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Pattern January 2017 Discussion

SD link said:
[quote author=JHS link=topic=60.msg3484#msg3484 date=1482780586]
The Euro keeps the cold air well away from AL, GA, NC, SC, and TN right through day 10. Our turn will come in Feb if it does at all.

You sure about that? Looks to me like RDU is below normal 12/30-1/1 then next shot of cold is moving into the region on 1/5
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Don't feed the trolls! He also said it wouldn't rain before January, back in November!
 
I agree GaWx, the GFS has been consistent with that, showing the ideal time frame.

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SD link said:
[quote author=JHS link=topic=60.msg3484#msg3484 date=1482780586]
The Euro keeps the cold air well away from AL, GA, NC, SC, and TN right through day 10. Our turn will come in Feb if it does at all.

You sure about that? Looks to me like RDU is below normal 12/30-1/1 then next shot of cold is moving into the region on 1/5
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We do get a small colder shot on the Euro, but the really cold air does stay back in the plains into the upper midwest and great lakes through day 10.
 
Re: January 2017 Discussion

Just going over the 12z Euro, at hr. 240 it looks similar as today's 12z GFS. The Euro doesn't have a LP at hr 240 while the GFS does over northern AL at hr 216.  Definitely timing issues between the two models. (That's normal with it being more than 5-7 days out). What I'm seeing, we could be dealing with two LPs, one will bring all rain, that low could just be the app runner or a lake cutter and another low coming out from the Plains or possibly coming up from the panhandle of FL. The time frame I'd think this could occur is from 4th-7th. 

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JHS link said:
[quote author=SD link=topic=60.msg3487#msg3487 date=1482781640]
[quote author=JHS link=topic=60.msg3484#msg3484 date=1482780586]
The Euro keeps the cold air well away from AL, GA, NC, SC, and TN right through day 10. Our turn will come in Feb if it does at all.

You sure about that? Looks to me like RDU is below normal 12/30-1/1 then next shot of cold is moving into the region on 1/5
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We do get a small colder shot on the Euro, but the really cold air does stay back in the plains into the upper midwest and great lakes through day 10.
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I was under the impression that the cold would settle in towards the East Coast with blocking over top. 
 
Comparison of the 12z GFS and Euro. GFS hr 216, Euro hr 240.
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JHS link said:
[quote author=SD link=topic=60.msg3487#msg3487 date=1482781640]
[quote author=JHS link=topic=60.msg3484#msg3484 date=1482780586]
The Euro keeps the cold air well away from AL, GA, NC, SC, and TN right through day 10. Our turn will come in Feb if it does at all.

You sure about that? Looks to me like RDU is below normal 12/30-1/1 then next shot of cold is moving into the region on 1/5
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We do get a small colder shot on the Euro, but the really cold air does stay back in the plains into the upper midwest and great lakes through day 10.
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and is moving southeast

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12z EPS mean for day 12, only the areas along the gulf see a moderation thru day 15

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Bless their heart on the other forum! It's like a dysfunctional family over there!
 
Cary_Snow95 link said:
If you guys want a laugh go on the other forum. You could give them all a billion dollars and they would still somehow complain

LOL are they seeing the same models we're seeing?
 
Tarheel1 link said:
Bless their heart on the other forum! It's like a dysfunctional family over there!

It really gets nuts when crazy uncle Mack shows up! :)
 
Rain Cold link said:
[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=60.msg3501#msg3501 date=1482790369]
Bless their heart on the other forum! It's like a dysfunctional family over there!

It really gets nuts when crazy uncle Mack shows up! :)
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I'm still trying to figure out why this D10 cold pattern is so much more credible than the usual D10+ cold patterns we see winter after winter that either don't pan out or greatly moderate by D0. But the only evidence that anyone has been able to show so far is the latest couple of D10 runs.
 
Cary_Snow95 link said:
If you guys want a laugh go on the other forum. You could give them all a billion dollars and they would still somehow complain
What other forum? American Wx?

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Rain Cold link said:
[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=60.msg3501#msg3501 date=1482790369]
Bless their heart on the other forum! It's like a dysfunctional family over there!

It really gets nuts when crazy uncle Mack shows up! :)
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I think uncle Mack is here, too, but not as Uncle Mack.
 
NorthGAWinterWx link said:
[quote author=Cary_Snow95 link=topic=60.msg3498#msg3498 date=1482788311]
If you guys want a laugh go on the other forum. You could give them all a billion dollars and they would still somehow complain
What other forum? American Wx?

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yes
 
January 2017 Discussion

Nothing too exciting till after day 9 right?


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Looks like 18z likely won't be as good with respect to 500mb. ;/
 
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