in Dunn averages 6-7 for the summer months over the past 30 years
 
Yeah, we've had some wet summers as of late:

Average June-August rainfall at RDU is 13.49"

2019 - 14.94"
2018 - 17.38"
2017 - 10.79"
2016 - 17.14"
2015 - 15.48"

Five-year totals also quite a bit above average.

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2018.. what a summer had 30 inches of rain between JJA here. Think i finished the year around 80
 
Man, I hope I can get a break from all these storms I've had here lately. I can't take that much more excitement.
 
I miss those days when you used to get moisture pooling along boundaries in the late evenings and get slow moving storms firing up through the late evening with continuous lightning. Guess those days are gone.

It seemed like in the 80s and 90s we would get a good storm like that roll through the Triangle at least once a week in summer. I wonder why it changed. Whatever reason, it certainly doesn't happen here anymore.
 
Last summer >>>>>>> this summer for storms

Yup. We had a lot of MCS's last year. Plus convection was a lot more widespread. Although, we paid for it when September rolled around. We went what... almost a full month with any rain and 95-degree heat well into October. Maybe this year will flipflop, we can only hope!
 
Yup. We had a lot of MCS's last year. Plus convection was a lot more widespread. Although, we paid for it when September rolled around. We went what... almost a full month with any rain and 95-degree heat well into October. Maybe this year will flipflop, we can only hope!

Those storms I had right before the switch to Cooler weather last October were super electric, I still wish I had my camera then
 
Yup. We had a lot of MCS's last year. Plus convection was a lot more widespread. Although, we paid for it when September rolled around. We went what... almost a full month with any rain and 95-degree heat well into October. Maybe this year will flipflop, we can only hope!
The end of August to the middle of October were brutal even in my area. From August 28th to October 12th my area had less then a quarter of an inch of rain. Alongside the crazy heat that was a really brutal time period.
 
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